JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

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  • #108950
    Lightenup
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    Nick,
    You asked where it speaks of two spirits becoming one. See this verse, it is drawing a parallel of two becoming one.

    1 Cor 6:16-18
    16 Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, “THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.” 17 But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
    NASU

    I am afraid that I must get some sleep. I have a long day tomorrow. Nice chatting with you, Nick.

    LU

    #108977
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    No such verse then?

    #108983
    Lightenup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2008,14:25)
    Hi LU,
    No such verse then?


    .Hi Nick,
    It is there, read it carefully
    LU

    #108985
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    We share the Spirit of Christ with him and with God.
    But our human spirit leaves at death [ecc12] and the abiding Spirit of God does not so they are not one.

    #108998
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hi Nick,
    1 Cor 6:17 But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

    This is what Wycliffe says about this verse.

    1 Cor 6:15-17
    17. One spirit. One of the strongest expressions of unity and security in the Word of God. As one author has put it, “The sheep may wander from the shepherd, the branch may be cut off from the vine; the member may be severed from the body . . . but when two spirits blend in one, what shall part them?” (Arthur T. Pierson, Knowing the Scriptures, p. 146).
    (from The Wycliffe Bible Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright  1962 by Moody Press)

    LU

    #109000
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    Indeed one by SHARING in the Spirit of Christ.
    But our own spirit is not involved.

    #109002
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Nick,
    What shares in the spirit of Christ if not our own spirit then?

    #109003
    NickHassan
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    hi LU,
    God GAVE of His own Spirit to His Son who GAVE of that Spirit to us.
    We received of a share in God's Holy Spirit.
    Theirin is our unity.

    Our own spirit contributes nothing.

    #109048
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hi Nick,
    So what happened to the Son's original spirit?

    LU

    #109053
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    He was a man.

    Ecc12
    7Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

    Jn19
    30Therefore when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit.

    #109055
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hi Nick,
    Was He only a man?

    #109058
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    Acts2
    22Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

    1 Timothy 2:5
    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    #109059
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Nick,
    Was the Son of God only a man and nothing else?

    #109061
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    He has no inbuilt advantage over any other man who wants to follow him.
    Made of our stock and personally aware of all we face he overcame by the Spirit of grace.
    We too can seek to be blessed as he was and to fulfill our appointed role as a branch in his blessed vine

    #109063
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Nick,
    But He was the vine, we are the branches. Can we be blessed to be vines too someday with branches?

    #109064
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    No.
    Faith can become as a tree in which birds can roost and rest

    #109068
    Lightenup
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    Nick,
    You said once that we can be just like Him. Why can't we be a vine?

    #109070
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi LU,
    Is not a branch exactly like the vine?

    #109071
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Nick,
    No, it is not directly attached to roots, it has leaves and fruit coming off it a vine is directly attached to the roots, a vine has no fruit directly hanging off it. We can't be like Him if we can't be a vine.

    #109073
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Nick,
    So you don't believe the Son of God pre-existed His conception within Mary?

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