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  • #345336
    jb2u
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    Quote (carmel @ May 23 2013,07:47)
    …………..

    AND WHAT ABOUT PAUL'S STATEMENT, THAT ALL SPIRIT WERE SENT TO MINISTER FOR THOSE TO BE REDEEMED!

    SO THE APPOSTLES WERE NOT CONSIDERRED TO BE REDEEMED, SINCE THEY WERE FROM THE FATHER, ANGELS!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    By “Paul's statement , that all spirits were sent to minister for those to be redeemed”, are you talking about Hebrews 2:14??

    This is only talking about Jesus. It is to show the superiority of Christ to the angels. It has nothing to do with the apostles!!! The apostles very much need to be redeemed. Christ died for them as well as us!!!

    Proof? See 1 Peter 1:12
    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

    So he, the apostle Peter, includes himself as being covered under the blood of Christ!!! I think he knew what he was talking about, don't you??

    How about John???
    (1 John 1:7)
    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    So, John, the apostle, also feels that he is covered under the blood of Christ. It does sound like the apostles are part of the redeemed to me!!!!

    #345340
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 22 2013,12:54)

    Quote (carmel @ May 22 2013,08:50)
    Edj

    JESUS HAD HIS FATHER'S SPIRIT  100%

    JESUS HAD HIS SOUL THE HOLY SPIRIT  100%

    JESUS HAD HIS BODY   MARY'S FLESH  100% HIS EX
    SPIRIT

    JESUS HAD SATAN'S SPIRIT WITHIN HIS SOUL 100%

    Peace and love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    I see you managed to work your way towards “A Pattern of FIVE”; please take note T8.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ha ha ha. I am taking note, and laughing my head off.

    The Power of Five? The Power Rangers complete with spandex battle suits does not equate to God Ed J.

    How can I take anyone seriously when they feel at liberty to create God in the image they create in their mind? It seems to be that all the numbers are up for grabs when it comes to God.

    1 is already taken by Paul and Jesus, and I concur.
    2 belongs to Kathi
    3 belongs to Athanasius and all the Trinitarians that follow him.
    4 is up for grabs as far as I know
    5 is taken by Ed J
    6 is up for grabs
    1298374 is also up for grabs. Might take that one myself.

    :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  = five laughs that are one big laugh.

    #345348
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi T8,  (LINK to thread we can discuss this further)

          JEHOVAH is mentioned “FIVE” times (in singular form) in the “AKJV Bible”:

    There are Exactly FIVE ways God's Name is written in singular form in the AKJV Bible,
    corresponding to the FIVE numerical signature markers in “God's Signature”.
    (Note: JEHOVAH is also written in three phrases, illustrating a trinity)

    1) JEHOVAH is My Name “YHVH”=63 (Exodus 6:3)
    2) JEHOVAH is The Most High “GOD The Father”=117 (Psalm 83:18)
    3) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 is [The Savior=117] in “Jesus Christ”=151 (Isa 12:2)
    4) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 is Everlasting strength in “Holy Spirit”=151 (Isaiah 26:4)
    5) JAH (Psalm 68:4) The Name of “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ”=26 and “YÄ-hä-vā


                                     God's Signature
                                     Proof of God=117
    GOD(26) The Bible(63) AKJV Bible(74) The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

            יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
            YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
            Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
            HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
            God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #345354
    kerwin
    Participant

    To all,

    I believe I am up to date. If I missed a post please bump it and let me know. Thank you.

    #345380
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Ed J. Let me enlighten you.

    There are numbers all over the place.

    Just the other day I saw a cow with 2 heads and 8 legs.
    Hangon a minute, that could have been 2 cows standing next to each other.

    #345614
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,10:49)
    [/quote]

    t8,May wrote:


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    :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  = five laughs that are one big laugh.    

    t8, Edj,and all,

    Read and discern!

    1 Corinthians 1 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles FOOLISHNESS:

    25:For the foolishness of God is wiser than men;………..

    So according to the above, you as gentile, CONSIDER GOD'S WISDOM AS FOOLISHNESS NO?

    IF SINCE I  REVEALED A GLIMPSE OF GOD'S WISDOM YOU ARE LAUGHING  

    I wonder what would happen to you, thanks to the Holy Spirit for enlightening me,

    IF YOU WERE TO READ THE REST OF WHAT I HAVE IN STORE !

    WHO KNOWS? MAY BE YOU SIMPLY DIE, AND YOU WON'T HAVE A CHANCE EVEN TO LAUGH AT ALL!never mind I will only give you glimpses

    NOW READ :

    REV:13:18Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six.

    NOW !

    IN THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE OF REV:13:18

    IT IS CLEAR THAT THE NUMBER  666 ,

    IS A REFERENCE  TO :

    THE BEAST!

    THE MAN!

    AND  

    HIM

    SO! AT LEAST now !!!

    BE SERIOUS, AND TELL ME  WHO IS HIM ACCORDING TO YOUR WORLDLY WISDOM?

    ALSO:

    I ESTABLISHED UP TO FIVE SPIRIT ELEMENTS OF GOD'S ATTRIBUTES, SO I WAS SHORT WITH JUST ONE TO REACH THE NUMBER SIX!

    BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT MADE ME REALIZE  THAT I WAS NOT ACCORDING TO  MY BELIEF!

    SO I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF AND INSTEAD OF FIVE, IN REALITY IT SHOULD BE SIX!

    More to come

    TO CLARIFY:

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #345624
    jb2u
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,20:39)
    Ed J. Let me enlighten you.

    There are numbers all over the place.

    Just the other day I saw a cow with 2 heads and 8 legs.
    Hangon a minute, that could have been 2 cows standing next to each other.


    t8,

    That is funny right there!!

    #345625
    jb2u
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ May 26 2013,01:02)
    t8, Edj,and all,

    Read and discern!

    1 Corinthians 1 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles FOOLISHNESS:

    25:For the foolishness of God is wiser than men;………..

    So according to the above, you as gentile, CONSIDER GOD'S WISDOM AS FOOLISHNESS NO?

    IF SINCE I  REVEALED A GLIMPSE OF GOD'S WISDOM YOU ARE LAUGHING  

    I wonder what would happen to you, thanks to the Holy Spirit for enlightening me,

    IF YOU WERE TO READ THE REST OF WHAT I HAVE IN STORE !

    WHO KNOWS? MAY BE YOU SIMPLY DIE, AND YOU WON'T HAVE A CHANCE EVEN TO LAUGH AT ALL!never mind I will only give you glimpses

    NOW READ :

    REV:13:18Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six.

    NOW !

    IN THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE OF REV:13:18

    IT IS CLEAR THAT THE NUMBER  666 ,

    IS A REFERENCE  TO :

    THE BEAST!

    THE MAN!

    AND  

    HIM

    SO! AT LEAST now !!!

    BE SERIOUS, AND TELL ME  WHO IS HIM ACCORDING TO YOUR WORLDLY WISDOM?

    ALSO:

    I ESTABLISHED UP TO FIVE SPIRIT ELEMENTS OF GOD'S ATTRIBUTES, SO I WAS SHORT WITH JUST ONE TO REACH THE NUMBER SIX!

    BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT MADE ME REALIZE  THAT I WAS NOT ACCORDING TO  MY BELIEF!

    SO I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF AND INSTEAD OF FIVE, IN REALITY IT SHOULD BE SIX!

    More to come

    TO CLARIFY:

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Charles, Charles, Charles…you kill me!!!

    Only you could take a scripture that Paul writes for the purpose of teaching the Corinthians that the “teaching of the cross” is a SIMPLE doctrine and turn it into something else!!!

    1 Corinthians 1
    17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
    18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
    19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

    22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

    You see, for the Jews, it was a stumbling block. They did not realize that there was to be a suffering Messiah that first must be crucified. They were “tripped up.” Now, as for the Gentiles, they sought philosophy (wisdom). To God, this was foolishness. And to the Gentiles, the idea of a poor, suffering Messiah that would allow Himself to be killed only to later reign just did not make sense; thus, they were foolish.

    I think by “foolishness”, God means something more like this..

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    (Quote by carmel)
    I wonder what would happen to you, thanks to the Holy Spirit for enlightening me,

    IF YOU WERE TO READ THE REST OF WHAT I HAVE IN STORE !

    WHO KNOWS? MAY BE YOU SIMPLY DIE, AND YOU WON'T HAVE A CHANCE EVEN TO LAUGH AT ALL!never mind I will only give you glimpses

    Foolishness!!

    #345627
    carmel
    Participant

    carmel,May wrote:

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    :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  = five laughs that are one big laugh.    

    t8, Edj, and all

    In my first post on page 74:

    I POSTED:

    THEREFORE 5 ELEMENTS:

    ONE EVIL AS FLESH.  US!

    ONE EVIL AS SPIRIT. US!

    AND THE WORD THE TRIUNE GOD! MEDIATOR /CREATOR!  US! THE SOUL TO BE!

    CORRECTION: IN A PARTICULAR WAY and you will know why!

    I should have stated:

    THE WORD THE TRIUNE GOD! MEDIATOR/CREATOR, APART THAT HE WAS FIVE ELEMENTS TO FUNCTION AS GOD OF THE WORLD, IN REALITY   HE WAS FUNCTIONING AS SIX !

    For the simple reason that since in our creation there’s a positive and a negative energy, the negative energy produced,A FIVE SPIRIT ELEMENTS BEAST, PREADAMITE

    Now UNINTENTIONALL I left OUT the Father who is always in heaven!
    SO GOD THROUGH THE WORD CREATED THAT BEAST AND THE ALMIGHTY INDIRECTLY WAS THAT BEAST! Since he is THE  SOURCE

    THEREFORE: SIX SPIRIT ELEMENTS

    SO FROM HERE WE DISCOVER THAT DURING CREATION THERE WAS THE GOD OF THE WORLD, WHICH CREATED THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF THE WORLD!  SIX GOD ALMIGHTY HIDDEN IN THE BEAST, THE SON’S SPIRIT AS THE WORD MATERIAL WISE!  

    THERE WAS THE GOD OF THE WORLD, WHICH CREATED THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF THE WORLD!  SIX GOD ALMIGHTY HIDDEN IN THE BEAST, THE SON’S SPIRIT AS THE WORD  SPIRIT WISE  SIX

    BOTH THE ABOVE FUNCTIONS CREATED THE GENERATIONS OF EARTH!   EVIL ANGELS IN FLESH, AND A SPIRIT WITHIN

    IN THE SAME INSTANT, SO NOT TO REPEAT,GOD DIRECTLY CREATED THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE WORLD SIX GOD ALMIGHTY  THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT BOTH MATERIAL WISE, AND SPIRIT WISE!

    THE ABOVE FUNCTION  CREATED THE GENERATIONS OF HEAVEN GOOD ANGELS IN FLESH

    Now through this process God created the entire world BOTH NEGATIVE, EVIL, AND POSITIVE, GOOD!

    ONE SOWS, AND ONE REAPS!

    NEXT PROCESS WAS TO ELIMINATE THE ENTIRE EVIL, AND ESTABLISH THE ENTIRE WORLD GOOD GENESIS 1:3 HOW?

    MORE TO COME

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #345628
    carmel
    Participant

    carmel,May wrote:

    [/quote]

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    1 Corinthians 1 23But we preach Christ crucified,

    Jb2u,

    IT PROVES THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE INTEREST!

    TO CONTRADICT ME, WITHOUT ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND MY POST!

    THE ABOCE SCRIPTURE IS:

    PURE GOD'S WISDOM

    DO YOU DENY THAT IT IS SO

    ANSWER :

    YES OR NO!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #345629
    carmel
    Participant

    Jb2u,

    Read just in case you forgot to respect the context of 1 Corinthians : like you did with my post

    1 Corinthians 23:But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: 24But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, CHRIST THE POWER OF GOD, AND THE WISDOM OF GOD.

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #345644
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ May 26 2013,00:53)
    Jb2u,

    Read just in case you forgot to respect the context of 1 Corinthians : like you did with my post

    1 Corinthians 23:But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: 24But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, CHRIST THE POWER OF GOD, AND THE WISDOM OF GOD.

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    CARMEL

    it is the wisdom of God to bring the powers of the world down with the meekest act ;Jesus Christ Crucifixion ,this was not accepted by the Jews, because they wanted someone that would do what they want ,

    and this was God's wisdom to do so ;and still so BECAUSE IT IS BY BELIEVING IN CHRIST THAT WE WILL BE SAVED .

    #345645
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ May 25 2013,20:02)

    Quote (t8 @ May 23 2013,10:49)
    [/quote]

    t8,May wrote:


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    :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  = five laughs that are one big laugh.    

    t8, Edj,and all,

    Read and discern!

    1 Corinthians 1 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles FOOLISHNESS:

    25:For the foolishness of God is wiser than men;………..

    So according to the above, you as gentile, CONSIDER GOD'S WISDOM AS FOOLISHNESS NO?

    IF SINCE I  REVEALED A GLIMPSE OF GOD'S WISDOM YOU ARE LAUGHING  

    I wonder what would happen to you, thanks to the Holy Spirit for enlightening me,

    IF YOU WERE TO READ THE REST OF WHAT I HAVE IN STORE !

    WHO KNOWS? MAY BE YOU SIMPLY DIE, AND YOU WON'T HAVE A CHANCE EVEN TO LAUGH AT ALL!never mind I will only give you glimpses

    NOW READ :

    REV:13:18Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. For it is the number of a man: and the number of him is six hundred sixty-six.

    NOW !

    IN THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE OF REV:13:18

    IT IS CLEAR THAT THE NUMBER  666 ,

    IS A REFERENCE  TO :

    THE BEAST!

    THE MAN!

    AND  

    HIM

    SO! AT LEAST now !!!

    BE SERIOUS, AND TELL ME  WHO IS HIM ACCORDING TO YOUR WORLDLY WISDOM?

    ALSO:

    I ESTABLISHED UP TO FIVE SPIRIT ELEMENTS OF GOD'S ATTRIBUTES, SO I WAS SHORT WITH JUST ONE TO REACH THE NUMBER SIX!

    BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT MADE ME REALIZE  THAT I WAS NOT ACCORDING TO  MY BELIEF!

    SO I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF AND INSTEAD OF FIVE, IN REALITY IT SHOULD BE SIX!

    More to come

    TO CLARIFY:

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    charles

    Quote
    never mind I will only give you glimpses

    that is all you have my friend;glimpses.

    #345680
    carmel
    Participant

    mikeboll64,May wrote:

    [/quote]
    Page 70 non trinity believing church.

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    (1) Charles, God being the “head of” Christ means the same thing as Christ being the “head of” man.

    The words “head of” mean “boss of”, or “ruler of”.

    (2) Christ being the head of man doesn't mean men and Christ are two different parts of the same being.

    (3) Neither does God being the head of Christ mean that God and Christ are two different parts of the same being.

    Mike,

    (1)God is the head of Christ :      GOD IS THE SOUL OF CHRIST, IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, AS MAN ON EARTH!

    Christ is the head of man:        CHRIST IS THE SOUL OF MAN  THROUGH THE SON’S SPIRIT : ADAM WAS THE FIRST SOUL,THE SON’S SPIRIT, GOD’S SUBSTANCE

    SO THERE’S NO RULER, AND  BOSS, BUT LIFE, and LOVE.FROM GOD ONTO MAN, EX LUCIFER!

    (2)Christ is the soul of man:  THE SON’S SPIRIT THROUGH CREATION, GOD’S SUBSTANCE!  

    Man is flesh, matter:  THE  SON’S SPIRIT  SUBSTANCE TRANSFORMED AS MATTER IN CREATION!

    SO BOTH THE SOUL OF MAN, AND THE FLESH OF MAN ARE THE EX SON’S SPIRIT THROUGH CREATION!

    ADAM WAS CREATED AND MADE THE IMAGE OF GOD IN BOTH SOUL AND FLESH  MALE AND FEMAL, RESPECTIVELY:   BOTH EX SON’S SPIRIT THROUGH CREATION!

    Genesis 1:26 And he said:

    Let us MAKE A REFERENCE TO THE FLESH SINCE HE used the word make and  he would be  IN CONTROL OVER THE MATERIAL WORLD!

    man to our image and likeness:……………..

    27: And God CREATEDA REFERENCE TO THE SOUL

    man to his own image:  

    to the image of God he created him:

    male and female he created them. a refrence to the   SOUL and FLESH

    SO ALTHOUGH THEY ARE BOTH FROM THE SON’S SPIRIT , THEY STILL ARE OPPOSITE  ONE SPIRIT, SOUL and ONE FLESH ,MATTER!

    ALL BY HIM ,   ALL MATTER BY HIM, BY HIS SPIRIT

    ALL IN HIM,     ALL SOULS IN HIS SPIRIT,

    ALL FOR HIM! ALL FOR HIS MYSTICAL BODY, THE CHURCH,  THE BRIDE, THE SON’S KINGDOM , FOR THE FATHER TO ABIDE WITHIN ON THE LAST DAY

    (3)GOD IS THE SOUL  (THE HOLY SPIRIT,) OF CHRIST,

    CHRIST IS THE WORD MADE FLSH, THE TRIUNE GOD IN FLESH,

    SO THE FLESH BODY, AS STATED ABOVE  ALL MATTER, IS THE EX SON’S SPIRIT THROUGH CREATION IN THE BODY OF MARY!

    SO SINCE THE SON’S SPIRIT, THE WORD THE TRIUNE GOD WAS TRANSFORMED IN ALL MATTER IN CREATION, HE ,WHILE ON EARTH WAS:

    FLESH  BODY OPPOSITE TO GOD,  HIS SOUL, THE HOLY SPIRIT!

    SO YES MIKE:

    God and Christ are two different parts of the same being.  

    ALL OF GOD’S GENUINE UNIQUE SUBSTANCE

    SO THE WORD HEAD IN 1Corinthians 11:3 is a reference to the soul, IN ORDER TO ASSERT THAT THE CHURCH MUST BE ESTABLISHED ACCORDING TO THE SOUL CONCEPT SPIRITUALNOT TO THE FLESH CONCEPT, LIKE THEY USED TO LIVE IN THE OT!

    Which Paul was struggling to establish within the church ,which was entirely carnal, due to the fact that Peter’s flaw character, was not suitable to achieve.

    Te reason that he opted to be crucified upside down!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #345681
    carmel
    Participant

    terraricca,May wrote:

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    that is all you have my friend;glimpses.

    TERRARICCA,

    HOW PROUD I AM FOR JESUS' SAKE

    IN ORDER TO REACH GOD THE FATHER

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #345682
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2013,20:31)
    …I assume Adam and Eve had blood….


    Great!  That is a logical assumption, since their immediate offspring had blood.

    Now, tell me which scripture says flesh and bone can enter the kingdom of God.

    #345683
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (kerwin @ May 19 2013,20:35)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 20 2013,05:37)

    In what scriptural instance does a “spirit” need to be “reborn”?


    Mike,

    Titus 3:5

    King James Version (KJV)
    5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

    Colossians 3:10
    King James Version (KJV)

    10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:


    I'm still waiting. The scriptures you listed don't say a spirit was “reborn”.

    #345684
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (t8 @ May 21 2013,16:10)
    This opens up the possibility that the Lord's Angel as described in the Old Testament is Jesus.


    Many Trinitarians believe this – despite the fact it means Jesus is an ANGEL OF Jehovah.

    But what about this verse:
    Hebrews 1
    1  In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son……..

    Does the fact that God was said to have spoken to us through His Son “in these last days”, and not “in the past”, prohibit Jesus from being any of the angels of the LORD in the OT?

    I don't know.  What do you guys think?

    #345685
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (carmel @ May 26 2013,10:44)
    TERRARICCA,

    HOW PROUD I AM FOR JESUS' SAKE

    IN ORDER TO REACH GOD THE FATHER


    Why Charles? Why is it important for you to reach “God the Father” – if Jesus is the exact same thing?

    #345711
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (jb2u @ May 23 2013,09:37)
    [/quote]

    jb2u,May wrote:


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    First, only the Bible is the inspired word of God. There were believers that wrote other books, but God did not see fit to include them in the Bible, did He?

    Jb2u,

    WRONG,WRONG, AND WRONG!!!

    HOW MANY KINDS OF BIBLE ARE AVAILABLE?

    THE OT BIBLE IS SEALED!

    JESUS  SPOKE THE TRUE WORD OF GOD! HE IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

    HE  SACRIFICED HIMSELF!

    HE RAISED HIMSELF IN THREE DAYS!

    HE SENT AND INSTITUTED THE HOLY SPIRIT!

    HE ESTABLISHED THE TRUE TEMPLE OF GOD FOR EVER!

    JESUS, LEFT THIS WORLD!

    ALL THE ABOVE WAS NOT SUFFICIENT!

    HE STILL NEEDED TO WORK, AS HE IS STILL DOING UP TO THIS VERY DAY, AND EVERY SECOND WHICH PASSES!

    WHAT DID HE DO??

    OBVIOUS, HE STILL HAD TO ESTABLISH FOR WHAT HE DIED FOR!

    SINCE HE HIMSELF SAID:

    John 12:24Amen, amen I say to you, unless the grain of wheat falling into the ground die, 25Itself remaineth alone. But if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world, keepeth it unto life eternal.

    SO HE STILL HAD TO PRODUCE FRUIT ,THE REAL FRUIT THAT HE DIED FOR!

    SO HE CALLED ONTO

    PAUL

    SO UNLESS THE SEED BECOME A TREE AND PRODUCES FRUIT, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY OUT, TO BURN THAT TREE

    PAUL, KNEW ALL IN THE LEAST  DETAIL ABOUT THE OT, AND HIS FATHERS’ PROCEDURES AND HE CALLED THEM DUNG  TO ESTABLISH CHRIST IN THE TRUTH

    YOU AND ME ARE HERE DISCUSSING WHAT :

    ONLY PAUL ESTABLISHED ALTHOUGH

    THERE WAS THE OT BIBLE! JESUS DIED! THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS INSTITUTED!

    SO WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO US, IF PAUL WAS NOT SELECTED BY JESUS?

    PAUL HIMSELF AFFIRMED THAT:

    JESUS HIMSELF TOOK HIM UP IN HEAVEN, AND TAUGHT HIM THE APPROPRIATE TEACHING, TO ESTABLISH  THE SOUL CONCEPT WITHIN THE CHURCH!

    SO PAUL HAD TO ESTABLISH  IN THE TRUTH THE SOULS YET THE NEW  UNIVERSAL INWARD MEN, WHICH ARE THE FRUIT, JESUS'SPIRIT REMNANTS, AND

    WHATJESUS DIED FOR!

    PAUL DIED NEARLY TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO!

    WE HAVE IN OUR HANDS THE GOSPEL, AND PAUL’S  LETTERS!

    ALL THAT  IS STILL NOT SUFFICIENT!!!

    THE WAR WAS JUST STARTED WHEN PAUL LEFT THIS WORLD.

    WE ARE STILL STRUGGLING FOR THE TRUTH!

    John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you shall have distress: but have confidence, I have overcome the world.

    SO JESUS HIMSELF, THROUGHOUT ALL THESE YEARS!

    REPEATED WHAT HE DID TO PAUL ONTO OTHERS!

    WE OURSELVES MUST KEEP ON SEARCHING, KNOCKING, TO FIND THE TRUTH, BUT ONLY IF WE READ  ALL THE MATERIAL WHICH JESUS CHRIST FURNISHED US WITH, AND STILL FURNISHES US ALONG THE WAY TO SALVATION. WHILE ON EARTH

    WHATEVER WE DO WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE  GOSPEL  FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST  CAN NEVER HURT US HE WILL NOT PERMIT IT HE IS THE SOLE RULER OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSES

    HE AFFIRMED HIMSELF

    John 10:28 And I give them life everlasting; and they shall not perish for ever,

    AND NO MAN SHALL PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.

    29That which my Father hath given me, is greater than all:

    AND NONE CAN SNATCH THEM OUT OF THE HAND OF MY FATHER

    30  I AND THE( WHY NOT MY!) FATHER ARE ONE

    SO!

    Precious writings from Paul’s death up to this day — that have, until now, been reserved for the elite of theology and those few who have had access to private religious archives — are now being made available in electronic form.

    AS I STATED God has always spoken to those who were listening and so it continues today;   WE DO WRONG IF WE IGNORE THESE, SINCE WE HAVE SOLID FOUNDATION  TO VERIFY  WITH! in this LAST AGE, it seems fitting that all searching souls should have access to material that was heretofore unavailable, for their own study and spiritual growth.  The World Wide Web of the Internet seems more than just a coincidence in that it provides exactly that medium whereby these writings can be freely shared.

    These manuscripts were once considered to be of great spiritual value — until they were suppressed by the reigning religious leaders of the day.   They were brought forth long ago by obedient sons and daughters of God, acting as instruments, by recording for all humankind, these amazing revelations and messages, that were given to ALL men and women for their spiritual growth and enlightenment.   Over the centuries, these documents have been faithfully preserved and protected by other vessels, who were called to do so.   We all are the beneficiaries of their obedience and courage.

    IF YOU ARE A SEEKER OF TRUTH, who would undertake the study of these documents, you need not be a scholar, preacher, priest or religious leader —

    YOU NEED ONLY BE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR SPIRITUAL WALK, AND WITH ONE INTENTION TO BE CLOSER TO JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD, THEREFORE CLOSER TO GOD THE FATHER
    The names of the human writers — so far removed from us in time — are not so important as their common Source of Wisdom and the missing pieces that they provide, to the great unfolding puzzle of Time and Eternity.    Be prepared to give them the necessary time and attention that will be required of you, in order to uncover the Pearl of Great Price that may be found within.

    YOU ON HEAVEN NET ARE READING MY POSTS, I AM DOING THE SAME, BUT UNLESS WE DO IT FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST, THE WORD MADE FLESH, THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN FLESH SINCE WE ARE FLESH!

    IT IS USELESS!

    THERE’S ONLY ONE SPIRIT

    1 CORINTHIANS 12 For as the body is one, and hath many members; and all the members of the body, whereas they are many, yet are one body,

    SO ALSO IS CHRIST

    13For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles, whether bond or free; and in one Spirit we have all been made to drink.

    27NOW YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, and members of member.

    HE IS THE TRUTH!

    HE IS THE WAY!

    HE IS THE LIFE!

    HE IS BEFORE ALL  BECAUSE HE IS ALL!

    NO  HIM  NO FATHER

    THEREFORE HE IS OUR FATHER

    NO HIM NO GOD

    THEREFORE HE IS OUR GOD!

    John 14:1 LET not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME!.

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

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