JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[NickHassan]

Hi KW

two different entities?

Why not say PERSONS and you have replicated the folly of the false church.

The Spirit is One

but how any threads are in a rope?

How many colours make white?

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[NickHassan]

Hi,

Natural man thinks one and one and the same are interchangeable.

[Ed J]

Hi ED,

God is spirit.

The Word was with God and was God.

The Spirit of Christ is the Word which was with God and made flesh.

No NIck,

The HolySpirit is “The Word” which was with God and made flesh at Jordan. (ref. John 1:14, Isaiah 61:1)
Jesus was NOT anointed with the spirit of Christ, but anointed as the spirit of Christ! (ref. Acts 10:38)

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

“Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren:
and the Spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward.” (1Sam 16:13)

“and take not thy HolySpirit from me” – David (Psalms 51:11)

[kerwin]

Nick,

I am asking Ed a question about his statement. I am not implying I think any part of it is true.

The Spirit of God, aka Spirit of Christ, may be an entity, which is “a thing with distinct and independent existence” (Google), but I am not sure. An entity may or may not be a person.

[Ed J]

Hi ED,

God has given us a vision of how things exist in the spiritual realm.

Men have tried to translate those things into how they are in the natural realm.

They presume God is speaking of separate beings but there is no such separation in the Holy Spirit.

Hi Nick,

Whenever people try to explain concepts
that are not biblical their explanations always sound like gobbledygook

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,

So by your teaching Jesus was not anointed at the Jordan but was somehow anointed prior to his birth.

it has no support

No Nick,

You are trying to blend what I’m telling you with a fixed position of yours that is an error.

Jesus was born Christ (Luke 2:11), and Jesus Christ
was anointed with the HolySpirit at Jordan. (Acts 10:38)

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,

Why try to discern what is spiritual by using illogic?

Why?

Because God made his word to be understandable. (ref. Isaiah 1:18)

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

no

Christ was born.

Just as President Obama was born.

Prophetic.

[kerwin]

Ed,

It does not say as it states with.

Acts 10:38Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

It is also paraphrased here.

Matthew 12:18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

The reason that the Spirit of God is also known is the Spirit of Christ is because God gave Jesus a name that is above every other name. (2 Philippians 2:9)

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

1Cor 2

logic is close to uselessness.

[Ed J]

Ed,

Why do you think the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of God are two different entities?

Hi Kerwin,

Because “the spirit of Christ” was not praying to himself.

[kerwin]

Ed,

Sincere prayer is one of the fruits of the Spirit even though God does not pray to anyone.

I do not know where it is written that the Spirit of Christ prayed to anyone or where anyone prayed to the Spirit of Christ.

I do know that Jesus often prayed to God as he was carried along by the Spirit.

[Ed J]

Nick,

An entity may or may not be a person.

Hi Kerwin,

Correct the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are both entities;

But the Spirit of Christ is a person (ref. Luke 2:11)
while the Spirit of God is not a person. (ref. Numbers 23:11)

[kerwin]

Ed,

Luke 2:11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

Even when looking at the context I do not see how this supports the claim that the Spirit of Christ is a person as the Spirit of Christ is not mentioned in the passage.

The angel tells us that the human neonatal in the manger is the Anointed of Yahweh.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

Jesus of Nazareth was anointed with the Holy Spirit(acts 10)

Not Jesus of Bethlehem.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

Lk 2 offers your theory no support.

 

[NickHassan]

Hi ed,

Scripture say that Jesus was made both Lord and Christ(acts 2.36)

But you disagree?

 

[Ed J]

Ed,

(1)The reason that the Spirit of God is also known is the Spirit of Christ (2)is because God gave Jesus a name that is above every other name. (2 Philippians 2:9)

Hi Kerwin,

(1)There is NO REASON for thinking that. (2)The reason Jesus’ name
is above every other name is because Jesus’ name is actually “YA-shu-a”

“Jesus’ authentic name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה]
in that YÄ is the first part of Jesus’ Hebrew name. GOD’s name is not vocalized
in the English translation of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise
exactness and direct authentic connection to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ.

Jesus’ Name in Hebrew יהשוע means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[עשי]=[יהשוע]) the salvation of “GOD the Father”.
Therefore [יהשוע] “Jesus” name authentically establishes [יהוה] “JEHOVAH” as the Highest Name.
(Phil. 2:9,11: Wherefore “Holy Spirit”=151 has highly exalted “Jesus”=74 giving Him
a name which is above every name, to the glory of “GOD The Father”=117.)

Neither is there salvation in any other name: for there is no other name given among men (יהשוע),
whereby we must be saved. (Acts 4:12) People speaking fluent Hebrew know that in essence,
[יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă means: “YÄ is Savior”.” – Holy City Bible Code (page 11)

“there is no savior beside me” (Hosea 13:4)
“The Savior”(117) = “God the Father”(117)

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Hi Ed,

logic is close to uselessness.

Hi Nick,

Gobbledygook is for the most part useless, but logic is necessry to reach those in errror. (ref. Isaiah 1:18)

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God bless
Ed J

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