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- February 8, 2018 at 12:02 pm#821166Ed JParticipant
Gene presents his opinion as if it were evidence of some kind
And you Nick present a scenario as if is proof of some kind
Both are logic fallacies
February 8, 2018 at 12:07 pm#821167Ed JParticipantHi Gene and Nick,
I have real evidence, but you both will probability just ignore it anyways.
Well, are you up for seeing evidence against what you believe,
or are you happy staying believing what you believe?____________
God bless
Ed JFebruary 8, 2018 at 12:09 pm#821168NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
You offer Logic as some sort of a test of spiritual things?
Pathetic human wisdom.
February 8, 2018 at 12:18 pm#821169NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
If your real evidence is just as useless as what you have offered so far then I have no interest in it.
February 8, 2018 at 12:30 pm#821170NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
I guess the PARABLES used by Jesus would fail your scenario logic test.
Choose today whom you will serve.
February 8, 2018 at 12:40 pm#821171Ed JParticipantHi Ed,
If your real evidence is just as useless as what you have offered so far then I have no interest in it.
Hi Nick,
It would probably not be a good idea to call scriptural evidence ‘useless’
February 8, 2018 at 12:59 pm#821172NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
‘ Eat my flesh and drink my blood ‘ would not reach your human standards either.
’Before Abraham was I am ‘ also would fail I expect.
Greek logic is folly in the eyes of God
February 8, 2018 at 1:05 pm#821173NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
The Jewish leaders were responsible for the death of the Son of God on the basis of a wrong perception of scripture.
Do not follow them.
February 8, 2018 at 2:40 pm#821174NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Listen carefully but do not hear.
Look intently but do not perceive.
February 9, 2018 at 4:43 am#821175GeneBalthropParticipantEdj…if JESUS WAS THE CHRIST AT BERTH , WHY NO MIRACLES OR EVIDENCE OF IT UNTILL AFTER HE WAS BAPTIZED AT THE JORDAN RIVER.
GIVE US YOU SO-CALLED “PROOFS”. IS IT SOMETHING LIKE , “BEFORE” ABRAHAM I AM? (I am what?) The christos?, born?, mentioned?, more important? Do you believe Jesus was so ignorant he would not have said ” I WAS ALIVE OR IEXISTED, ARE YOU UNABLE TO KNOW JESUS WAS SPEAKING TO THE JEWS ABOUT HIS IMPORTANCE, THAT HE IS MORE IMPORTANT THE ABRAHAM, BEFORE HIM IN IMPORTANCE M AND THAT THE JEWS NEED TO PLACE HIM AHEAD OF ABRAHAM, AND RELY ON HIM INSTEAD OF ABRAHAM FOR THERE CONNECTION WITH GOD THE FATHER. READ THE CONTEXT AND RELY ON THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO TEACH YOU OF THE TRUTH ABOUT SCRIPTURE.
SO PRODUCE YOUR SO-CALLED “EVIDENCE” TO SUPPORT YOUR CONCLUSIONS.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
February 10, 2018 at 11:30 am#821182Ed JParticipantHi Gene,
Why are you suggesting Christ should have done miracles before he was anointed “King” ?
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God bless
Ed JFebruary 10, 2018 at 3:30 pm#821184NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Your theory about separate anointings remains yours alone.
Unless you can find some real evidence.
It is hard to let go of your own ideas.
February 11, 2018 at 9:38 am#821197GeneBalthropParticipantEdj….Show us a scripture that says he was anointed twice then. Jesus was the prophesied messiah to come anointed like Moses was, according to Moses. But he like Moses, he was not that messiah untill he was baptized and recieved the Spirit from the Father above, and then he was sent out into the world, by that same spirit to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God with miracles and power from on high.
Where did you ever get the idea Jesus was a messiah before he was anoint as such. Do believe if a child is born to be a king, he is a king at berth?, Sounds like some of T8’s thinking if you ask me.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
February 11, 2018 at 10:03 pm#821198Ed JParticipantHi Gene,
Kings are born as Prince, not as King
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God bless
Ed JFebruary 11, 2018 at 10:07 pm#821199Ed JParticipantHi Gene,
Are you not aware that Priests are born ???
The sons of Zadok were born as Priests____________
God bless
Ed JFebruary 12, 2018 at 4:25 am#821200GeneBalthropParticipantEdj….No priest is a priest untill he takes that office as such, just as a king is not a king untill he actually takes that office even though he was born to be a king. I am not saying that was not their destiny.
Please answer my question where is there any scripture that says, The man Jesus was anointed as a messiah twice? IF JESUS WERE ALREADY ANOINTED AT BERTH, THEN WHY DO IT AGAIN? Your reasoning seems to be from an idea that Jesus preexist as God or something before he he was born on this earth.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
February 12, 2018 at 8:09 am#821201NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
But you are not suggesting that the sons of Zadok did not need to be anointed because of their lineage are you?
February 12, 2018 at 11:17 am#821218Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
It is the priests that anoint the King
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God bless
Ed JFebruary 12, 2018 at 11:27 am#821220NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
And all priests are taken from among men, then anointed and appointed.
February 12, 2018 at 1:39 pm#821221GeneBalthropParticipantEdj… changing subject matter, simply show us where Jesus was anointed twice, in scripture, or you simply have no proof, just supositions of your thinking, while Jesus was certainly blessed and kept by God from berth, he was not anointed by God as the Messiah umtill it actually happened. God can bless and keep us, as the prayer says, but even though GOD does that, it dosent mean the person has been anointed by his spirit does it? Paul said he was chosen at his berth, but he was not anointed till he was baptized and anointed later in his life even though that was his destiny. Same applies to us also right?
Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene
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