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Hi Kerwin,
Do you believe that Jesus can only be in one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgjb2u,May wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus NEVER says, as you say, “His Father was not known as the only true God.” jb2u,
Jesus in the previous verse, confirmed that HE IS THE ETERNAL LIFE
THE TRIUNE GOD IN JESUS’ FLESH BODY IS THE ETERNAL LIFE!
THE WORD MADE FLESH IS THE ETERNAL LIFE!
WHEN WE RETURN TO 17:3, JESUS IN AN EMPHATIC WAY, SAID:
THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE
SO WE HAVE NO DOUBT THAT JESUS WAS REFERRING TO HIMSELF AS THE ETERNAL LIFE
Then he continued and said: THAT THEY MAY KNOW YOU
So it is clear, IT IS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE ETERNAL LIFE THAT ALMIGHTY GOD WOULD BE KNOWN!BUT HOW? IN WHAT STATE THEY WOULD KNOW ALMIGHTY GOD?
OBVIOUS IN A STATE THAT HE NEVER WAS KNOWN BEFORE:
AS GOD OF ALL FLESH
SO NOT JUST THE ONLY TRUE SPIRIT GOD!
THAT’S OVER AND DONE WITH! FOR SOME! FOR HIS OWN SELECT!
BUT AS:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
THE ONLY TRUE GOD SPIRIT and BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH
So God Almighty would be known for the first ever time as both spirit and flesh, therefore: as Jesus Christ,
Then he concluded:
WHOM YOU HAVE SENT!
OBVIOUS IN ORDER TO GLORIFY BOTH THE FATHER, THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS'SOUL, AND HIMSELF JESUS' SPIRIT AS FLESH,IN ONE SAME GLORY!
SO GOD ALMIGHTY, THE TRIUNE GOD, USED HIS ELEMENTS OF THREE PERSONS TO BECOME GOD IN FLESH
AND IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH IT, HE ALSO GLORIFIED THE ENTIRE CREATION IN HIMSELF THROUGH JESUS CHRIST'S BODY!
FIRST CREATION THROUGH THE FATHER THE HEAVENS!
SECOND CREATION THROUGH THE WORD, HIS SON AS A MEDIATOR/CREATOR SPIRIT, OUR MATERIAL WORLD
THIRD CREATION THROUGH THE WORD MADE FLESH AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN, HIS SON AS JESUS CHRIST!
THE LIFE GIVEN SPIRIT!TO CLARIFY:
I CANNOT IMMAGINE THE FATHER ABIDING DIRECTLY IN A SOUL, NOT EQUAL to HIMSLEF!
Jeremiah 32:41And I will rejoice over them, when I shall do them good: and I will plant them in this land in truth,
with my whole heart, and with all my soul.
The above is definitely a reference to Jesus Christ, The word made flesh, and Jesus' soul was the Holy Spirit.
He conceived Mary and the word spiritwise is the Holy Spirit!
Jesus' spirit was the actual flesh body only! and in the above scripture God referred to it as HIS HEART!
GOD THE FATHER IS A SPIRIT,AND A SPIRIT, HAS NO ELEMENTS AS SUCH except through Christ for now!
GOD ESTABLISHED THE SOULS FOR HUMANS ONLY, IN ORDER FOR THE SPIRITS TO ABIDE WITHIN HUMANS WITHOUT DESTROYING THE FLESH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
kerwin,May wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus' human spirit side gives soulish life to his physical side. Jesus is what he was before the disciples, a flesh and bone man whose body lives body is given spiritual life by the Spirit of God. He is currently ruling from heaven.
Kerwin,
EXPLAIN:
John5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given the Son also to have life in himself:
THE ABOVE STATEMENT CONFIRMS AS I STATED IN OTHER POSTS THAT:
THE SON'S SPIRIT, GOD'S SPIRIT, IS JESUS ACTUAL FLESH BODY!
SO JESUS' FLESH BODY IS NOT MORTAL LIKE OURS, ALTHOUGH HE SEEMED HE DIED AS FLESH, BUT HE ACTUALLY WAS IN THE SPIRITUAL PROCESS!
HE WAS REVERSING THE PROCESS SO HIS FLESH SUBSTANCE RETURNS INTO HIS SPIRITUAL SUBSTANCE,AND RETURN TO THE FATHER,WITHOUT LOSING THE ATTRIBUTES OF THE FLESH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
jb2u,May wrote:[/quote]
Quote I see that the world does not know GOD, but the TRUE believers (those that God has given to Jesus) KNOW that GOD sent Jesus. NOTICE: it does NOT say the true believers know that I am God. No, Jesus is saying that the true believers know that GOD sent Jesus!! Do you see the difference??? Jb2u,
There are NO TRUE BELIEVERS MENTIONED IN THAT SCRIPTURE!
THE APPOSTLES, WERE ANGELS SENT AS MAN TO ESTABLISH THE CHURCH!
THEY WERE NOT OF THE SATANIC WORLD,THE GENERATIONS OF EARTH, LIKE WE ARE!
THEY WERE THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE GENERATIONS OF HEAVEN, PURPOSELY SELECTED BY JESUS!
SO THEY KNEW GOD SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE SENT BY GOD!
BUT THE WORLD, THE ACTUAL WORLD NEVER KNEW GOD IN THE TRUTH, THEY ONLY KNEW THE GOD OF THE WORLD!
SATAN!
SATAN TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION,SINCE HUMANS WERE NOT OF GOD,BUT OF SINFULL ADAM! OR RATHER HAD SATAN'S SPIRIT WITHIN THEIR SOULS, AND MADE THEIR HEART OF STONE!
SO THE ONLY WAY OUT FOR GOD WAS TO REMOVE SATAN'S SPIRIT FROM NATURE ENTIRELY,NOT FROM SOULS ONLY, IN FACT NATURE IS MORE PURE THEN US!WE ARE STILL SUBJECT TO EVIL CONCEPT!
SO IT IS CLEAR ENOUGH THAT GOD WAS NOT KNOWN IN THIS WORLD! ONLY JESUS, THE WORD MADE FLESH,THE GODHEAD IN FLESH, REVEALED HIM,AND ESTABLISHED HIM BOTH ON EARTH AND IN HEAVENS!
Jeremiah 24:7 And I will give them a heart TO KNOW ME, that I am the Lord: and they SHALL BE MY PEOPLE, and I will be THEIR GOD: because they shall return to me with their whole heart.
GOD WAS NEVER KNOWN, BY HIS OWN PEOPLE, WHO HIMSELF HAD CHOSEN, NOT EVEN THEIR GOD, NEVER MIND THE REST OF THE WORLD,WHICH WAS SATAN'S
The OT is full of these kind of statements!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ May 17 2013,03:50) jb2u, Jesus in the previous verse, confirmed that HE IS THE ETERNAL LIFE
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Yes Charles!
“For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;” (John 5:26)
“For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you
that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;” (1 John 1:2)Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 16 2013,20:50) Hi Kerwin, Do you believe that Jesus can only be in one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Jesus is only in one place as a time. Mosses was his fore-type and while Moses stood with Joshua in one place the spirit that was on Moses went to rest on the Seventy elders that God chose. This bothered Joshua but Mosses expressed his hope that one day that same Spirit would come to rest on all God's children. God gave Jesus the authority to choose who would receive it and rule them through it. In this way Jesus lives in those that believe even though he is in one place at one time, just as Mosses was in his age.
Quote (carmel @ May 16 2013,23:16) kerwin,May wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus' human spirit side gives soulish life to his physical side. Jesus is what he was before the disciples, a flesh and bone man whose body lives body is given spiritual life by the Spirit of God. He is currently ruling from heaven.
Kerwin,
EXPLAIN:
John5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given the Son also to have life in himself:
THE ABOVE STATEMENT CONFIRMS AS I STATED IN OTHER POSTS THAT:
THE SON'S SPIRIT, GOD'S SPIRIT, IS JESUS ACTUAL FLESH BODY!
SO JESUS' FLESH BODY IS NOT MORTAL LIKE OURS, ALTHOUGH HE SEEMED HE DIED AS FLESH, BUT HE ACTUALLY WAS IN THE SPIRITUAL PROCESS!
HE WAS REVERSING THE PROCESS SO HIS FLESH SUBSTANCE RETURNS INTO HIS SPIRITUAL SUBSTANCE,AND RETURN TO THE FATHER,WITHOUT LOSING THE ATTRIBUTES OF THE FLESH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Carmel,Jesus body was mortal and flesh and blood before he sacrificed and was resurrected himself. It became immortal and flesh and bone as he was resurrected and afterwards. The Spirit was not the body that was perishing and perished as the Spirit gives life and does not perish. It is not the body that was resurrected because that body was given life by the power of the Spirit.
Instead the Spirit was first Jesus' Councilor and when he was made perfect and came into his kingdom he sent it to those who in belief obeyed his teachings.
The Spirit gives life and so is life to those that believe.
Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2013,20:38) Mike, Ecclesiastes 12:7
King James Version (KJV)7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Do you believe that the body of Adam is of the dust and the spirit of Adam come from the one that is above?
I am of the opinion you do believe those words but do not like them applied to 1 Corinthians 15:47-49.
Okay Kerwin,I'll indulge you for just a brief minute here.
1 Corinthians 15:45
“The first man Adam became a living soul”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.So first, the dust body of Adam became a living soul, right? How did this body of dust become a living soul BEFORE God added the “spirit Adam” to it?
Then, the “spirit Adam” BECAME a life-giving spirit. What does that mean, Kerwin? In what way has the spirit of the original Adam given life to anyone? Please explain.
Quote (carmel @ May 17 2013,03:50) jb2u, Jesus in the previous verse, confirmed that HE IS THE ETERNAL LIFE
THE TRIUNE GOD IN JESUS’ FLESH BODY IS THE ETERNAL LIFE!
…………………………
………………………….
TO CLARIFY:I CANNOT IMMAGINE THE FATHER ABIDING DIRECTLY IN A SOUL, NOT EQUAL to HIMSLEF!
…………
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Jesus IS eternal life, for without Jesus we do not have eternal life. Why is that? Is it because He is God? No!!! That is what you think because you read the Bible and interpret it to what you want or “feel” is right. The REASON why Jesus is eternal life is because HE died for our sins. If there was no Messiah, sin would not have been atoned for. GOD was well pleased with Jesus' sacrifice; and so, BECAUSE OF JESUS' OBEDIENCE exalted Him above all mankind and the angels, but BELOW GOD!!! Understand??You say “I cannot imagine the Father abiding directly in a soul, not equal to Himself.” This proves my point. You ignore scripture because you “cannot imagine it.” You should not “imagine” anything. Just read the scripture and pray for understanding!!
John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.Romans 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.And so, the Father IS greater and it is because of the obedience of Jesus, not because He was God, that we have eternal life….according to the scripture!!!!
Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2013,20:50) Hi Kerwin, Do you believe that Jesus can only be in one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J
Ed,Jesus is only in one place as a time. Mosses was his fore-type and while Moses stood with Joshua in one place the spirit that was on Moses went to rest on the Seventy elders that God chose. This bothered Joshua but Mosses expressed his hope that one day that same Spirit would come to rest on all God's children. God gave Jesus the authority to choose who would receive it and rule them through it. In this way Jesus lives in those that believe even though he is in one place at one time, just as Mosses was in his age.
Hi Kerwin,So even though Jesus is “God's Son” – he doesn't have God qualities? – Is this verse not true?
“What he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19)Can YHVH not be in more than one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (carmel @ May 17 2013,06:58) jb2u,May wrote:[/quote]
Quote I see that the world does not know GOD, but the TRUE believers (those that God has given to Jesus) KNOW that GOD sent Jesus. NOTICE: it does NOT say the true believers know that I am God. No, Jesus is saying that the true believers know that GOD sent Jesus!! Do you see the difference??? Jb2u,
There are NO TRUE BELIEVERS MENTIONED IN THAT SCRIPTURE!
THE APPOSTLES, WERE ANGELS SENT AS MAN TO ESTABLISH THE CHURCH!
THEY WERE NOT OF THE SATANIC WORLD,THE GENERATIONS OF EARTH, LIKE WE ARE!
THEY WERE THE WORK OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE GENERATIONS OF HEAVEN, PURPOSELY SELECTED BY JESUS!
SO THEY KNEW GOD SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE SENT BY GOD!
BUT THE WORLD, THE ACTUAL WORLD NEVER KNEW GOD IN THE TRUTH, THEY ONLY KNEW THE GOD OF THE WORLD!
SATAN!
SATAN TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION,SINCE HUMANS WERE NOT OF GOD,BUT OF SINFULL ADAM! OR RATHER HAD SATAN'S SPIRIT WITHIN THEIR SOULS, AND MADE THEIR HEART OF STONE!
SO THE ONLY WAY OUT FOR GOD WAS TO REMOVE SATAN'S SPIRIT FROM NATURE ENTIRELY,NOT FROM SOULS ONLY, IN FACT NATURE IS MORE PURE THEN US!WE ARE STILL SUBJECT TO EVIL CONCEPT!
SO IT IS CLEAR ENOUGH THAT GOD WAS NOT KNOWN IN THIS WORLD! ONLY JESUS, THE WORD MADE FLESH,THE GODHEAD IN FLESH, REVEALED HIM,AND ESTABLISHED HIM BOTH ON EARTH AND IN HEAVENS!
Jeremiah 24:7 And I will give them a heart TO KNOW ME, that I am the Lord: and they SHALL BE MY PEOPLE, and I will be THEIR GOD: because they shall return to me with their whole heart.
GOD WAS NEVER KNOWN, BY HIS OWN PEOPLE, WHO HIMSELF HAD CHOSEN, NOT EVEN THEIR GOD, NEVER MIND THE REST OF THE WORLD,WHICH WAS SATAN'S
The OT is full of these kind of statements!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
You really lose me when you start talking about angels being sent to be the apostles. Surely you jest!!!The true believers that are mentioned are NOT just the apostles. Everyone that believes the truth, that Jesus is the SON of God are the true believers. We are all His!!
Jesus never called Himself God. It is recorded over and over in the Bible that Jesus is the Son of God. The “Son of” can never BE the Father!!!
The devil knew Jesus is the Son…
Matthew 4:3
And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.The evil spirits of the possessed know He is the Son…
Matthew 8:29
And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?The disciples…
Matthew 14:33
Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.The centurion…
Matthew 27:54
Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.Mark…
Mark 1:1
The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;Unclean spirits…
Mark 3:11
And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.John the Baptist…
John 1:34
And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.Nathaneal…
John 1:49
Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.Jesus knew…
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 10:36
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?Martha knew…
John 11:27
She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.Charles…
WELL NOT YET!!!The point is I can go on and on with people that know Jesus is the SON of God and not GOD Himself. Even Jesus never claimed to be God. Never, not once!!! The Bible is clear…Jesus is the Son of God and therefor NOT God!!! The “scriptural truth” is stacked against you.
You do have some fascinating ideas. I am sure that you could even write a best selling fiction novel of the likes of The DaVinci Code. But, I do not see you teaching sound Biblical doctrine.
Quote (jb2u @ May 16 2013,18:09) You say “I cannot imagine the Father abiding directly in a soul, not equal to Himself.” This proves my point. You ignore scripture because you “cannot imagine it.” You should not “imagine” anything. Just read the scripture and pray for understanding!!
John 14:23 NET ©
Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he will obey my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and take up residence with him.I don't believe the above scripture means God Almighty will LITERALLY dwell inside the body of any human being. But then, what scripture says that God Almighty LITERALLY dwelled inside the human body of Jesus Christ?
God LITERALLY dwells in heaven, not on earth. And He LITERALLY dwells in “unapproachable light” – something I'm assuming is hotter than the sun, and therefore unable to exist within the body of a human being.
Here is the testimony. The Trinity Doctrine is designed to remove men from these truths.
John 14:28 (English-NIV)
“You heard me say, `I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.John 13:16 (English-NIV)
I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.John 6:29 (English NIV)
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”John 8:42 (English NIV)
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,10:25) Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2013,20:50) Hi Kerwin, Do you believe that Jesus can only be in one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Jesus is only in one place as a time. Mosses was his fore-type and while Moses stood with Joshua in one place the spirit that was on Moses went to rest on the Seventy elders that God chose. This bothered Joshua but Mosses expressed his hope that one day that same Spirit would come to rest on all God's children. God gave Jesus the authority to choose who would receive it and rule them through it. In this way Jesus lives in those that believe even though he is in one place at one time, just as Mosses was in his age.
Good stuff.Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2013,04:34) Quote (kerwin @ May 15 2013,20:38) Mike, Ecclesiastes 12:7
King James Version (KJV)7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Do you believe that the body of Adam is of the dust and the spirit of Adam come from the one that is above?
I am of the opinion you do believe those words but do not like them applied to 1 Corinthians 15:47-49.
Okay Kerwin,I'll indulge you for just a brief minute here.
1 Corinthians 15:45
“The first man Adam became a living soul”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.So first, the dust body of Adam became a living soul, right? How did this body of dust become a living soul BEFORE God added the “spirit Adam” to it?
Then, the “spirit Adam” BECAME a life-giving spirit. What does that mean, Kerwin? In what way has the spirit of the original Adam given life to anyone? Please explain.
Mike,That is a good point though I suspicion the answer involves Paul's use of the word “soulish' to mean mortal body.
It appears that in this way Adam's creation becomes a better likeness of the resurrection.
Quote (t8 @ May 17 2013,08:29) Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,10:25) Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2013,20:50) Hi Kerwin, Do you believe that Jesus can only be in one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Jesus is only in one place as a time. Mosses was his fore-type and while Moses stood with Joshua in one place the spirit that was on Moses went to rest on the Seventy elders that God chose. This bothered Joshua but Mosses expressed his hope that one day that same Spirit would come to rest on all God's children. God gave Jesus the authority to choose who would receive it and rule them through it. In this way Jesus lives in those that believe even though he is in one place at one time, just as Mosses was in his age.
Good stuff.
T8,It was inspired. Thank you!
Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,06:10) Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2013,20:50) Hi Kerwin, Do you believe that Jesus can only be in one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J
Ed,Jesus is only in one place as a time. Mosses was his fore-type and while Moses stood with Joshua in one place the spirit that was on Moses went to rest on the Seventy elders that God chose. This bothered Joshua but Mosses expressed his hope that one day that same Spirit would come to rest on all God's children. God gave Jesus the authority to choose who would receive it and rule them through it. In this way Jesus lives in those that believe even though he is in one place at one time, just as Mosses was in his age.
Hi Kerwin,So even though Jesus is “God's Son” – he doesn't have God qualities? – Is this verse not true?
“What he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19)Can YHVH not be in more than one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Jesus is like God in true holiness and righteousness and he is king of all things in heaven and earth but he is a creature and God is not.
Jesus has the Spirit working for him and that along gives him quite a lot of power. The angels and living beasts also do his bidding. God is still his Council and Ruler. That is more than enough to rule his kingdom.
Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,17:42) Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2013,06:10) Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2013,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ May 16 2013,20:50) Hi Kerwin, Do you believe that Jesus can only be in one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J
Ed,Jesus is only in one place as a time. Mosses was his fore-type and while Moses stood with Joshua in one place the spirit that was on Moses went to rest on the Seventy elders that God chose. This bothered Joshua but Mosses expressed his hope that one day that same Spirit would come to rest on all God's children. God gave Jesus the authority to choose who would receive it and rule them through it. In this way Jesus lives in those that believe even though he is in one place at one time, just as Mosses was in his age.
Hi Kerwin,So even though Jesus is “God's Son” – he doesn't have God qualities? – Is this verse not true?
“What he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” (John 5:19)Can YHVH not be in more than one place at a time?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,Jesus is like God in true holiness and righteousness and he is king of all things in heaven and earth but he is a creature and God is not.
Jesus has the Spirit working for him and that along gives him quite a lot of power. The angels and living beasts also do his bidding. God is still his Council and Ruler. That is more than enough to rule his kingdom.
So your answer is “No” then?Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 16 2013,17:11) Quote (jb2u @ May 16 2013,18:09) You say “I cannot imagine the Father abiding directly in a soul, not equal to Himself.” This proves my point. You ignore scripture because you “cannot imagine it.” You should not “imagine” anything. Just read the scripture and pray for understanding!!
John 14:23 NET ©
Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he will obey my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and take up residence with him.I don't believe the above scripture means God Almighty will LITERALLY dwell inside the body of any human being. But then, what scripture says that God Almighty LITERALLY dwelled inside the human body of Jesus Christ?
God LITERALLY dwells in heaven, not on earth. And He LITERALLY dwells in “unapproachable light” – something I'm assuming is hotter than the sun, and therefore unable to exist within the body of a human being.
Hi Mike,Gal.4:4 [There is] one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling;
5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 ONE GOD and Father of all who is OVER all and THROUGH all and IN all.who is OVER all and THROUGH all and IN all.
Where can I hide from HIM?
Peace brother……….
kerwin,May wrote:[/quote]
Quote Jesus body was mortal and flesh and blood before he sacrificed and was resurrected himself Kerwin,
I must clarify:
All matter was spirit at one stage!
Now there are two ways for a spirit to become MATTER!
EITHER THROUGH GOD'S WISDOM! Which is non mortal! Since it is of God! Good!
OR THROUGH EVIL CONCEPT! Which is mortal! Since it is evil !
WE OURSELVES, ARE THE RESULT OF THE EVIL CONCEPT FROM LUCIFER AND HIS ANGELS! MORTAL!
JESUS BECAME FLESH THROUGH GOD'S WISDOM, BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHEN HE CONCEIVED MARY! NON MORTAL!
NOW MATTER WHICH ORIGINATED THROUGH EVIL CONCEPT MUST BE ERADICATED COMPLETELY AND BECOME DUST!LIKE WE EVENTUALLY BECOME!
MATTER WHICH ORIGINATED THROUGH GOD'S WISDOM RETURNS TO GOD WITHOUT ANY KIND OF ERADICATION! OR POSTPONMENT LIKE JESUS CHRIST DID!
SIMPLY REVERS HIMSELF INTO SPIRIT IN ANY WAY FEELS FIT!
JESUS DID THIS WHILE ON EARTH BEFORE HE WAS CRUCUFIED!
THE REASON THAT HE HAD TO BE CRUCIFIED, ONLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE HAD TO REDEEM HUMANITY, AND HAD TO REVERSE HIS FLESH BODY INTO A SPIRITUAL ONE, THROUGH A PROCESS WHICH IT SEEMED NORMAL DEATH!
BUT IN REALITY, SINCE THE FLESH WAS GOD'S SPIRIT, THE SON'S, HIS OWN EX SPIRIT,THEREFORE NON MORTAL, JESUS HIMSLEF STARTED THE SPIRITUAL PROCESS WHLE HE WAS STILL ALIVE, EXACTLY IN THE LAST SUPPER!
John 2:19 ……………. Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
So since he himself raised his FLESH BODY up, HE HIMSLEF COMMENCED THE PROCESS BEFORE HE DIED!
SO WHEN JESUS DIED, HE WAS SIMPLY WITHIN THE SPIRITUAL PROCESS OF HIS BODY, THEREFORE HE CONTINUED WHAT HE HAD ALREADY STARTED PREVIOUSLY!
THEREFORE THE BODY WAS AT WORK, THROUGH HIS OWN SPIRIT WHICH LEFT SATAN'S BEFORE HE DIED, IN THE LAST SUPPER!
AND IF JESUS WAS TO BE LEFT ON THE CROSS LIKE THE OTHERS, HIS BODY WOULD HAVE STARTED TO PRODUCE THE LIGHT WITHIN ITSELF IN FRONT OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE PRESENT!
EVERYTHING WAS WELL PLANNED TO MAKE SURE THAT JESUS' BODY WOULD BE HIDDEN IN A GRAVE, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AS SOON AS HE DIES, IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE TRUTH REGARDING JESUS' REAL IDENTITY!
SO JESUS' BODY NEVER HAD ANY KIND OF POSTPONMENT,HE SIMPLY CONTINUED THE SPIRITUAL PROCESS WHICH HE STARTED IN THE LAST SUPPER! THEREFORE HE NEVER DIED THE SAME DEATH AS WE DIE!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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