Non-trinity believing church?

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  • #346242
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (t8 @ June 02 2013,18:10)

    Quote (carmel @ June 03 2013,11:03)
    SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE TRINITY?


    It's not in the Bible or even the books that didn't make it into the Bible.


    Plus, the trinity calls for the Son OF God to BE the very God he is the Son OF. And that is nothing but nonsense. Jesus either IS God, or he is the SON OF God. He can't be both.

    And Jesus himself only claimed to be one of those two things. I'll continue to believe Jesus.

    #346245
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    Yeah. I'm with Jesus and yourself on that one.

    :)

    #346279
    2besee
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    Quote (jb2u @ June 03 2013,06:13)

    Quote (2besee @ May 31 2013,19:14)
    Jb2u,
    Have you found a church yet or you still looking?


    That would be a NO to both.

    I have not found a church..and, I'm not still looking.

    I have accepted the fact that the “church system” has been influenced by a corruption of God's word. I am still amazed at how many “intelligent” Christians/pastors/theologians out there that have been fooled by this doctrine of the trinity. I watch these people on t.v. and look up the verses they say “prove” that Jesus is God. I find myself sitting there shaking my head in disbelief. How can they see, “Jesus is God” in this verse?? At times, I see verses that would appear to allude to Jesus is God, but when you read the context around that verse it becomes clear. But…I guess people will see what they want to see!!


    JB2u,
    I spent years searching for a church and the closest I got was the Seventh Day Adventists. I went for months as a guest, and I have to admit that I feel respect for them till this day, but I stopped going because something was not right for me. I do not see the point going, when there are important things which I disagree with. What? Do I just go so that I have contacts within Christianity and friends? Or perhaps some type of protection in these troubling times? Oh, I don't know what to do sometimes.

    I chose the Adventists because my biggest bugbear was eternal torment, and as far as I was concerned, why listen to a preacher who obviously does not KNOW God. So, I chose the Adventists because they do not believe in eternal conscious torment either.
    I know the JWs also do not believe in eternal torment, but no way will I join their church, not even to visit, because to me they follow the doctrines of man, and they DENY the POWER of God by denying healing and everything else. No way.
    So, that's how I indeed up going to the Adventist church and to make a long story short, I was impressed by their spirituality, I love them,  but I don't go anymore due to what I disagree with.

    With trinity, I feel as you do. So much talk these days about Jesus who they say is God, but no mention hardly of the Father. Adventists actually weren't that bad in that respect as they DID mention  and pray to the Father, but MOST denominations are in the category of forgetting the Father, it seems.

    I don't know, JB.  I just feel so alone these days and I miss an old friend who I used to talk to in private, nothing beats that.

    #346292
    Ed J
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    Quote (2besee @ June 03 2013,22:44)
    JB2u,
    I spent years searching for a church and the closest I got was the Seventh Day Adventists. I went for months as a guest, and I have to admit that I feel respect for them till this day, but I stopped going because something was not right for me. I do not see the point going, when there are important things which I disagree with. What? Do I just go so that I have contacts within Christianity and friends? Or perhaps some type of protection in these troubling times? Oh, I don't know what to do sometimes.


    Hi 2Besee,

    Can I ask what those important things which you disagree with them are?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #346309
    carmel
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    t8,June wrote:

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    It's not in the Bible or even the books that didn't make it into the Bible.

    t8,

    IN THE BIBLE THERE IS MORE THEN ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT GOD IS BOTH ONE AND A TRIUNE!

    ALSO SIMILARLY  THERE IS MORE THEN ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT GOD HAS A FEMININE SIDE, ALTHOUGH THERE'S NOT A CLEAR STATEMENT OF IT!

    HEREUNDER IS ONE OF MANY VERSES WHICH CONFIRMS THIS, WHERE GOD CONFIRMS THAT HAS A WOMB! METAPHORICALLY! SINCE HE IS A SPIRIT BUT IT PROVES THAT GOD HAS A FEMININE SIDE WITHIN HIM, APART THAT HE HAS A FATHER SIDE, AND ALSO A SON SIDE!

    WHICH MAKES THE TRIUNE GOD MORE EVIDENT!

    Isaiah 46:3Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, all the remnant of the house of Israel, who are carried by my bowels, are borne up by MY WOMB

    HE IS A SPIRIT FOR SURE , AND THAT'S ALL WE KNOW ABOUT HIM, AS JESUS CONFIRMS, BUT THE REST ONLY HE KNOWS ABOUT!

    NOW REFLECT ON THIS:

    Genesis 2:24Wherefore a MAN  shall leave FATHER and MOTHER, and shall cleave to his WIFE: and they shall be two in one flesh.  THE HOLY SPIRIT and THE SON

    THE ABOVE IS DEFINITELY A REFERENCE TO THE SON OF GOD AS A SPIRIT, WHEN HE LEFT THE FATHER ,( IN HEAVEN) AND MOTHER, (IN EARTH) AND SHALL CLEAVE TO HIS WIFE, OBVIOUS THE BRIDE ,THE CHURCH!  AND ON THE LAST DAY, THEY SHALL BE TWO IN ONE FLESH  IN  THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB!

    SO:

    THE FATHER ASPECT:  IN HEAVEN , SPIRIT
         
    THE MOTHER ASPECT : THE HOLY SPIRIT , WITHIN THE SON’S SPIRIT(THE WORD, THE TRIUNE GOD  ):   OUR  CREATION  MATTER ( MOTHER EARTH) COMPOSED OF SOULS AND FLESH BODIES RESPECTIVELY!
           
    THE SON ASPECT :     THE HOLY SPIRIT, “THE WORD”, THE TRIUNE GOD, ( THE SON OF GOD) MADE FLESH IN JESUS  FLESH BODY THE SON OF MAN EX SON’S SPIRIT

    SO THE FEMININE/ MOTHER SIDE AND THE SON SIDE OF GOD BECAME ONE SPIRITUAL FLESH BODY, ON RESURRECTION, AND ON THE LAST DAY THE FATHER SIDE WOULD BE ALL IN ALL.

    Rev:19:7Let us be glad and rejoice, and give glory to him; for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his  WIFE hath prepared herself

    NOW ANSWER!

    IS THERE A FEMININE SIDE OF GOD?

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #346319
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    Quote (carmel @ June 04 2013,10:01)
    IN THE BIBLE THERE IS MORE THEN ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT GOD IS BOTH ONE AND A TRIUNE!


    Actually there isn't.

    In this page, this so-called evidence is exposed as false.

    https://heavennet.net/writings/supporting-the-trinity-doctrine/

    #346320
    Proclaimer
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    Charles your above post is full of assumptions and teachings that you have collected but are not scriptural.

    It is easy to dispel your evidence.

    #346321
    Proclaimer
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    On the question about what Church to attend, what about the Body of Christ?

    Scripture teaches us that the Church is the body. There is no mention of denominations in scripture, so why is that even a consideration?

    Why not fellowship as they did in the first century. i.e., with other believers where ever and whenever.

    Why should your faith require a man-made system. That is what the world is, a system.

    The Body of Christ is much greater than any system that this world can offer you.

    #346325
    2besee
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:03)

    Quote (2besee @ June 03 2013,22:44)
    JB2u,
    I spent years searching for a church and the closest I got was the Seventh Day Adventists. I went for months as a guest, and I have to admit that I feel respect for them till this day, but I stopped going because something was not right for me. I do not see the point going, when there are important things which I disagree with. What? Do I just go so that I have contacts within Christianity and friends? Or perhaps some type of protection in these troubling times? Oh, I don't know what to do sometimes.


    Hi 2Besee,

    Can I ask what those important things which you disagree with them are?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,
    Mainly their focus on the sabbath, but there are other things.  I guess it's just the whole once a week routine.

    #346331
    Ed J
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    Quote (2besee @ June 04 2013,09:18)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,03:03)

    Quote (2besee @ June 03 2013,22:44)
    JB2u,
    I spent years searching for a church and the closest I got was the Seventh Day Adventists. I went for months as a guest, and I have to admit that I feel respect for them till this day, but I stopped going because something was not right for me. I do not see the point going, when there are important things which I disagree with. What? Do I just go so that I have contacts within Christianity and friends? Or perhaps some type of protection in these troubling times? Oh, I don't know what to do sometimes.


    Hi 2Besee,

    Can I ask what those important things which you disagree with them are?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,
    Mainly their focus on the sabbath, but there are other things.  I guess it's just the whole once a week routine.


    What are the other things?

    #346349
    2besee
    Participant

    Ed, just things! :D
    I don't want to go into it.

    #346403
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ June 04 2013,10:46)
    Ed, just things! :D
    I don't want to go into it.


    Can you tell me by PM?

    #346419
    carmel
    Participant

    t8,June wrote:

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    It is easy to dispel your evidence.

    t8,

    UP TO NOW NO ONE DID!

    YOU MADE IT MORE EVIDENT, THROUGH YOUR POOR ANSWERS!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #346422
    carmel
    Participant

    t8,June wrote:

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    It is easy to dispel your evidence.

    T8,

    IT SEEMS THAT YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE  ENOUGH TO ANSWER!

    NEVER MIND DISPELLING MY EVIDENCE

    TO VERIFY I AM WRONG!

    IS THERE A FEMININE SIDE OF GOD?

    COMMIT YOURSELF! SOME WOMEN ON HEAVEN NET ARE WAITING! BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SURE WHETHER GOD HAS SOMETHNG TO DO WITH THEM!

    ANOTHER QUESTION!

    IS THERE A MASCULINE SIDE OF GOD???

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #346477
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ June 04 2013,20:14)
    IS THERE A FEMININE SIDE OF GOD?

    COMMIT YOURSELF! SOME WOMEN ON HEAVEN NET ARE WAITING! BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SURE WHETHER GOD HAS SOMETHNG TO DO WITH THEM!


    If God made man in his image and he made man, both male and female, then I would suggest that part of the nature and attributes of the feminine originate in God. Likewise with the masculine.

    #346815
    carmel
    Participant

    t8,June wrote:

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    If God made man in his image and he made man, both male and female, then I would suggest that part of the nature and attributes of the feminine originate in God. Likewise with the masculine.

    T8,

    SO WE COULD CONCLUDE THAT EITHER GOD WITHIN HIMSELF OWNS BOTH ELEMENTS, OR WITHIN HIS WISDOM HE WANTED TO ESTABLISH HIS KINGDOM WITH THIS CONCEPT, OF MASCULINE AND FEMININE

    BUT NOW HOW DOES SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR REGARDING THE FATHER AND ALSO ALWAYS HAD HIS SON WITHIN HIM! BUT NOT CLEAR ENOUGH ABOUT THE MOTHER?

    IS HIS SON A BASTARD! IN A MODE TO SAY?

    DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE FATHER, IS A FATHER WITHOUT HAVING A MOTHER FOR HIS SON HE LOVES, SOMETHING WHICH IS FUNDAMENTAL IN OUR BELIEF?

    OR DID SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE FEMININE ASPECT OF GOD AND HE/SHE DIVORCED THEMSELVES!

    Jeremiah 3:6 During the reign of King Josiah, the Lord said to me, “Have you seen what fickle Israel has done? Like a wife who commits adultery, Israel has worshiped other gods on every hill and under every green tree. 7I thought, ‘After she has done all this, she will return to me.’ But she did not return, and her faithless sister Judah saw this. 8She saw that I divorced faithless Israel because of her adultery. But that treacherous sister Judah had no fear, and now she, too, has left me and given herself to prostitution.

    MY QUESTIONS :

    WHO IS ISRAEL REPRESENTING?

    WHO IS GUDAH REPRESENTING?

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

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