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- December 4, 2015 at 11:08 am#805562
NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Of course he was not spiritless.
He was alive in the Spirit of eternal life.
That is our hope too.
December 4, 2015 at 11:24 am#805564kerwin
ParticipantNick,
He was alive in the Spirit of eternal life.
I disagree at the a person alive in the Spirit is incorruptibly and immortal.
Jesus was raised from dead by the Spirit, Romans 1:4
December 4, 2015 at 1:17 pm#805573NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Yes he was raised by the Spirit of eternal life.
When he returns all those who sleep in that same Spirit will rise to be with him.
Jn 5
December 4, 2015 at 1:28 pm#805578kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Is that the correct address?If so then please give me the verses. Thank you.
December 4, 2015 at 2:03 pm#805581NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
I am unsure what you are confused about.
Try
Rom 8.11
Rom 1.4
1 Thess 4 16-17
1Cor 14 51-55
December 4, 2015 at 4:18 pm#805590kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Romans 8:11 is one reason why I believe God will send his Spirit to resurrect and transform the mortal bodies of those who rest in Sheol.
December 4, 2015 at 4:23 pm#805593NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
God already has sent His Spirit in Christ and all those who share in that Spirit now, will be raised.
If you do not have the Spirit of Christ you are none of his.
December 7, 2015 at 12:21 pm#805750Proclaimer
Participant@t8,
Revelations is a book of symbology
And blesses is he who understands the prophecy in that book.
December 7, 2015 at 4:28 pm#805789NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
The mortal bodies of the dead will not be changed.
They will have returned to dust.
The transformation will only affect those yet alive on earth in Christ.
December 7, 2015 at 5:21 pm#805791kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Scripture disagrees for it says “he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.”
December 7, 2015 at 5:24 pm#805792NickHassan
ParticipantHi K!
Indeed this is true for those alive when he returns.
December 7, 2015 at 5:37 pm#805793kerwin
ParticipantNick,
The letter was wrote to those who are now dust.
December 7, 2015 at 5:39 pm#805794NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Does that change anything?
truth is eternal.
December 7, 2015 at 5:53 pm#805795kerwin
ParticipantNick,
It does not change anything if you believe that when Paul wrote “your” he was told those that are now dust the the Spirit that will quicken their mortal bodies.
December 7, 2015 at 6:03 pm#805796NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
dust is not a body.
December 7, 2015 at 6:07 pm#805797kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Is Paul wrong?
December 7, 2015 at 6:29 pm#805798NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
No truth is eternal.
December 7, 2015 at 7:26 pm#805799kerwin
ParticipantSo how does the give life to mortal bodies that are dust?
December 7, 2015 at 9:38 pm#805801NickHassan
ParticipantHi KW,
Those who are in Christ and whose bodies have turned to dust will rise in a new heavenly body.
They will not be naked.
They will meet the Lord in the air.
December 8, 2015 at 4:39 am#805803kerwin
ParticipantNick,
Yes, and that heavenly body will be their quickened mortal body.
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