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Yes Gene, Christ’s father is greater than him. But Christ is the son of God and express image of God and is God
How can you be the image of something and be that something too.
We are made in the image of God, so that is a sure way of alluding to the fact that we are not God.
The woman is the image of the man, so that is a sure way of alluding to the female not being male.
If you are talking about nature, then yes he and we participate in divine nature.
But you cannot be an image and the original at the same time.
Now see what Jesus has to say on the subject:
John 17:3
“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent,”Clearly Jesus is not saying he is God, but that the ONLY true God sent him. Further, this is eternal life, so no small thing.
Now ask yourself, can you see Jesus? Yes is the answer. But now take a look at scripture and what it says about seeing God:
1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; ….1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.1 Timothy 6:15-16
15 which God will bring about in his own time, God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.Obviously Jesus is not God going by the invisibility of God and it is explained for us here in simple terms:
John 6:46
No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.See that. Jesus has seen God and he is of God. If you are of something, that is a sure way that means you are not that thing.
If you are of your parent, then you are not your parents. If heat is a byproduct of fire, then heat is not fire. Of means you are a descendant or came from, the very language we read time and time again with regard to Jesus being of God.
There is no justification in scripture to say that Jesus is God. Rather he is of God, the firstborn of God, the image of God. This is the truth of the matter.
Doctrines today and in the past rob us of who Jesus Christ really is.
There is also the opposite end of the pendulum swing where people deny Jesus even of his firstborn status among creation and how God created all things through him and for him. I believe the father of lies is behind both extremes and we should steer clear of these man-made doctrines and be very wary of teachers who promote these things. If we make scripture our doctrine, then we cannot err in this regard.
You will find that both these extreme teachings that Jesus is God or was just an ordinary man created 2000 years ago miss the mark set for us in scripture. These teaching require add on doctrines not found in scripture to make some kind of sense.
T8……You are right about the first part, but wrong on the last part, Jesus is the “second” Adam, so how could he preexist the “first” Adam. Just for starters. JESUS did preexist in this way , he was the planned prototype of Man, God the Father had in mind before the Foundations of the earth were ever created , in fact it was for that “second” Adam Creation Jesus came into his existence at the time he did, on this earth.
JESUS had to be “exactly” like us in all ways and exit that way without sin, in order for him to pay our sin debt. Because we never could pay that eternal debt sentence, ourselves, because it required us to eternally die “parish” to fulfill that sentence, making it impossible for us to do. So out of God love for us he made a pervsion for us to have that penalty paid for, but it required a “human being” that never sinned, to make that payment . That he God could use for that sacrificial payment, much like he told our for FATHER’S of Israel to do for their sin payments.
Have you ever thought about that T8?, what was a Israelite man doing when he sacrificed that lamb without a blemish doing. For one he was admitting he was the cause of his sin, (taking full responsibility for it) by sacrificing a innecent being for it. But that could never remove his sin from him, because that would take a change of his nature.
So we see Jesus (as an unblimished lamb ) who he (God) sacrificed for us all, God took all our sins and layed them on his lamb, Jesus. Remember “there is no forgiveness of sins, without the shedding of blood. So it was God the Father who Paid our sin debt, by sacrificing, The flesh and Blood “man” Jesus, a unblimished Lamb taken from the sheep fold of Humanity. , so we can see it is God the Father our creator who took the responsibility himself for all sin, and paid for it , by his unblimished lamb, the “man”, “Jesus”.
Jesus had no advantage over us , except God our Father was with him and kept him, from sin, for “his” sacrifice for the sins, of us all.
We do not “seperate” Jesus from our own human idenity with him.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi All
Isaiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Lord=Yahweh/God=Elohim. Speaking of the forerunner John. The Yahweh is the one John heralded, at the river. Matt. 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. Lord= Yahweh of Isaiah 40:3 John 1:23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. Lord=Yahweh of Isaiah 40:3
Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith theLord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else. Lord=Yahweh God=Elohim. Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Myself=Lord> Yahweh. Every knee bow, every tongue,this is of His future glory. Isaiah 42:8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Lord=Yahweh
In Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: God=Elohim
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Jesus Christ is Lord=Yahweh of Isaiah 45:23
My question to you is what do you see here in these Scriptures? Let’s reason together.
God bless 🙏
Hi Gene
Me: your totally wrong.
If Jesus Christ was just a man He wouldn’t be able to die for the sins of the world, I hope you can understand this which we be through this before, Before as in the past, not the future, like you and Jodi used before with Abraham. Remember you try to make out that before meant future at Abraham’s resurrection, you’ll say anything.
Again your totally wrong about almost everything.
God bless
God bless
Anthony, but you have given Yahweh’s name to someone else, “Jesus” , your hang up is with the words “LORD” and “lord”, they are “not” the same in the Hebrew, LORD is YAHWEH, pronounced in Hebrew as “ADONAI” meaning the “Almighty GOD”, while lord is in lower case form and pronounced in Hebrew as “adoni meaning a “human ruler, or one in athuority, as a human judge, Mayor , king, etc. Thus it is written, “the LORD “adonai” said unto my lord “adoni” sit on my right, until I “adonai” make your “adoni” enimies your footstool.
I have given you a site before that goes into detail and explains it all clearly to you, so you could better understand the differences between those two words. BUT again you just ignore things, that go against your own views, and accuse others of doing what you do more then anyone else here, except perhaps Carmel. ‘Sad’.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Hi Gene
Gene you neglect to see what these scriptures are saying that the one that these scriptures are talking about is Jesus Christ, the one that John the Baptist ushered in, and the one that everyone will bow too and everyone will confess to. No matter what the name is Jesus Christ is the one is Gene. Yes Gene Lord with small letters are man ,like Kings and things of that sort.But here in these scriptures there talking about Yahweh and Elohim
Lord with capital letters meaning Yahweh and God with capital letters meaning Elohim
And by the way ADONAI was changed from Yahweh to Adonai 134 places. My question about why they changed only 134 different places is why not all places, to me sound a little suspicious to me.
So Gene: Paul uses the Greek words theos (“God”) and kurios(“Lord”). In 665 places, the authors use kurios instead of the Hebrew word YHWH.
YHWH was translated to Yahweh or Jehovah. And Lord capital letters to Elohim here in these verses. You where trying to make out that I didn’t realize that there was a different’s between Lord with capital letters and Lord with small letters, you was wrong again, you neglect to see what these scriptures are saying, the one, these scriptures are talking about is Jesus Christ the Messiah.
Gene I have the English Hebrew and Greek Concordance by George V. Wigram, it pinpoints every Hebrew and Greek words in every verse. That’s coded with Strong’s numbers. And other Bible help books. The Strong’s doesn’t do that, it give you a variety of meanings that you can choose and pick which one you want to use, My Concordance by George V. Wigram pinpoints what it is for every verse. You need to know the Hebrew and Greek alphabet, or a list so you can go by.
Myself Gen I think you need help. Your doctrine is keeping you from the truth on something, we do agree about something.
God bless 🙏
Yes Anthony, the name that YHWH wants us to retain is YHWH and not LORD (adonay) or Jehovah.
Why do we have “The LORD” in our bibles rather than Yahweh?
http://www.eliyah.com/whythlrd.htmWe see in the above quote that Jews started to vocally replace the name “Yahweh” with “Adonai” (Lord) for two reasons:
1. It was beginning to be believed that His name was too sacred to be uttered
2. They preferred to simply call Him “Elohim” rather than “Yahweh” to demonstrate to the world that He is the only true Elohim.
While on the surface these reasons may seem honorable, they are very unscriptural. They were and are attempts to improve on Yahweh’s already perfect ways. If Yahweh really wanted a substitute, why would He have placed His name there to begin with? Though scripture says to follow Yahweh rather than man, we find that nearly 7,000 times the most important name of all is replaced with a another word that man has chosen.
This tradition was not practiced by the Messiah or the apostles, but it was adopted by some Christians during the early half of the 2nd Century CE/AD. By the 4th century, this practice was well established and widely practiced. Jerome, a 4th century “Church Father” who authored the Latin Vulgate version, substituted the name “Yahweh” throughout with the Latin word “Dominus” (meaning “Lord”). The tradition of replacing Yahweh’s name with “the LORD” continues to this day. Most English translations substitute the name Yahweh with “the LORD” and translations into other languages will also commonly choose a title meaning “Lord” in their own language. More information on this can be found in the preface of many modern bibles.Hebrew names of God
https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Adonai/adonai.htmlEXPOSITION ON THE NAMES YESU-YAHWEH AND JESUS-JEHOVAH
http://nhkox.homestead.com/who1.htmlThe name behind YHWH is not known now until we become like the Messiah. This is the one true name of both the Messiah and his Father
New International Version
Judges 13:18 He replied, “Why do you ask my name? It is beyond understanding.”Actually, we could study this at length and would be a good topic.
Hi Anthony,
Thanks for the reference “English Hebrew and Greek Concordance by George V. Wigram”. I will look into it.
Hi All,
EXPOSITION ON THE NAMES YESU-YAHWEH AND JESUS-JEHOVAH
http://nhkox.homestead.com/who1.htmlTo expound on this:
In the reading of the Hebrew Scriptures, when the name YHWH was encountered, the term Adonai (Lord) was pronounced in its place. As we have seen, this practice dated from at least the 3rd century B.C. Following after this custom the Masoretes, about the 8th century A.D., introduced their vowel points into the Hebrew text and consequently rendered the name YHWH with the vowel pointing of the word “Adonai” (Heb. ‘eDoNaY) supposedly to assure that the reader would not pronounce the YHWH as YaHWeH but would rather insert the word “Adonai”. This later created a problem for Christian Scribes (unfamiliar with Hebrew practice) yet attempting to translate the Hebrew Scriptures. These vowels from Adonai (e-o-a) written into the name YHWH, rendered it as YeHoWaH. With the facts in front of us, we can see that Yehowah is not Yahweh. It is a total misnomer.
Me: Actually the vowel points are from ‘’eDoNaY” and not Adonai, thus YeHoWaH
Mal 1 (NKJV)“And now, O priests, this commandment is for you.
2 If you will not hear,
And if you will not take it to heart,
To give glory to My name,”
Says YHWH of hosts,
“I will send a curse upon you,
And I will curse your blessings.
Yes, I have cursed them already,
Because you do not take it to heart.Quote: Can we be sure of the correct pronunciation of the tetragrammaton without the proper diacritical points to determine the vowels?
Although some authors will make the statement that no letters of the Hebrew alphabet are vowels, any Hebrew grammar will inform you that this is not entirely correct. All of the Hebrew letters are indeed consonants and have a consonantal value, but some of them function additionally as vowels and are so employed.
In the Sephardic Hebrew, the language of the Scriptures, waw equaled the w sound, i.e. double-u or the oo sound.
Treating the Y-H-W-H as vowels, their vocalization would be as follows, yod= ee; he= ah; waw= oo; he= eh.
Me:
ee ah oo eh
yah weh
Me: Bible names should be transliterated to maintain their original sounds in the different languages.
Hi Truthcomber,
The first link has God’s name as YHVH,
and the second link has it as YHWH ???How do you account for this discrepancy?
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God bless
Ed JHi Anthony,
YOU:
Hi Gene
Gene you neglect to see what these scriptures are saying that the one that these scriptures are talking about is Jesus Christ, the one that John the Baptist ushered in, and the one that everyone will bow too and everyone will confess to.
ME:
8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
TO THE GLORY of the FATHER,
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ORDAINED of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
Anthony, do you confess Jesus as your Christ to the glory of the Father, in how that God anointed the man Jesus of Nazareth, and made him Christ and our master?
Anthony, do you believe that we are to follow Jesus BECAUSE Jesus is the son of David who would fulfill all of God’s will?
The Son of Man is returning to sit on his father David’s throne, where this man will establish God’s kingdom fulfilling all of God’s will.
Anthony do you confess that the unity of our faith is to believe that the Son of God is a perfect man?
As Jesus is a perfect man he has the obedience to follow all of God’s will.
Anthony do you follow the Son of Man Jesus because he follows the will of our One True God, and thus is our example, and the one that will teach us how to live in God’s kingdom?
Anthony, do you obey Jesus’s words, in that they are God’s words, and not his own?
Anthony do you obey Jesus in the fact that Jesus tells us to obey God?
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;
19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
Anthony you do realize that Jesus is nothing without God, and that we owe all to God for what God did through having called the offspring of Jesse to righteousness to be a covenant?
Hi Jodi,
You:
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were DEAD, yet shall he live:
TC, Jesus died for all, all are to be resurrected, some are resurrected to eternal life where they will never taste death again, the second death has no power over them.John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto DEATH, and I will give thee a crown of life.
You: clearly Jesus was speaking in verse 51 of the second death, otherwise you make Jesus into a liar.Me: No Jodi, I never said Jesus was a liar. I said you and Gene are deceivers. If there is ever a term for “snow job”, you have fully demonstrated it time and time again. You go on and on all over the place not defining your terms and then using them in sentences. So what is second death to you? Please answer plain and simply.
Let the bible explain John 8:51.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Me: The second death is the death of death. The lake of fire is the Messiah himself. It shall be done in dramatic fashion.
Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire. For example, take the unprofitable servant (Christian) in Matt 24:50 below.
Matt 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Me: It will be dramatic but it will accomplish its goal of salvation for all.
1 Cor 3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Me: The unprofitable servant would not be saved in the first resurrection, but by the lake of fire at the end. He would not be a king and a priest.
https://www.godfire.net/Elwin/277-I_Am_Become_The_2nd_Death.htm
https://www.godfire.net/Hi Jodi,
You: clearly Jesus was speaking in verse 51 of the second death; otherwise you make Jesus into a liar.
Me: NO, You make yourself a liar. The second death clearly brings life, not death.
John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
Me: to expound on John 8:51:
“Never see death means from now”, from the resurrection of Christ. Salvation is from the time of Pentecost, from the time when the righteous are baptized into the death and resurrection of Christ. This is a mild form of the second death, for we die with Christ and are resurrected into life with him. If we keep the saying and commandments of God until our physical deaths, we will never taste death.
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
2 Cor 6:2 (NASB) And working together with Him, we also urge you not to receive the grace of God in vain— 2 for He says, “AT THE ACCEPTABLE TIME I LISTENED TO YOU,
AND ON THE DAY OF SALVATION I HELPED YOU.”
Behold, NOW is “THE ACCEPTABLE TIME,” behold, now is “THE DAY (ME:TIME) OF SALVATION”—1 Corinthians 15 (NASB)
The Order of Resurrection20 But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. 21 For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in [h] Christ all will be made alive. 23 BUT EACH MAN IN HIS OWN ORDER Christ the first fruit(s)
Me: We are in Christ now, not at the first resurrection. Then there are those not in Christ now but when he returns (verse 24), Christ is the first fruit(s), not the first fruit by himself. We are one holy temple with him. “BUT EACH MAN IN HIS OWN ORDER” does not mean we are spiritually resurrected at the same time. It means we become sons of God fully in the spirit when we each of us die individually NOW in this age.
New American Standard Bible
2 Cor 5:8 we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.You:
Hi Jodi,
Matthew 22:31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Living according to a resurrection of the dead TC.John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour (me: time) is coming, and NOW IS, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
Me: The dead OT receive salvation of the spirit at Pentecost in Acts 1 when they are baptized in the holy spirit with Christ from Pentecost.
This is in contrast with the rest of the dead after the thousand years..
John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Hi Jodi,
You: WHEN is that resurrection, when do people receive their crown of life?
When Jesus returns to earth is WHEN!2 Timothy 4:8 Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day – and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.
Hebrews 9:28 Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
1 Peter 1:3-5 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade – kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time…
..13 Therefore, prepare your minds for action; be self-controlled; set your hope fully on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is revealed.1 Peter 5:4 And when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that will never fade away.
1 John 2:28 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming.
Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.
Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Me: You fail to distinguish the crown of glory from the spiritual resurrection of the dead. The crown of glory is what the saints now alive in the spirit with Christ receive as the last step in salvation. It is their new bodies of the spirit. Someone alive receives a crown of glory, not someone who will be at the same time.
New American Standard Bible
1 Cor 15:45 So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
Me: The Messiah is a spirit with a spirit body in heaven reserved for all the saints to become one with.
Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes (me: for there new bodies) were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Me: These souls are under the altar BEFORE THE FIRST RESURRECTION.
John 14:2 In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
The Temporal and Eternal
2 Cor 5:1 (NASB) For we know that if the earthly tent which is our house is torn down, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For indeed in this house we groan, longing to be clothed with our dwelling from heaven, 3 inasmuch as we, having put it on, will not be found naked.Me: We will be clothed with our bodies from heaven which is a new body of the spirit and not of the flesh. It will be made in the image of our old bodies.
Hi All,
Acts 2: 27 (NASB) BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT ABANDON MY (DAVID’S) SOUL TO HADES,
NOR [y]ALLOW YOUR [z]HOLY ONE TO [aa]UNDERGO DECAY.
28 ‘YOU HAVE MADE KNOWN TO ME THE WAYS OF LIFE;
YOU WILL MAKE ME FULL OF GLADNESS WITH YOUR PRESENCE.’
29 “[ab]Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is [ac]with us to this day. 30 And so, because he was a prophet and knew that GOD HAD SWORN TO HIM WITH AN OATH TO SEAT one [ad]OF HIS DESCENDANTS ON HIS THRONE, 31 he looked ahead and spoke of the resurrection of [ae]the Christ, that HE (his soul) WAS NEITHER ABANDONED TO HADES, NOR DID His flesh SUFFER DECAY. 32 This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses. 33 Therefore having been exalted [ag]to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He has poured forth this which you both see and hear. 34 For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says:
‘YHWH SAID TO MY LORD,
“SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,
35 UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET.”’Me: Verse 34 is saying that it was not David that rose into heaven to become his own salvation, but Christ that rose into heaven to become our salvation. These verses do not say David IS NOT risen into heaven as the KJV so. For David’s soul has (mind and heart) has risen after Pentecost.
God rose Jesus from the dead by the Word of God in him.
https://biblehub.com/acts/2-34.htmHi Truthcomber,
The first link has God’s name as YHVH,
and the second link has it as YHWH ???How do you account for this discrepancy?
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God bless
Ed JHi Truthcomber,
Are you going to ignore this post to you?
T8……You are right about the first part, but wrong on the last part, Jesus is the “second” Adam, so how could he preexist the “first” Adam.
Let me spell it out for you. He came in the flesh. Before that, he was not a man. The Word became flesh. And he is still called the Word of God. God created all things through him and for him.
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