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Hi Andrew,
More evolved teaching in John?
Was it not the same Holy Spirit that inspired both?
Could you elucidate these please
Jn 13.49
Jn 14.10
Jn 14.24
Of course God has given me tongues to use in season.
Hi Andrew,
Was the Spirit in John’s words different to that in the words of Peter and Paul?
Are there any other books you find deficient?
Who are you??
Andrew,
Wow Kerwin,are you grasping at silly straws here? So those who fell down were “secret believers”maybe? If they feared men more than God then certainly they are not believers or worthy of Christ.He who denies me before men I will deny before the Father-didn’t Jesus say that? But maybe he really didn’t mean that too strictly since even Peter denied him yet became the Rock on which the church is founded.
So maybe those who fell down were all believers and Jesus healed the ear of that timid believer who got his ear chopped off? That actually makes me feel much better about myself and maybe now I can “harmonize”all the scriptures to my personal taste.Jesus is restoring my hearing right now even.Praise God!
I have evidence to support the case but it is still speculative. The may have fainted and if that is now they went backwards and fell to the ground. It is difficult to figure out the why when you have insufficient information.
Hi Andrew,
The Rock was manifest when Peter said
“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God”
by the Holy Spirit.
Hi Andrew,
The difference with John’s book is that the Spirit spoke often in the first person through the mouth of Jesus.
Unspiritual men still only see and hear a man and want to make him a god.
Jn 14.10
“…The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own initiative, but the Father abiding in me does HIS works”
Who believes him?
Hi Andrew ,
And when you are ready there is more.
The Holy Spirit is one.[1cor 12]
But in that one Spirit there is the Spirit of Christ[in the prophets-1Peter1,] also known as the Spirit of the Son[gal4] as well as
ANOTHER COUNSELLOR, The Spirit of truth from the Father.[jn 14.16f, jn15.16, jn 16.7]
You should hear the voice of the Father and the Son in the words of the man Jesus in the book of John.
WE will come to you.[jn 14.23]
And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.Before looking more at what Jesus said, it would be appropriate to see what God said.“I am that I am” is not the best translation.In Hebrew, there is no verb “to be” however the verb translated should be translated, “to become” . Evidently, the Hebrew language did not see life as static and unchanging as much as some do. Evidently, the present tense “is” is the equivalent of “became”.Thus what God said is, according to EW Bullinger, who was a trinitarian, “I will be what I will be” or “I will become what I will become” the former being preferred because the second might suggest to some that God changes which He does not. Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.If you were to ask God right now, “Who are you” would God expect you to receive everything there is to know about God in one phrase? one sentence? one paragraph? one research paper? in one minute? in one year? all eternity?Of course not. Learning about who God is is a step by step, day by day, year by year process that Moses or anyone else learns a little at a time.God could have said, “Moses, this is not the time for my full autobiography, you can’t handle all that I am, but as you and I walk and talk together, you will see and you will learn, I will be what I will be when the time comes for me to show more of who I am.”Jesus did not say, I will become, He said, ego eimi, I am hesonofGod,
If you make sure the text tab is pressed before you paste it will get rid of that HTML formatting. It is tricky so I hope t8 finds an easier way to resolve the issue.
Hi Andrew,
The gift of tongues is classic Spirit of the Son/Christ.
If you look at Rom 8 you will see the Spirit helps us pray TO GOD
Gal 4 and Rom 8 mention praying ABBA FATHER
If you do not have the Spirit of Christ you are none of his.[rom8]
sonofGod,
If you make sure the text tab is pressed before you paste it will get rid of that HTML formatting. It is tricky so I hope t8 finds an easier way to resolve the issue.
I fixed it. The only way to avoid this is to have only a text tab. But then that means you cannot make beautiful posts unless you know HTML or IB code.
NOTE to all: If your post shows up HTML, copy the code, edit the post, change to the text mode tab and paste in the code.
Hi,
The Word of God was with God in the beginning.
So when the Word speaks through Jesus why does everyone get confused?
Hi davidl,
You have not offered us the Word of God but the words and foolish conclusions of confused men.
The Father wants you to receive His Son, Jesus Christ…
Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” – John 3:5
“Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.” – 1 John 2:23
“See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete.” – Colossians 2:8-10
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