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Hi BD,
If I were to ask how tall a wall is – you describing what walls are typically made from
instead of telling me how tall the wall is would not be answering my question.
Did you somehow think your response to my question was an answer?No, it instead was a speech.
the expression of or the ability to express thoughts and feelings by articulate sounds.I understand what you’re saying Miia about watchtower or Jw’s but he’s not claiming his teaching is from them but from the bible.So therefore I don’t care if he is one or not.They may have some false teachings but that doesn’t make everything they think or teach necessarily wrong.Nor am I saying his teaching on John 1:1 is correct either. As you know it’s all disputable.
A prophet may say you can’t know God apart from my teaching,but Jesus claims to be more than a prophet,greater than Moses or Solomon or even the temple.Jesus says such things as Matt 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
How can a prophet say such things unless he’s claiming to be divine himself? The point being that he is the Son of God- a God man.And to believe on him or receive him is to receive God.As the image of God he could be considered a lesser god but as the Son of God he’s still a god or God nonetheless.To have the Son of God is to have God himself. What other sense can be made of Jn 12 :44,45 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.I can claim to be a son of God,but can I claim that to believe in me is to believe in God?
Hi BD,
If I were to ask how tall a wall is – you describing what walls are typically made from
instead of telling me how tall the wall is would not be answering my question.
Did you somehow think your response to my question was an answer?No, it instead was a speech.
the expression of or the ability to express thoughts and feelings by articulate sounds.There is no god but GOD!
Hi Andrew,
Greater than all the prophets
but a prophet nonetheless. acts 3.22f
and prophets move in the Spirit of Christ 1 peter 1 10f
EdJ
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(1) “Do you feel Jesus is ‘a god’?”
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(2) Do you think he is a God-appointed king?Hi Tigger,
1) No
2) Jesus is God’s anointed Leader
(that is why one is smeared with oil)________________
God bless
Ed JA prophet may say you can’t know God apart from my teaching,but Jesus claims to be more than a prophet,greater than Moses or Solomon or even the temple.Jesus says such things as Matt 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
How can a prophet say such things unless he’s claiming to be divine himself? The point being that he is the Son of God- a God man.And to believe on him or receive him is to receive God.As the image of God he could be considered a lesser god but as the Son of God he’s still a god or God nonetheless.To have the Son of God is to have God himself. What other sense can be made of Jn 12 :44,45 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.hi Andrew,
sometimes people face a spiritual battle between what they once believed or had; the time after when they faced nothingness; and what they have been brought back to. the nothingness can creep back in often unawares, including the attached false views. often they are being torn between loyalty to others and Christ. what appears to be doubt or error may instead be a part of an individuals spiritual battle. i’m sure the solution is to surrender all to Christ, and allow him to steer the ship.
Andrew……Jer 31:34……and they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying know the LORD: FOR THEY SHALL ALL KNOW ME, FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST OF THEM, SAYS THE LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
JESUS never thought he was a GOD OF ANY KIND SO WHY SHOULD WE?, JESUS PLAINLY SAID , “FOR YOU ARE THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD. That means all other so1called GODS ARE “FALSE” GODS. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD “ONLY” MEANS, IT means there is no other GODS OF ANYKIND. MAKING Jsus i to your object of worship is commiting IDOLATRY. No IDOLATAR’S HAVE ANY TRUE RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS OR GOD THE FATHER. WE NEED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT JESUS DID AND TOLD US TO DO, IN ORDER TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME RELATIONSHIP AS HE HAS WITH THE FATHER, WHO IS THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD. Jesus, A man, was sent and give us an example of how to have a proper relationship with the Father. It is exactly the same as his is and was. You are preaching CHRIST TO THE EXCLUSION OF THE FATHER and don’t even realize it. IMO
You teachings SEPERATE JESUS FROM OUR PERSONAL IDENITY WITH HIM, IT IS EXACTLY WHAT SATAN WANT YOU TO BELIEVE, THAT JESUS IS A GOD, HE FULL WELL KNOWS THAT GOD THE FATHER WILL NOT EXCEPT ANY IDOLATAR’S. There is “ONLY” ONE TRUE GOD, and one mediator between that GOD, an MAN, the “MAN” Jesus Christ.
We are to honor and bow our knee to him, BUT, “TO THE GLORY OF GOD”, YOU AND SOME OTHERS HERE, MAKE IT AS IF THE FATHER HAD AND HAS NO PART OF JESUS ACCOMPLISHMENTS. God did not place Jesus over us for us to worship him and make him our GOD OF ANY KIND.
peace and love to you and yours. ………………..gene
Hi Andrew,
Jesus was greater than the other prophets because he was given the Spirit without measure.
The Son of God was as God just as Joseph was as the pharaoh.
JN1
IN HIM was life, and the life was the light of men.
Dear Miia,
I certainly understand the spiritual battle you speak of.And wondering just what is right? there are so many differing views and Christians have always damned each other which I no longer want to do.I don’t like being that way.If Christ is a judge then I’ll let him do that job.And I honestly don’t think we are judged for our religious doctrines.But if to have Christ is to have God then I seek Christ.Paul counted all dung-meaning his Judaism too,for Christ who became his main hope.
I’m thankful for my doubts and study since I’ve come to think for myself.It’s like the more I seek God now the more God finds me and of course it’s subjective to me-my own feelings.
Gene if Jer 31:34 is now true then why are there preachers of any kind in the world today? If everyone knows the Lord then why all the preaching to know my version of the Lord?
Jesus never thought he was a god? yet he supposedly made all kinds of fantastic claims? He said ye believe in God,believe also in me. Just what does that mean except to believe in me the same way you believe in God.He even claimed he could answer prayers in St John’s gospel.
But I certainly haven’t made any claims that Jesus didn’t claim any need of his Father. We can identify with Jesus as a mere sinful man or as the son of God-a God man.I can identify with him both ways to be honest.
And God bless you and yours my brother!
Hi Andrew.
there are so many differing views and Christians have always damned each other
the best thing is to not care what others do. in the end we will stand to answer alone.
which I no longer want to do.
me neither, (though i’m working on some recent denominational bugbears, have to pray about that)
And I honestly don’t think we are judged for our religious doctrines.
neither.
But if to have Christ is to have God then I seek Christ.
me too.
I’m thankful for my doubts and study since I’ve come to think for myself.It’s like the more I seek God now the more God finds me and of course it’s subjective to me-my own feelings.
I wish you well in your seeking (: take your time and listen for what the spirit has to say.
Andrew…..I NEVER SAID THAT THE SCRIPTURE I QUOTED IN Jer 31:34 was now true, my point was, GOD HIMSELF is perfectly able to make himself known to everyone in time.
Secondly when JESUS SAID YOU BELIEVE IN GOD BELIEVE IN ME ALSO, HE HAD SAID OVER AND OVER THAT GOD THE FATHER WAS “IN” HIM, thats the part you are not percieving, JESUS SAID plainly he could do “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF, but the FATHER WHO WAS “IN” “HE” DID THE WORKS, BUT YOU GIVE JESUS THE CREDIT FOR DOING ALL THE WORKS, you are glorifyibg him as a GOD DOING THE WORKS, AND NOT SEEING HIM as purely A HUMAN BEING, WHO GOD THE FATHER WAS DWELLING “IN”. You are ineffect robbing GOD, AND PAYING JESUS, something Jesus never did. You do not believe what JESUS SAID ABOUT HIMSELF, NOT BEING ABLE TO DO “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF.
ANDREW I BELIEVE YOU HAVE YOUR PRIORITIES MIXED UP, Jesus always gave GOD THE FATHER THE GLORY FOR EVERYTHING , SAYING “I HAVE GLORIFIED “YOU” ON THE EARTH.
Jesus is not a GOD-MAN, AS YOU SUPPOSE HE IS, NOT ONE SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT, WHAT SCRIPTURE SAYS IS THIS, “There is “ONE” GOD and “ONE” mediator between God and “MAN”, the “MAN” JESUS CHRIST.” Why are you rejecting this truth? Trying to make Jesus into a GOD IS “IDOLATRY “, OUR GOD HAS SAID HE WAS THE “ONLY” GOD, AND THAT WE SHOULD HAVE “NO” OTHER GOD BESIDES HIM. Why are you breaking his commandments and have no fear of the consequences? If you believe Jesus as you say you do, then believe what he said ,”for thou art the “only” true GOD”, AND AGAIN “tell them i am going to my Father and your Father , my GOD and your GOD.”. Jesus has a GOD AND it is not him, it is the same GOD all true believers have. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ………………..gene
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