No one could answer him

[Wakeup]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 10 2013,04:59)

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2013,15:58) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,11:13) Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 09 2013,11:01) Boditharta. Angels are gods;we are gods,but NOT worshipped by true christians,only catholics. Devils in idols are false to us,but true gods to pagans. There are many false gods worshipped. God said it himself; they worship false gods. wakeup. What does the word False mean? Boditharta. False like; allah is Jehovah,this is false. wakeup. When you say that is false what proof do you bring other than your own disapproval and speculation? Let's see if we can get to the bottom of this: As far as you know has there been any claims of divine beings claiming to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Who would Allah be then that calls Jesus The Christ calls Satan an outcast and asks men to submit to righteous moral behaviour

Boditharta.

I hope you are not getting uptight here.

Matthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 22:32 *I am the God of Abraham*, and the *God of Isaac*, and the *God of Jacob*? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

Instead of me trying to proof,why not you proof to us that allah is Jehovah.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 08 2013,14:07)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2013,17:40) Can you show me this “false god” thing you're talking about in scripture, Asana?  Because I'm quite sure there is no such thing in scripture as a “false god”. Deuteronomy 32:17 They sacrificed to false gods, which are not God— gods they had not known, gods that recently appeared, gods your ancestors did not fear. Psalm 4:2 How long will you people turn my glory into shame? How long will you love delusions and seek false gods? Psalm 106:37 They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to false gods. Jeremiah 13:25 This is your lot, the portion I have decreed for you,” declares the Lord, “because you have forgotten me and trusted in false gods. Amos 2:4 This is what the Lord says: “For three sins of Judah, even for four, I will not relent. Because they have rejected the law of the Lord and have not kept his decrees, because they have been led astray by false gods, the gods their ancestors followed, Now just to let you understand what I am saying in other versions “False gods” are interpreted as devils Deuteronomy 32:17 (KJ21) | In Context | Whole Chapter 17 They sacrificed unto devils, not to God, to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.

Not one of those scriptures you listed says “false god” in the Hebrew text.  In fact, the HEBREW TEXT of Psalm 106:37 says they sacrificed their sons and daughters to DEMONS. Deuteronomy 32:17, that you listed, confirms as much.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 08 2013,14:07)

Now you consider “Demons and Devils” to be gods and that is where Ignorance comes in. If false gods can be translated as demons or devils then devils are not Actual gods.

The fact that many Trinitarian translators render the Hebrew words for “lies”, “worthless things” and “demons” as “false gods” doesn't mean that they are ACCURATE translations. These Trinitarians WANT you to believe there literally exists only ONE god, Asana.  They want you to believe this so when you read that Jesus is called a god in scripture, you will be blinded into believing he must BE that ONE god.

Even though you are not a Trinitarian, you have taken their bait – hook, line, and sinker.

Please don't allow the INACCURATE translation “false god” convince you of things that aren't true.  There is no such term as “false god” in the entire Hebrew or Greek scriptures.  This term was ADDED by men who wanted you to believe that Jesus is the Most High God.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 08 2013,14:07)

Supernatural does not equal to being God if that isthe case ALL the angels are gods too is that what you think?

Yes.  Angels are frequently called gods in scripture.  They are not the MOST HIGH God who created them.  But they are indeed gods – scripturally speaking.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,11:59)

As far as you know has there been any claims of divine beings claiming to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

Asana,

If your Allah is truly the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then the NAME of your God is YHWH.

Allah is the Arabic word for “the god”. So while we call Him “Jehovah God”, you can call Him “Jehovah Allah”.

Will you do that?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:59)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,11:59) As far as you know has there been any claims of divine beings claiming to be the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Asana, If your Allah is truly the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then the NAME of your God is YHWH. Allah is the Arabic word for “the god”.  So while we call Him “Jehovah God”, you can call Him “Jehovah Allah”. Will you do that?

Interesing you should say that because I already have.

You see the Name Jehovah or Yahweh means the “One that causes to be” and ALLAH means “The God”

So yes, “The One that Causes to be” is “The God”

Jehovah Hu Allah

or any of these renditions would work below:

It is connected to the passage in Exodus 3:14 in which God gives his name as אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh), translated most basically as “I am that I am” (or “I Will Be What I Will Be”, “I Will Be What I Am”). יהוה with the vocalization “Yahweh” could theoretically be a hif'il (causative) verb inflection of root HWH, with a meaning something like “he who causes to exist” or “who gives life” (the root idea of the word being “to breathe”, and hence, “to live”).[7] As a qal (basic stem) verb inflection, it could mean “he who is, who exists”.[6]

This is why ALLAH meaning “THE GOD” with the deinite article is so important to me “I will be what I will be” and who is that “The GOD”

There is none else

[bodhitharta]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:54)

Yes.  Angels are frequently called gods in scripture.  They are not the MOST HIGH God who created them.  But they are indeed gods – scripturally speaking.

That makes no sense because it is forbidden to believe that Jesus is the same God he Worshipped.

If you believe in other gods, that is fine, as I said before it's good for me to know that while having a discussion with you.

I don't know of any other gods there is only “The God” and His Creations.

When I showed you scripture where GOD HIMSELF IS SAYING:

Isaiah 44:8
Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.”

Is God HIMSELF misinformed and you correct?

Romans 3:4
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

So which is right you or GOD speaking HIMSELF?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,18:18)

That makes no sense because it is forbidden to believe that Jesus is the same God he Worshipped.

I don't believe Jesus is the same God he worshiped.  I am aligned with the Apostle Paul, Asana.  Like him, I understand there are indeed many gods, both in heaven and on earth, but only one of them is my own God.  That one is the Father alone.  He alone created me.  

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,18:18)

When I showed you scripture where GOD HIMSELF IS SAYING: Isaiah 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.” Is God HIMSELF misinformed and you correct?

That is a great scripture for proving my point, Asana.

The Hebrew word “tsuwr” (rock) is used 73 times in the OT.  Only about 10 of those times does the word refer to Jehovah.  So the other 63 times it is used prove that there are indeed other “rocks” in existence.  

The rock from which Moses brought the water is one example.  Obviously, Moses didn't bang on Jehovah with his staff, causing water to flow out of Jehovah, right?

The rock Jehovah placed Moses on when He allowed Moses to see His glory pass by is another example.  Surely Jehovah didn't stand Moses on HIMSELF while He passed by, right?

So, knowing that there do indeed exist MANY rocks, how do YOU explain Jehovah saying that there is NO rock besides Himself?

A.  Jehovah, knowing full well that there exist many rocks, was speaking EMPHATICALLY, placing Himself as the ULTIMATE refuge to which the Israelites can run and hide?

B.  Jehovah was misinformed, and seriously thought that He was LITERALLY the ONLY rock in existence?

C.  Jehovah flat out LIED to us by saying He was the ONLY rock, when He knew full well that there are many others?

D. Jehovah literally IS the ONLY rock in existence, and all other rocks are “false rocks”, and “no rocks at all”?

Which one is the right one, Asana?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,18:09)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:59) Asana, If your Allah is truly the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then the NAME of your God is YHWH. Allah is the Arabic word for “the god”.  So while we call Him “Jehovah God”, you can call Him “Jehovah Allah”. Interesing you should say that because I already have. You see the Name Jehovah or Yahweh means the “One that causes to be” and ALLAH means “The God”

Okay then. We are on the same page. What you're saying is that in the Arabic language, Jehovah Allah is the Most High God. In Spanish, it is Jehovah Dios. In Greek, it is Jehovah Theos. In Hebrew, it is Jehovah El.

And in ENGLISH, it is Jehovah God.

So since you are speaking to us all in ENGLISH, why insist on using the ARABIC word for god, when you could just say that your God is Jehovah God?

This “Allah VERSUS Jehovah” understanding is what makes many people think you have a DIFFERENT God than we have. Just call your God Jehovah, or Yahweh, or YHWH from now on, and we'll all be on the same track.

[Wakeup]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 10 2013,11:18)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:54) Yes.  Angels are frequently called gods in scripture.  They are not the MOST HIGH God who created them.  But they are indeed gods – scripturally speaking. That makes no sense because it is forbidden to believe that Jesus is the same God he Worshipped. If you believe in other gods, that is fine, as I said before it's good for me to know that while having a discussion with you. I don't know of any other gods there is only “The God” and His Creations. When I showed you scripture where GOD HIMSELF IS SAYING: Isaiah 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.” Is God HIMSELF misinformed and you correct? Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. So which is right you or GOD speaking HIMSELF?

Boditharta.

Do you believe Jesus words; he said,
you can see them by their fruits.

1. *True* followers of christ will behave like their master.

2.Muslems behave like their master.
Ishma'el *mocked*,muslims are mockers too.

Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against *every man*, and every *man's hand against him*; and he shall dwell *in the presence of all his brethren*.

**Not in the presence of God**.

wakeup.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,09:27)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 10 2013,11:18) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:54) Yes.  Angels are frequently called gods in scripture.  They are not the MOST HIGH God who created them.  But they are indeed gods – scripturally speaking. That makes no sense because it is forbidden to believe that Jesus is the same God he Worshipped. If you believe in other gods, that is fine, as I said before it's good for me to know that while having a discussion with you. I don't know of any other gods there is only “The God” and His Creations. When I showed you scripture where GOD HIMSELF IS SAYING: Isaiah 44:8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.” Is God HIMSELF misinformed and you correct? Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. So which is right you or GOD speaking HIMSELF? Boditharta. Do you believe Jesus words; he said, you can see them by their fruits. 1. *True* followers of christ will behave like their master. 2.Muslems behave like their master. Ishma'el *mocked*,muslims are mockers too. Genesis 16:12   And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against *every man*, and every *man's hand against him*; and he shall dwell *in the presence of all his brethren*. **Not in the presence of God**. wakeup.

You have huge misunderstanding but on thing is for sure fruitful ventures grow strong because their root are strong Islam is outpacing Christianity and Christianity hashad a 600 year headstart andthe fruits of Christianity have been rotting with endless strife and hatred amongst each other thousands of denominations and no UNITY.

You would have to be blind not to see the AMAZING amount of blessing that have come to those of the Muslim Faith. Over a BILLION people praying everyday together ou could barely get a few thousand Chritians to pary for anything in agreemnt but EVERYDAY over aBILLION people pray that the will of God to be done. MIGHTY Countries come against there tiny countries and armies and they fight for years and years against unbeatable odds but sill make it through, the evil ones that have don wrong get taken out but the faith and th people who did no wrong REMAIN this is the work of GOD ALMIGHTY!

[bodhitharta]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2013,09:24)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,18:09) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:59) Asana, If your Allah is truly the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then the NAME of your God is YHWH. Allah is the Arabic word for “the god”.  So while we call Him “Jehovah God”, you can call Him “Jehovah Allah”. Interesing you should say that because I already have. You see the Name Jehovah or Yahweh means the “One that causes to be” and ALLAH means “The God” Okay then.  We are on the same page.  What you're saying is that in the Arabic language, Jehovah Allah is the Most High God.  In Spanish, it is Jehovah Dios.  In Greek, it is Jehovah Theos.  In Hebrew, it is Jehovah El. And in ENGLISH, it is Jehovah God. So since you are speaking to us all in ENGLISH, why insist on using the ARABIC word for god, when you could just say that your God is Jehovah God? This “Allah VERSUS Jehovah” understanding is what makes many people think you have a DIFFERENT God than we have.  Just call your God Jehovah, or Yahweh, or YHWH from now on, and we'll all be on the same track.

Two reasons first of all none of us here speak like tht usually we all opt in for just saying God, second “ALLAH” is not like saying dios or theos becausethose are generic like the word God in Arabic ALLAH is a literal personal noun and it is not used in general or in a plural sense it is a specific distinction of THE ONLY GOD there is.

So the only way I could say that in english would b to always say “The God” using the definite article. When I say “THE GOD” of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob…etc There can be no confusion there is no other God. YHWH is not a name perse it is a nature you see with God His name is His nature:

Exodus 34:14

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

14 for ye do not bow yourselves to another god — for Jehovah, whose name [is] Zealous, is a zealous God.

So is his name “Zealous” or not some translations read “jealous”

“In the name of God, most Gracious, most Compassionate”.

So do you think If I prayed to th Most Graciou and Most merciful God that there could be another to fit th description?

I AM A MONOTHEIST

Colter has hundreds of Gods and yet they couldn't forsee the united states having more than 48 states within a decade of its writing

[bodhitharta]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2013,09:24)

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,18:09) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:59) Asana, If your Allah is truly the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then the NAME of your God is YHWH. Allah is the Arabic word for “the god”.  So while we call Him “Jehovah God”, you can call Him “Jehovah Allah”. Interesing you should say that because I already have. You see the Name Jehovah or Yahweh means the “One that causes to be” and ALLAH means “The God” Okay then.  We are on the same page.  What you're saying is that in the Arabic language, Jehovah Allah is the Most High God.  In Spanish, it is Jehovah Dios.  In Greek, it is Jehovah Theos.  In Hebrew, it is Jehovah El. And in ENGLISH, it is Jehovah God. So since you are speaking to us all in ENGLISH, why insist on using the ARABIC word for god, when you could just say that your God is Jehovah God? This “Allah VERSUS Jehovah” understanding is what makes many people think you have a DIFFERENT God than we have.  Just call your God Jehovah, or Yahweh, or YHWH from now on, and we'll all be on the same track.

Mike, let me ask you this if you lived in a community and you were married to a woman so that she was your wife and all the other couples were male homosexuals one taking the masculine postion the other the feminine position so they would also call their spouses wives as well,

Would you say that in that community you all have wives or would you say that in reality you are the only one with a WIFE and there are no other wives in that community?

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 12 2013,09:36)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2013,09:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,18:09) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:59) Asana, If your Allah is truly the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then the NAME of your God is YHWH. Allah is the Arabic word for “the god”.  So while we call Him “Jehovah God”, you can call Him “Jehovah Allah”. Interesing you should say that because I already have. You see the Name Jehovah or Yahweh means the “One that causes to be” and ALLAH means “The God” Okay then.  We are on the same page.  What you're saying is that in the Arabic language, Jehovah Allah is the Most High God.  In Spanish, it is Jehovah Dios.  In Greek, it is Jehovah Theos.  In Hebrew, it is Jehovah El. And in ENGLISH, it is Jehovah God. So since you are speaking to us all in ENGLISH, why insist on using the ARABIC word for god, when you could just say that your God is Jehovah God? This “Allah VERSUS Jehovah” understanding is what makes many people think you have a DIFFERENT God than we have.  Just call your God Jehovah, or Yahweh, or YHWH from now on, and we'll all be on the same track.   Mike, let me ask you this if you lived in a community and you were married to a woman so that she was your wife and all the other couples were male homosexuals one taking the masculine postion the other the feminine position so they would also call their spouses wives as well, Would you say that in that community you all have wives or would you say that in reality you are the only one with a WIFE and there are no other wives in that community?

Bod

You are sick, I would never move to a community that perverted,

[Wakeup]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 12 2013,14:36)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2013,09:24) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 09 2013,18:09) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2013,10:59) Asana, If your Allah is truly the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, then the NAME of your God is YHWH. Allah is the Arabic word for “the god”.  So while we call Him “Jehovah God”, you can call Him “Jehovah Allah”. Interesing you should say that because I already have. You see the Name Jehovah or Yahweh means the “One that causes to be” and ALLAH means “The God” Okay then.  We are on the same page.  What you're saying is that in the Arabic language, Jehovah Allah is the Most High God.  In Spanish, it is Jehovah Dios.  In Greek, it is Jehovah Theos.  In Hebrew, it is Jehovah El. And in ENGLISH, it is Jehovah God. So since you are speaking to us all in ENGLISH, why insist on using the ARABIC word for god, when you could just say that your God is Jehovah God? This “Allah VERSUS Jehovah” understanding is what makes many people think you have a DIFFERENT God than we have.  Just call your God Jehovah, or Yahweh, or YHWH from now on, and we'll all be on the same track.   Mike, let me ask you this if you lived in a community and you were married to a woman so that she was your wife and all the other couples were male homosexuals one taking the masculine postion the other the feminine position so they would also call their spouses wives as well, Would you say that in that community you all have wives or would you say that in reality you are the only one with a WIFE and there are no other wives in that community?

Boditharta.

They can call those two man husband and wife
if they like,but thats their own interpretation.
In Gods eyes they are not husband and wife,
but confusion.Sodom and Gomorah.

A key is a key,and a key hole is a key hole.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 11 2013,21:32)

Colter has hundreds of Gods and yet they couldn't forsee the united states having more than 48 states within a decade of its writing.

The UB specifically speaks of the 48 united states?  I wasn't aware of that.  

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 11 2013,21:32)

So the only way I could say that in english would b to always say “The God” using the definite article.

That's how they often talked in Greek and Hebrew.  They would use the definite article to let the reader know they were talking about the god.

In English, when we cap the “G” in “God”, we are saying “the god”.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 11 2013,21:36)

Mike, let me ask you this if you lived in a community and you were married to a woman so that she was your wife and all the other couples were male homosexuals one taking the masculine postion the other the feminine position so they would also call their spouses wives as well, Would you say that in that community you all have wives or would you say that in reality you are the only one with a WIFE and there are no other wives in that community?

So in your analogy, MY God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not THE God, but YOUR Allah of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is THE Allah?

Asana, how does the Arabic OT translate Deut 10:17?

Jehovah your Allah is Allah of………………. ?

[Spock]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 13 2013,03:05)

Quote The UB specifically speaks of the 48 united states?  I wasn't aware of that.

The UB was printed in 55, Alaska and Hawaii didn't become states until 59. But you werent aware of that either.

Silly factual errors in the fetish book supposedly written by God:

1 Kings 7:23 “He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.”

Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means that the Bible is saying that Pi() = 3. A strict literalist who believes a perfect God would allow no error must admit that in this case their perfect God is allowing some pretty sloppy approximations. How sloppy does it have to be before it’s just wrong?

Lev 11:20-21: “All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.”

Fowl do not go upon all four.

Lev 11:6: “And the hare, because he cheweth the cud…”

Hare do not chew the cud.

Deut 14:7: ” “…as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof.”

This is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and camels do divide the “hoof.”

Jonah 1:17 says, “…Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights”

Matt 12:40 says “…Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly…” whales and fish are not related

Matt 13:31-32: ” “the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree.”

There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don’t grow into trees.

Matt 4:8: ” Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them.”

Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.

For those and many other errors in the current and most commonly referenced Bible book list, click here:    
Bible Errors and Contradicitions

Colter

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Colter @ Sep. 13 2013,04:09)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 13 2013,03:05) Quote The UB specifically speaks of the 48 united states?  I wasn't aware of that.   The UB was printed in 55, Alaska and Hawaii didn't become states until 59. But you werent aware of that either. Silly factual errors in the fetish book supposedly written by God: 1 Kings 7:23 “He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.” Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means that the Bible is saying that Pi() = 3. A strict literalist who believes a perfect God would allow no error must admit that in this case their perfect God is allowing some pretty sloppy approximations. How sloppy does it have to be before it’s just wrong? Lev 11:20-21: “All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.” Fowl do not go upon all four. Lev 11:6: “And the hare, because he cheweth the cud…” Hare do not chew the cud. Deut 14:7: ” “…as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof.” This is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and camels do divide the “hoof.” Jonah 1:17 says, “…Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights” Matt 12:40 says “…Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly…” whales and fish are not related Matt 13:31-32: ” “the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree.” There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don’t grow into trees. Matt 4:8: ” Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them.” Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth. For those and many other errors in the current and most commonly referenced Bible book list, click here:     Bible Errors and Contradicitions Colter

Let's start here:

we must keep this in mind that the law gave to the Israelites the ability to determine clean and unclean in the context in which they lived, and since they did not at that time have the ability to engage in comparative internal anatomy through the use of modern scientific research, the law had to provide them with a means of identification fit to their circumstances. For example, in the case of the rabbit it appears to the sight to chew the cud, hence the description. In the same fashion, the camel's hoof has a large sole that is cushioned and soft in contrast to those that have hard, clearly distinguished splits. The issue is observation, not taxonomy. As noted in one commentary:

Animals that chew the cud but do not have a split hoof are excluded as food: e.g., the camel … the hyrax or rock-badger … the hare … and the pig … Although the camel has a split hoof, its sole is thick and cushiony so that the split does not appear (Baentsch, 35). Incidentally, the Arabs offered the camel as a sacrifice, and the camel was eaten throughout the Middle East; but because it was such a valuable animal, its meat was considered a luxury (Simoons, Eat Not This Flesh, 88). Some venerated parts of the camel are still employed as medicine and in magic. Other groups like the Israelites avoided eating the camel. The hyrax is mentioned here, for while it does not technically chew the cud, its manner of continuous chewing is quite similar to that of a ruminant… is often taken to be the rabbit or the hare, but Bare (Plants and Animals, 98) identifies it with the rock-badger or hyrax. It may reach a weight of six to eight pounds (Cansdale, Animals, 130). It likes to eat leaves, roots, and locusts… is the hare, which is larger than a rabbit and lives above ground. Cansdale (131) identifies the hare’s chewing the cud with its habit of “refection,” i.e., at certain times of the day it eats its moist droppings. The hare was considered by some as a holy animal; parts from its body were made into amulets. The pig … is also excluded for, even though it has a split hoof, it does not ruminate. A solid hoof excludes animals like the horse and the donkey. Other animals forbidden are the dog, the cat, and the bear (v 22). (Hartley, J. E. (1998). Vol. 4: Word Biblical Commentary: Leviticus (electronic ed.). Logos Library System; Word Biblical Commentary. Dallas: Word, Incorporated.; bold and underline emphasis ours)

and then let's go here:

Jesus was not comparing the mustard seed to all other seeds in the world, but to seeds that a local, Palestinian farmer might have “sowed in his field,” i.e., a key qualifying phrase in verse 31. And it’s absolutely true that the black mustard seed (Brassica nigra = Sinapis nigra) was the smallest seed ever sown by a first-century farmer in that part of the world.

It’s also true, as many modern-day encyclopedias will tell you, that the black mustard seed in Israel will typically grow to heights of 3.7 meters, or 12 (twelve) feet—plenty large enough to hold a bird nest.

It’s important to remember that the Bible often uses everyday terminology in order to communicate simple truth. Even today, we might refer to a “sunset” when, technically, scientifically, we know that the sun never actually “sets,” i.e., it’s the earth that revolves.

Now I can go on but why can you not explain how the Urantia Book did not know that Alaska or Hawaii would be astate especially since Hawaii was lined up to be a state since around 1947 almost a decade before the publishing of the Urantia Papers.

No authentic religious book gives such a huge platform for Satan even saying that the worlds are called Satania. There is a large dedication to Satan all throgh the work of the UB even denying the existence of Hell or punishment

[bodhitharta]

The Urantia Book

Paper 131

The World’s Religions

This is the ultimate proof that the Urantia Book didnot come from an other worldly source

Their list of world religions does not include Islam at all

1. Cynicism
2. Judaism
3. Buddhism
4. Hinduism
5. Zoroastrianism
6. Suduanism (Jainism)
7. Shinto
8. Taoism
9. Confucianism
10. “Our Religion”

GAME OVER, no being from any Planet existing would not be aware of the Magnitude of Islam unless you are some intellectuals in the 50's that are simply not aware of Islam to speak intelligently on it

Islam in America

1910-1950

1910-1950 saw several Orthodox Sufi, Ahmadiyyah, Bahia, Shia, and so-called Black Nationalists groups arise. To speed the process I will talk about the Orthodox Mosques (in Ross, N.D., Detroit, and in Cedar Rapids, Iowa), Sheikh Dawood, Sufi Abdul Hamid, Noble Drew Ali, and Elijah Muhammad.

In historical order, the Ross Mosque is the earliest and longest lasting Masjid in America. The congregation at its largest was 100 persons. The Masjid was built in 1930 and remained standing until 1978 and in use till the late 60's when conversions and mixed marriages had decreased the numbers of Muslims till a point where Arabic was no longer used, the cemetery had gophers, and there were no practicing Muslims to attend Juma.

An earlier mosque was built in 1915 in Maine by Albanians as was one in Connecticut, but they are not as strongly documented or publicized. In Brooklyn the Polish speaking Tatars built a mosque which was still in use in 1926. The Red Crescent was founded in Detroit, in 1920 and a Mosque was built there which lasted from 1926-1932 and as far as I know still stands. The main problem at that point was not lack of numbers but lack of finance. Only a few brothers kept the Masjid afloat and the Depression proved it to be too much of financial liability for them. The Lebanese Masjid in Cedar Rapids, started in 1935 and still in operation, suffered few of these problems. Going overseas to marry was common, Arabic was widely used, finance was freer, and fewer persons drifted from Islam.

how could other worldly beings with a global view have such an Americanized local view of what is now arguably the worlds largest religion and certainly the most talked about yet thisgrand planet council KNEW NOTHING

[Wakeup]

Quote (Colter @ Sep. 13 2013,04:09)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 13 2013,03:05) Quote The UB specifically speaks of the 48 united states?  I wasn't aware of that.   The UB was printed in 55, Alaska and Hawaii didn't become states until 59. But you werent aware of that either. Silly factual errors in the fetish book supposedly written by God: 1 Kings 7:23 “He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.” Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means that the Bible is saying that Pi() = 3. A strict literalist who believes a perfect God would allow no error must admit that in this case their perfect God is allowing some pretty sloppy approximations. How sloppy does it have to be before it’s just wrong? Lev 11:20-21: “All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.” Fowl do not go upon all four. Lev 11:6: “And the hare, because he cheweth the cud…” Hare do not chew the cud. Deut 14:7: ” “…as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof.” This is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and camels do divide the “hoof.” Jonah 1:17 says, “…Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights” Matt 12:40 says “…Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly…” whales and fish are not related Matt 13:31-32: ” “the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree.” There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don’t grow into trees. Matt 4:8: ” Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them.” Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth. For those and many other errors in the current and most commonly referenced Bible book list, click here:     Bible Errors and Contradicitions Colter

Colter.

You are good at picking mistakes that are not there,
but because of your misunderstanding.

QUOTE:
Silly factual errors in the fetish book supposedly written by God:
1 Kings 7:23 “He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.”
Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means that the Bible is saying that Pi() = 3. A strict literalist who believes a perfect God would allow no error must admit that in this case their perfect God is allowing some pretty sloppy approximations. How sloppy does it have to be before it’s just wrong?UNQUOTE:

THIS IS SIMPLY A BOWL WITH A LARGE RIM AROUND IT.

QUOTE:
Lev 11:20-21: “All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.”
Fowl do not go upon all four.UNQUOTE:

THIS IS SIMPLY SUCH AS THE FLYING(LEEPING LIZARSD). IT MENTIONS THE WORD LEEP.
THE BAT WALKED ON FOUR.

QUOTE:
Lev 11:6: “And the hare, because he cheweth the cud…”
Hare do not chew the cud.
Deut 14:7: ” “…as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof.”
This is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and camels do divide the “hoof.”UNQUOTE.

THIS MUST BE A COPYING ERROR.
Leviticus 11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is *clovenfooted*, and *cheweth the cud*, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

Jonah 1:17 says, “…Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights”
Matt 12:40 says “…Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly…” whales and fish are not related.

TO THEM A WHALE IS A LARGE FISH,MAYBE NOT TO US
SMART ALECKS.

QUOTE:
Matt 13:31-32: ” “the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree.”
There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don’t grow into trees.UNQUOTE:

TO US A TREE GROWS UP TO 30 METERS,
BUT IS IT TO THEM? A PLANT IS ALSO A TREE TO THEM.

QUOTE:
Matt 4:8: ” Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them.”
Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.UNQUOTE:

THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN IN THE AREA IS MOUNT HERMON; AND JESUS WAS SHOWN A *VISION* OF SATANS FURURE KINGDOMS.
YOUR REASONING IS INVALID.

wakeup.

[Spock]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 13 2013,11:26)

The Urantia Book Paper 131 The World’s Religions This is the ultimate proof that the Urantia Book didnot come from an other worldly source Their list of world religions does not include Islam at all 1. Cynicism 2. Judaism 3. Buddhism 4. Hinduism 5. Zoroastrianism 6. Suduanism (Jainism) 7. Shinto 8. Taoism 9. Confucianism 10. “Our Religion” GAME OVER, no being from any Planet existing would not be aware of the Magnitude of Islam unless you are some intellectuals in the 50's that are simply not aware of Islam to speak intelligently on it Islam in America 1910-1950 1910-1950 saw several Orthodox Sufi, Ahmadiyyah, Bahia, Shia, and so-called Black Nationalists groups arise. To speed the process I will talk about the Orthodox Mosques (in Ross, N.D., Detroit, and in Cedar Rapids, Iowa), Sheikh Dawood, Sufi Abdul Hamid, Noble Drew Ali, and Elijah Muhammad. In historical order, the Ross Mosque is the earliest and longest lasting Masjid in America. The congregation at its largest was 100 persons. The Masjid was built in 1930 and remained standing until 1978 and in use till the late 60's when conversions and mixed marriages had decreased the numbers of Muslims till a point where Arabic was no longer used, the cemetery had gophers, and there were no practicing Muslims to attend Juma. An earlier mosque was built in 1915 in Maine by Albanians as was one in Connecticut, but they are not as strongly documented or publicized. In Brooklyn the Polish speaking Tatars built a mosque which was still in use in 1926. The Red Crescent was founded in Detroit, in 1920 and a Mosque was built there which lasted from 1926-1932 and as far as I know still stands. The main problem at that point was not lack of numbers but lack of finance. Only a few brothers kept the Masjid afloat and the Depression proved it to be too much of financial liability for them. The Lebanese Masjid in Cedar Rapids, started in 1935 and still in operation, suffered few of these problems. Going overseas to marry was common, Arabic was widely used, finance was freer, and fewer persons drifted from Islam. how could other worldly beings with a global view have such an Americanized local view of what is now arguably the worlds largest religion and certainly the most talked about yet thisgrand planet council KNEW NOTHING

LoL! What an idiot, doing searches in a book you haven read, then drawing wrong conclusions and using those as arguments! The list you cited is from the Jesus story, he and Ganid compiled a list of scriptures from the worlds religions….600 YEARS BEFORE ISLAM!!!!!

So yea, they didn't include the Quaran  

Game over

Colter

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