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- March 29, 2016 at 11:39 am#811018Ed JParticipant
NICK is right the man JESUS, IS NOT HIMSELF THE CHRISTO’S, HE IS THE MAN THAT HAS THE CHRISTO’S OR ANOINTING SPIRIT IN HIM.
Hi Gene,
Your Jesus was just an ordinary fellow nullifies Psalms 49:7
“None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him”
…but the Scripture CANNOT be broken!
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God bless
Ed JMarch 29, 2016 at 1:52 pm#811026NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
God is the Saviour and Redeemer.
Surely you know this?
1tim 4.10
March 29, 2016 at 2:15 pm#811027NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
Is 43
But now, thus says the Lord, your creator, O Jacob, and He Who formed thee O Israel,
‘Do not fear for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name ;you are Mine’
March 29, 2016 at 2:18 pm#811028NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
Is 43.14
‘Thus says the Lord your Redeemer..’
Is 44.24’Thus says the Lord, your redeemer..”
Did you think man could redeem?
March 29, 2016 at 4:51 pm#811036Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
“None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother” (Psalms 49:7)
…and the Scripture CANNOT be broken!“Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law” (Gal 3:13)
…seems Micah 5:2 and Gal 3:13 don’t belong in your bibleMy understanding is based on all of Scripture, not just selected verses.
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God bless
Ed JMarch 29, 2016 at 4:55 pm#811037NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
You really do not know God is the redeemer?
All of scripture interpreted your way do you mean?
March 29, 2016 at 5:06 pm#811038NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
2Peter 1
And so we have the PROPHETIC WORD made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all that no PROPHECY OF SCRIPTURE is a matter of one’s own INTERPRETATION, for no PROPHECY was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
Wait for the bright morning star before putting up your own ideas.
The Star is the Spirit of Christ.
rev 22.16
I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star.
Then this will apply to you
Is 60
Arise, shine , for your light has come, and the glory of the lord has risen upon you.
March 29, 2016 at 5:39 pm#811046Ed JParticipantHi ED,
All of scripture interpreted your way do you mean?
Hi Nick,
For me, Scripture is certainly not interpreted your way 🙂
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God bless
Ed JMarch 30, 2016 at 3:03 am#811053GeneBalthropParticipantEDJ….GOD THE FATHER IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL HIS CREATION, JESUS himself is not our savior, he was GOD THE FATHERS SACRIFICEFOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD. JUST AS THE LAMBS SACRIFICED by the ISRAELITES COULD NOT SAVE them either, but was an appeal to God the Father for forgiveness ,”for without the SHEDDING of “BLOOD”, there is “no” forgiveness of sin”.
You have replaced THE WORK OF THE FATHER, WITH JESUS, you do not see that GOD THE FATHER WAS “IN” JESUS BY THE CHRISTO’S, REDEMMING THE WORLD UNTO “HIMSELF”. YOUR FALSE THINKING IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE TRUTH OF GOD, WHO’S SPIRIT WAS AND IS THE CHRISTO’S.
MUCH LIKE YOU NUMBERING SYSTEM, IS A fragmentation or your own mind, so is your understanding of Jesus actuallhimself being the savior of the world, you ROB GOD THE FATHER and give it to a man, Jesus,you simply donot see the work of God the Father “IN” JESUS A SON OF MAN.
YOU do not even believe Jesus own words, ” the son of man can do “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF, the father who is “IN” him “HE” does the “WORKS”.
YOU PRIDE YOURSELF ON PUTTING NUMBERS TOGETHER, BUT UNABLE TO PUT GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS’ WORDS TOGETHER,it seems.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
March 30, 2016 at 6:38 am#811059Danny DabbsParticipantGene Balthrop wrote “JESUS himself is not our savior”
What???
John 4:42 And they told the woman, “We no longer believe because of what you said, for we have heard for ourselves and know that this really is the Savior of the world.”
May God grant you repentance!!!
Danny
March 30, 2016 at 7:06 am#811060NickHassanParticipantHi Danny,
Yes.
God saves.
Through Jesus Christ.
March 30, 2016 at 7:15 am#811061Danny DabbsParticipantHi Nick,
The Bible clearly says many many times that the Lord Jesus Christ IS our Savior!
Danny
March 30, 2016 at 7:36 am#811062Danny DabbsParticipantActs 4:11-12 This Jesus is the stone rejected by you builders, which has become the cornerstone. There is salvation in NO ONE ELSE, for there is no other name under heaven given to people, and we must be saved by it.”
Goodbye………………………………………………….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Danny Dabbs
March 30, 2016 at 8:48 am#811063NickHassanParticipantHi Danny,
yes
God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself.
Surely you know that the work of Jesus was done by the Father in him?
He said so.
Hopefully it is true of you too what Paul said in Phil
“God is at work in you to will and to do”
March 30, 2016 at 9:13 am#811066Danny DabbsParticipantHi Nick,
That’s not the point at all. Are you too denying that Jesus is the Savior??
Danny
March 30, 2016 at 9:35 am#811067NickHassanParticipantHi Danny,
No way.
By the authority and power of God he is the saviour.
March 30, 2016 at 10:14 am#811069NickHassanParticipantHi Danny,
His name says it all
YASHUA
God saves
March 30, 2016 at 10:20 am#811070NickHassanParticipantHi Danny,
Acts 4.8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers and elders of the people, if we are on trial today for a benefit done to a sick man, as to how this man has been made well, let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by this name this man stands here before you in good health. “He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone. “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
There is no other name UNDER HEAVEN
March 30, 2016 at 10:20 am#811071Danny DabbsParticipantHi Nick,
She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because HE will save his people from their sins.” Matthew 1:21
Thanks. Yes, Jesus Christ is God. No, He is not the Father. He is the Son of God.
Danny
March 30, 2016 at 10:22 am#811072NickHassanParticipantHi Danny,
Did you think he could do it by himself.
He could do nothing by himself he told us.
God is all but he uses chosen vessels for his tasks and there is none greater than Jesus Christ
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