PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence

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  • #821166
    Ed J
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    Gene presents his opinion as if it were evidence of some kind

    And you Nick present a scenario as if is proof of some kind

    Both are logic fallacies

    #821167
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene and Nick,

    I have real evidence, but you both will probability just ignore it anyways.
    Well, are you up for seeing evidence against what you believe,
    or are you happy staying believing what you believe?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821168
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    You offer Logic as some sort of a test of spiritual things?

    Pathetic human wisdom.

    #821169
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    If your real evidence is just as useless as what you have offered so far then I have no interest in it.

    #821170
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    I guess the PARABLES used by Jesus would fail your scenario logic test.

    Choose today whom you will serve.

    #821171
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    If your real evidence is just as useless as what you have offered so far then I have no interest in it.

    Hi Nick,

    It would probably not be a good idea to call scriptural evidence ‘useless’

    #821172
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    ‘ Eat my flesh and drink my blood ‘ would not reach your human standards either.

    ’Before Abraham was I am ‘ also would fail I expect.

    Greek logic is folly in the eyes of God

     

    #821173
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    The Jewish leaders were responsible for the death of the Son of God on the basis of a wrong perception of scripture.

    Do not follow them.

     

     

    #821174
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Listen carefully but do not hear.

    Look intently but do not perceive.

    #821175
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj…if JESUS WAS THE CHRIST AT BERTH , WHY NO MIRACLES OR EVIDENCE OF IT UNTILL AFTER HE WAS BAPTIZED AT THE JORDAN RIVER.

    GIVE US YOU SO-CALLED “PROOFS”. IS IT SOMETHING LIKE , “BEFORE” ABRAHAM I AM? (I am what?) The christos?, born?, mentioned?, more important? Do you believe Jesus was so ignorant he would not have said ” I WAS ALIVE OR IEXISTED, ARE YOU UNABLE TO KNOW JESUS WAS SPEAKING TO THE JEWS ABOUT HIS IMPORTANCE, THAT HE IS MORE IMPORTANT THE ABRAHAM, BEFORE HIM IN IMPORTANCE M AND THAT THE JEWS NEED TO PLACE HIM AHEAD OF ABRAHAM, AND RELY ON HIM INSTEAD OF ABRAHAM FOR THERE CONNECTION WITH GOD THE FATHER. READ THE CONTEXT AND RELY ON THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO TEACH YOU OF THE TRUTH ABOUT SCRIPTURE.

    SO PRODUCE YOUR SO-CALLED “EVIDENCE” TO SUPPORT YOUR CONCLUSIONS.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #821182
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Why are you suggesting Christ should have done miracles before he was anointed “King” ?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821184
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Your  theory about separate anointings remains yours alone.

    Unless you can find some real evidence.

     

    It is hard to let go of your own ideas.

    #821197
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj….Show us a scripture that says he was anointed twice then. Jesus was the prophesied messiah to come anointed like Moses was, according to Moses. But he like Moses, he was not that messiah untill he was baptized and recieved the Spirit from the Father above, and then he was sent out into the world, by that same spirit to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God with miracles and power from on high.

    Where did you ever get the idea Jesus was a messiah before he was anoint as such. Do believe if a child is born to be a king, he is a king at berth?, Sounds like some of T8’s thinking if you ask me.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #821198
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Kings are born as Prince, not as King

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821199
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Are you not aware that Priests are born ???
    The sons of Zadok were born as Priests

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821200
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj….No priest is a priest untill he takes that office as such, just as a king is not a king untill he actually takes that office even though he was born to be a king. I am not saying that was not their destiny.

    Please answer my question where is there any scripture that says, The man Jesus was anointed as a messiah twice? IF JESUS WERE ALREADY ANOINTED AT BERTH, THEN WHY DO IT AGAIN? Your reasoning seems to be from an idea that Jesus preexist as God or something before he he was born on this earth.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #821201
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    But you are not suggesting that the sons of Zadok did not need to be anointed because of their lineage are you?

    #821218
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    It is the priests that anoint the King

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821220
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    And all priests are taken from among men, then anointed and appointed.

     

     

    #821221
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Edj… changing subject matter, simply show us where Jesus was anointed twice, in scripture, or you simply have no proof, just supositions of your thinking, while Jesus was certainly blessed and kept by God from berth, he was not anointed by God as the Messiah umtill it actually happened. God can bless and keep us, as the prayer says, but even though GOD does that, it dosent mean the person has been anointed by his spirit does it? Paul said he was chosen at his berth, but he was not anointed till he was baptized and anointed later in his life even though that was his destiny. Same applies to us also right?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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