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Nick,
I am look at a different version of Luke 1:35 and I am not seeing the same words. The AV of the KJV and others use the “therefore also” choice but there are other variations of it. It is not solid evidence but I have not looked into why the translator of your chosen version made the choice of translation they did.
Nick……What is the reason you seem to dislike of our human flesh bodies?, they are vehicles we live in, even GOD SAYS OUR BODIES ARE TEMPLES HE LIVES IN ALSO. OR HAVEN’T YOU READ
1Cor 6:15 ……know you not that your “BODIES” are the menbers of Christ. And 1 Cor 6:19 “What, know you no that your “BODY” is the temple of the HOLY SPIRIT, which is “in” you, which you have of GOD, and you are not your own? 29, FOR you were brought with a price: therefore glorfy God in your “BODY” “AND”, in your Spirit”.
Another words the complete you , you body and spirit, your complete being or living soul .
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Kerwin. …..The implication in scripture is that GOD did actually Physically Father JESUS in the womb of Mary. He supplied the male DNA. THEREFORE Jesus is the “only” physical human being ever begotten of God himself in all humanity, the only true human “born” son of GOD, and he is also, the human anointed one, or MESSIAH OF GOD, which he became at the Jordan river. Who after his anointing was sent out into the world to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God.
peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
To all…..the way GABRIEL SPOKE concerning JESUS, ALSO PROVES Jesus was not a preexisting being, notice how he said “that” holy thing, which “shall” be born of you, “shall be” called the son of GOD”.
Now if Jesus was already a preexisting SON OF GOD , then Gabriel would not have said he “shall” be called a son of God , because he would already been a son of GOD . He also said “that holy, “thing” that also shows he did not reconize JESUS as any preexisting being.
peace and love to you all and yours………….gene
Hi KW,
Dislike?
No.
Every man loves his own body.
But man prefers to worship man rather than the Lord God of Israel.
Hi GB.
Eph 5.29
For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. For we are members of His body, of His flesh.
But complacency and vanity leads men to lose touch with the head of that Body.
Hi GB,
They prefer their own ideas-such as intellect is spirit-to reliance on what is revealed.
Failing to feed on the Word they cut themselves off from the head.
Hi GB,
Col2 .19
And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
You have to HOLD ONTO THE HEAD
Nick,
So you cannot make your mind up what it means?
You chose a translation that was in the minority of the ones I looked not did it line up to the Koine Greek in the same way. I know that God has no DNA of his own because he is not a creation but I do not know why translations chose the words they did. I doubt their reasons are important.
Gene,
According to my knowledge of science genetic manipulation would have to be performed in order for a male to come from a female without the male gender chromosome coming from from a father. God has not trouble changing the code in a human cell as he is the one than designed the program in the first place. He can also cause any cell in the body to divide and reproduce.
Alternatively he could use artificial insemination, even to placing the King David’ male gametes in suspended animation for centuries before using them.
The bottom line is that he does not have his own DNA as he is not a creation.
Nick,
The NASB is derived from the ASB which translates:
Luke 1:35American Standard Version (ASV)
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow thee: wherefore also the holy thing which is begotten shall be called the Son of God.
Its sister version is the RSV and translates it as follows.
Luke 1:35Revised Standard Version (RSV)
35 And the angel said to her,
“The Holy Spirit will come upon you,
and the power of the Most High will overshadow you;
therefore the child to be born[a] will be called holy,
the Son of God.
Footnotes:Luke 1:35 Other ancient authorities add of you
From what I see some versions seem to view the “also” as unnecessary.
Nick…..”and the head of Christ Jesus is GOD. ” that is the head that all things come from including Jesus the Christ, And that head is pure intellegence or light which enlightens our minds, and offeres his intellegent thinking to us who are lead by his “intellegent” spirit, which transfers his ‘intellegent understanding to “enlighting” our minds. GOD IS PURE INTELLEGENT SPIRIT . Makes no difference if you ubderstand that or not, it dosn’t change anything, but it does show you ignorance. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. …………..gene
Hi GB,
You do not take these teachings from the Head.
They do not appear in scripture.
In these matters you are your own head-separate from the Lord.
Nick,
I understand the angel to be telling Mary that in the future her child will be called the Son of God. So yes, they are prophetic.
Kerwin…….YES ,IT IS PROPHETIC “future tense”, SO THEN IF IT IS PROPHETIC THEN JESUS COULD NOT HAVE EVER ALREADY BEEN A SON OF GOD, THAT WAS MY POINT, I WAS TRYING TO MAKE. So Jesus could not have preexisted his berth as a son of GOD “ALREADY”, RIGHT? It proves that Jesus the Christ came into existence at his berth on this earth.
peace and love to you and yours. ………….gene
Gene,
The bottom point is that Jesus because he was miraculously conceived of a virgin but because he is the chief son God as of the Spirit.
God appointed Jesus the Christ, the Son of the living God before the world began just like he appointed Jeremiah a prophet to the nations before he was formed in his mother’s womb.
I am not sure when he received the actual position.
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