Preexistence

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  • #811018
    Ed J
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    NICK is right the man JESUS, IS NOT HIMSELF THE CHRISTO’S, HE IS THE MAN THAT HAS THE CHRISTO’S OR ANOINTING SPIRIT IN HIM.

    Hi Gene,

    Your Jesus was just an ordinary fellow nullifies Psalms 49:7

    “None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him”

    …but the Scripture CANNOT be broken!

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811026
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    God is the Saviour and Redeemer.

    Surely you know this?

    1tim 4.10

    #811027
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    Is 43

    But now, thus says the Lord, your creator, O Jacob, and He Who formed thee O Israel,

    ‘Do not fear for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name ;you are Mine’

    #811028
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Is 43.14

    ‘Thus says the Lord your Redeemer..’

    Is 44.24’Thus says the Lord, your redeemer..”

     

    Did you think man could redeem?

    #811036
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    “None of them(all ye inhabitants of the world) can by any means redeem his brother” (Psalms 49:7)
    …and the Scripture CANNOT be broken!

    “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law” (Gal 3:13)
    …seems Micah 5:2 and Gal 3:13 don’t belong in your bible

    My understanding is based on all of Scripture, not just selected verses.

    ___________________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #811037
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    You really do not know God is the redeemer?

    All of scripture interpreted your way do you mean?

     

    #811038
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    2Peter 1

    And so we have the PROPHETIC WORD made more sure, to which you do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place until the day dawns and the morning star arises in your hearts. But know this first of all that no PROPHECY OF SCRIPTURE is a matter of one’s own INTERPRETATION, for no PROPHECY was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

     

    Wait for the bright morning star before putting up your own ideas.

    The Star is the Spirit of Christ.

    rev 22.16

    I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star.

    Then this will apply to you

    Is 60

    Arise, shine , for your light has come, and the glory of the lord has risen upon you.

    #811046
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    All of scripture interpreted your way do you mean?

    Hi Nick,

    For me, Scripture is certainly not interpreted your way 🙂

    __________________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #811053
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    EDJ….GOD THE FATHER IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL HIS CREATION, JESUS himself is not our savior, he was GOD THE FATHERS SACRIFICEFOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD. JUST AS THE LAMBS SACRIFICED by the ISRAELITES COULD NOT SAVE them either, but was an appeal to God the Father for forgiveness ,”for without the SHEDDING of “BLOOD”, there is “no” forgiveness of sin”.

    You have replaced THE WORK OF THE FATHER, WITH JESUS, you do not see that GOD THE FATHER WAS “IN” JESUS BY THE CHRISTO’S, REDEMMING THE WORLD UNTO “HIMSELF”. YOUR FALSE THINKING IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE TRUTH OF GOD, WHO’S SPIRIT WAS AND IS THE CHRISTO’S.

    MUCH LIKE YOU NUMBERING SYSTEM, IS A fragmentation or your own mind, so is your understanding of Jesus actuallhimself being the savior of the world, you ROB GOD THE FATHER and give it to a man, Jesus,you simply donot see the work of God the Father “IN” JESUS A SON OF MAN.

    YOU do not even believe Jesus own words, ” the son of man can do “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF, the father who is “IN” him “HE” does the “WORKS”.

    YOU PRIDE YOURSELF ON PUTTING NUMBERS TOGETHER, BUT UNABLE TO PUT GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS’ WORDS TOGETHER,it seems.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #811059
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Gene Balthrop wrote “JESUS himself is not our savior”

    What???

    John 4:42 And they told the woman, “We no longer believe because of what you said, for we have heard for ourselves and know that this really is the Savior of the world.”

    May God grant you repentance!!!

    Danny

    #811060
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Danny,

    Yes.

    God saves.

    Through Jesus Christ.

    #811061
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    The Bible clearly says many many times that the Lord Jesus Christ IS our Savior!

    Danny

    #811062
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Acts 4:11-12 This Jesus is the stone rejected by you builders, which has become the cornerstone. There is salvation in NO ONE ELSE, for there is no other name under heaven given to people, and we must be saved by it.”

    Goodbye………………………………………………….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Danny Dabbs

    #811063
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Danny,

    yes

    God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself.

    Surely you know that the work of Jesus was done by the Father in him?

    He said so.

     

    Hopefully it is true of you too what Paul said in Phil

    “God is at work in you to will and to do”

     

    #811066
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    That’s not the point at all. Are you too denying that Jesus is the Savior??

    Danny

    #811067
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Danny,

    No way.

    By the authority and power of God he is the saviour.

    #811069
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Danny,

    His name says it all

    YASHUA

    God saves

    #811070
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Danny,

     

     Acts 4.8Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers and elders of the people, if we are on trial today for a benefit done to a sick man, as to how this man has been made well, let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by this name this man stands here before you in good health. “He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone. “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”

     

    There is no other name UNDER HEAVEN

    #811071
    Danny Dabbs
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because HE will save his people from their sins.” Matthew 1:21

    Thanks. Yes, Jesus Christ is God. No, He is not the Father. He is the Son of God.

    Danny

    #811072
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Danny,

    Did you think he could do it by himself.

    He could do nothing by himself he told us.

     

    God is all but he uses chosen vessels for his tasks and there is none greater than Jesus Christ

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