PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence

[NickHassan]

Hi Gene,

Kept by his true Father and brought up with firm discipline.

Perfectly subject to the Law He was made clean by the washing of the Word.

Heb 12.1-9

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick….Yes i believe Jesus was displind by the laws of God, and his human parents. But even like us he still lacked the ability to direct his steps, “for it is not within a man to direct his stepts”, untill he and we recieved the spirit of God, when God the Father puts his laws in his inward parts, as he does us also. Exactly what had to happen to Jesus has to happen to us also. We are brothers and sisters of him, in the family of God “our” Father. Jesus is the “first born son” in the family, and has that position for ever.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,

And all priests are taken from among men, then anointed and appointed.

Hi Nick,

Are you suggesting Jesus was not appointed from his inception?

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God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

Did you confuse preordaining with anointing and appointing?

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

You say INCEPTION.

Do you mean CONCEPTION?

.

 

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

I meant what I said

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God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

Do you deny his life began with his conception?

 

[NickHassan]

Hi,

Hebrews 7 speaks of Melchizedek being like the Son of God having no beginning or end of life.

Of course Jesus had a beginning of life in Mary and his life, according to the flesh, ended in his death on Calvary.

So this refers to the anointing Spirit of Christ. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Now the Lord is the Spirit

 

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

John the Baptist was conceived in Elizabeth just as all men begin life.

The same word is used for the conception of Jesus in Mary.

 

But you doubt he was conceived?

[GeneBalthrop]

NiCk….I THINK HEB WAS REFERING TO THE FACT MELCHIZEDEK JUST DID NOT HAVE A RECORDED HISTORY FOR US TO KNOW HIS TIME OF EXISTENCE. No “known” beginning or ending of days is recorded. I really dont think it saying he always existed. He was called a man, so that should imply a begining of existence,but perhaps just not recorded.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

[NickHassan]

Hi Gene,

Yes I agree about Melchizedek.

Clever use of unrecorded facts.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

Jesus was conceived.

God and Mary contributed to his being.

Does this fact appear in the teachings you present?

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

I understand you teach that all men preexist.

Is this true?

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,

I understand you teach that all men preexist.

Is this true?

Hi Nick,

No, I don’t teach that, but merely consider
that the bible may be teaching that.

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God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

In the preexistence thread you said

”Yes we all preexisted our physical flesh”

 

I too have let God change my mind on a few things.

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,

In the preexistence thread you said

”Yes we all preexisted our physical flesh”

I too have let God change my mind on a few things.

Hi Nick,

It’s not that my belief has changed, but instead
that there isn’t sufficient proof to convince you.

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God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

Yes.

Test hall things and hold fast to what is good.

But be prepared to cast aside as rubbish what cannot meet the scriptural standards.

[NickHassan]

Hi,

Test ALL things.

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