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hi gene
how can i produce something your spirit can not understand
all the scriptures in the bible are not enough ,there is no problem with me but with you not able to see with the eyes of the spirit,your blindness is your focus on the wrong things, but this is your choice not mine.Terraraccia………….Just produce the scriptures to support you conclusions, and we will see if i can or can not understand them, with the spirit GOD has given me. So far i have seen no scriptures that you have produced that i do not understand , even though they are only a few you do produce. IMO
hi gene
Ge 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Ge 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
do you understand ??
Terraricca……….So whats your point, SO GOD who is composed of seven SPIRITS created the world It also says LET (US) CREATE MAN IN (OUR) image. SO who was the (US) AND THE (OUR) MENTIONED THERE. , notice it did not say in (MY) Image but (OUR) image. Think about that for while. Maybe your spirit (intellect) can't understand that. Revelations tells us there are seven (SPIRITS) of GOD. YOur argument is with scriptures not me.
gene
i do not argue with the scriptures it is your interpretation of them that i find out of it.
Moses led them as the shepherd of his flock.
Where is the One who put
his Holy Spirit among them?
Isa 63:12 He used his glorious and powerful arm
to help Moses.
He parted the waters of the sea in front of themPOWERFULL ARM
the spirit is POWER
hi gene
Ps 119:125 I serve you. Help me to understand what is right.
Then I will understand your covenant laws.
Ps 119:126 LORD, it’s time for you to act.
People are breaking your law.
Ps 119:127 I love your commands more than gold.
I love them more than pure gold.
Ps 119:128 I consider all of your rules to be right.
So I hate every path that sinners take.
Pe
Ps 119:129 Your covenant laws are wonderful.
So I obey them.
Ps 119:130 When your words are made clear, they bring light.
They bring understanding to childish peoplePs 50:16 But here is what God says to sinful people.
“What right do you have to speak the words of my laws?
How dare you speak the words of my covenant!
Ps 50:17 You hate my teaching.
You turn your back on what I say.
Ps 50:18 When you see a thief, you join him.
You make friends with those who commit adultery.
Ps 50:19 You use your mouth to speak evil.
You use your tongue to spread lies.
Ps 50:20 You always speak against your brother.
You always tell lies about your own mother’s son.
Ps 50:21 You have done those things, and I kept silent.
So you thought I was just like you.
But now I’m going to correct you.
I will bring charges against you.
Ps 50:22 “You who forget God, think about this.
If you don’t, I will tear you to pieces.
No one will be able to save youPs 119:144 Your covenant laws are always right.
Help me to understand them. Then I will live.
Qoph
Ps 119:145 LORD, I call out to you with all my heart.
Answer me, and I will obey your orders.
Ps 119:146 I call out to you.
Save me, and I will keep your covenant laws.
Ps 119:147 I get up before the sun rises. I cry out for help.
I’ve put my hope in your word.
Ps 119:148 My eyes stay open all night long.
I spend my time thinking about your promisesthis is my understanding. is it yours
???Quote (Gene @ Jan. 30 2010,14:58) Terraricca……….So whats your point, SO GOD who is composed of seven SPIRITS created the world It also says LET (US) CREATE MAN IN (OUR) image. SO who was the (US) AND THE (OUR) MENTIONED THERE. , notice it did not say in (MY) Image but (OUR) image. Think about that for while. Maybe your spirit (intellect) can't understand that. Revelations tells us there are seven (SPIRITS) of GOD. YOur argument is with scriptures not me.
G,
God is one and His Spirit is one.
Your seven spirit god is not scriptural.
You get confused by the seven spirits in front of God's throne.gene
you know that the seven spirits could be also angels,in high rank like just above cherubim
it s a thought
Nick………GOD is another word for , POWERS it is a UNI-PLURAL WORD, There are seven (distinct) INTELLECTS that are connected with POWER and these Powers make UP (ONE) BODY of POWERS. Much like the Church has many members but is considered (ONE) Body. While scripture say the LORD or YHWH, OUR GOD IS ONE LORD OR YHWH. That is to say the LORD our GOD or POWERS is ONE LORD. The LORD controls the Seven Spirits or intellects they are from HIM and they go to and fro throughout the whole earth, The Seven (SPIRIT) are eyes (IN) Jesus With POWER (HORNS)and that is what is going to set up the KINGDOM of GOD. The seven Spirits are before the Throne of GOD because they are the POWER of HIS Throne. You seem to think SPIRITS are ANGLE BEINGS, But there is no scripture that say angles (ARE) Spirit Beings, SPIRIT (INTELLECTS) are what is (IN) Beings, Spirit give thought to Beings. When People speak they express those thoughts or Spirits. The is how we can try the SPIRITS to see if they are of GOD , HOW”, by there Words , because their Words (ARE) the expression of their SPIRITS IN Them.
Quote (Gene @ Jan. 19 2010,04:23) Terraricca……….I don't recall you answering that question, please answer it again for us, WHAT IS SPIRIT< if Not THE INTELLECT of GOD.
GeneWhat is Paul referring to in this scripture?
1Cr 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
What is this spirit in man?
And then, what is Paul saying in this scripture?Phl 2:5 ¶ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
What mind was in Christ, that should also be in us?
So, what is the difference between mind and spirit in us?Georg
Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2010,22:57) georg what is man spirit? it is not is body;so what is it ?
terrariccaThe spirit in man, that Paul is talking about, is our “mind”.
God's Holy Spirit is his Mind, this is the mind that Paul said was in Christ Jesus, and should be in us. It is our mind/spirit that sets us apart from animals, this is how God communicates with us, through our minds.Georg
georg
the spirit of man is yes is mind but it is also is will ,is intentions ,is loves,is motives,
now the spirit of God is the same or so;it is his will,is intentions,his motives,and is love,and power.all at the highest possible level.
this is why men can not understand the spirit of God,
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 16 2010,21:49) Quote (Gene @ Jan. 19 2010,04:23) Terraricca……….I don't recall you answering that question, please answer it again for us, WHAT IS SPIRIT< if Not THE INTELLECT of GOD.
GeneWhat is Paul referring to in this scripture?
1Cr 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
What is this spirit in man?
And then, what is Paul saying in this scripture?Phl 2:5 ¶ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
What mind was in Christ, that should also be in us?
So, what is the difference between mind and spirit in us?Georg
Georg………That is man (INTELLECT) that is in HIM, Now if that intellect (spirit) be of GOD then that man will think like GOD does. if it is of the world then he will think like the world does, But either way it is all Spirit (intellects) that is causing Him to produce his fruits in his life. We are animated by our Intellects in our minds if of GOD it is Godly if of the world it is worldly. GOD can easly Change anyone He choses to , by simply changing His or Her thinking. THO YOUR SINS BE AS SCARLET, YET THEY SHALL BE AS WHITE AS WOOL. Ir is not a problem for GOD the FATHER to Change US by simply removing wrong Spirit (unclean Spirit) and giving Us clean Spirit. It is all a CREATION PROCESS. Man Hates the idea of GOD'S total Control over everything , because He wants to be a GOD HIMSELF. He has a (adversarial) or satanic spirit in him and refuses to submit to the will of GOD.GOD said he looked for (ONE) righteous Man and could FIND NON, Therefore the took it upon HIS Own arm to bring salvation. We are CREATED UNTO GOOD WORKS. Man hates this they want their OWN non existent, So-Called “FREE WILLS” to be in Charge of their salvation. IMO
GENE
1Co 2:10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given usanswer)Paul explains to is christian brothers that God has given them freely the spirit (the knowledge of his purpose)so that, that spirit is now in them and now they do not have the spirit of carnal men, but the spirit of the knowledge of God according to his will regarding men.and that they should walk accordingly.
Phil 2:4 Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.
Phil 2:5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,here Paul says to his brothers that selfishness is to be avoided and give Christ as a example how Christ empty himself ,and recommend that same attitude in us as true Christians.
Terraricca…..That is exactly my point , it is GOD that Works in us Both to WILL and do (HIS) GOOD PLEASURE. THAT IS NOT OUR SO-CALLED “FREE' WILLS ART WORK, BUT GOD'S WILL, WORKING BY HIS GRACE (IN) US. SO WHERE IS MAN FALSELY CALLED “free will” there. So why do you support a false teaching as a FREE WILL, when in fact NON exists.
G,
If you are reborn of the Spirit and let the Spirit lead you then God is at work in you to will and to do.
You are given right to become sons and daughters of God.[jn1.12]But submitting to the Word and the Spirit is not what most of the bridesmaids do.
Man and his foolish intellect still want to rule.gene
the verses i quote tell us of what the power of the knowledge would do to us by absorbing it and put it to practice,
and by doing constant improvement in the knowledge of God (scriptures)we would come to the understanding of what God as hidden in the scriptures and now could be available through that knowledge
and understanding since this was the same teaching that Christ received it should bring us to the same attitude of Christ,there is one sentence what Christ has repeated many times ,is “the words i say are my fathers not mine”
“i tell you what my father tells me to say”……”i tell you the truth”..it as to be understood than from the day Christ was baptize until he died all the things he said and did
was his fathers, if you can understand that let me know;
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