JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00)

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it

T,

The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David. I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did.

K

they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 10 2012,06:35)

Frank, Men are also called gods in scripture, but they are not to be worshipped as God Almighty.

Hi Mike,

When the Melitans called the Apostle Paul (Shaool) a god it was because they were mistaken – you do know that, right?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,02:50)

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did. K they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God

T,

Sounds like you have drawn a reasonable implication from the passage. Would you agree that Jesus, as a greater king than David, can be worshiped in a like manner while existing as a human being?

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ Oct. 10 2012,14:36)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 10 2012,03:37) Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 07 2012,15:51) God here in Phil 2:6 seems to be a particular type of form and not a particular person. Quote (jammin @ Oct. 07 2012,19:06) paul is talking about nature in phil 2.6 and not a particular person You mean like this? 5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: 6 Who, existing with the nature of the species known as “God”,    did not consider equality with the species known as “God” something to be grasped…….. Is that truly how you guys understand Paul's words?  Hmmmm…………. Perhaps you could list a supporting scripture, where Paul used the word “God” to convey a species of being, instead of a particular being or beings. i did not say species mike. that is just your own words LOL i said NATURE! that is written in phil 2.6 and you cant deny that truth. have you forgotten your homework??? you said FORM OF HIS GOD what version is that mike??? can you read that?? or just an imagination? LOL

Hi Jammin,

No, you just describe “GOD” as a God '”species” – but for some reason reject the term '”species” – hmmm, wonder why?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,10:06)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,02:50) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did. K they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God T, Sounds like you have drawn a reasonable implication from the passage.  Would you agree that Jesus, as a greater king than David, can be worshiped in a like manner while existing as a human being?

I would most definitely agree that Yahshua can be “worshiped” as a greater King than Dawid in the same manner in that he was also “worshiped” as a King.

Word Studies On Worship
(shachah, latreuo, and proskuneo)

WHO IS THE WORD?
John Chapter One

ELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE?
Exodus 32
By Voy Wilks
3/9/98

The Pre-existence
Philippians 2:5-11
By Voy Wilks
1/29/92

Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

“Jesus IS God!”?

…

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,17:06)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,02:50) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did. K they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God T, Sounds like you have drawn a reasonable implication from the passage.  Would you agree that Jesus, as a greater king than David, can be worshiped in a like manner while existing as a human being?

K

I would not call that worship,but give honor

worship does it not mean render a cult

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,11:53)

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,17:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,02:50) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did. K they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God T, Sounds like you have drawn a reasonable implication from the passage.  Would you agree that Jesus, as a greater king than David, can be worshiped in a like manner while existing as a human being? K I would not call that worship,but give honor worship does it not mean render a cult

No, it does not mean “render a cult”!

WORSHIP – As Defined In Our English Language:

worship – noun
1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.

…

5. (initial capital letter) British . a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually preceded by Your, His,  or Her).

verb (used without object)

8.
to render religious reverence and homage, as to a deity.
9.
to attend services of divine worship.
10.
to feel an adoring reverence or regard.

Synonyms

3.  honor, homage, adoration, idolatry. 7.  honor, venerate, revere, adore, glorify, idolize, adulate.

World English Dictionary

1. ( tr ) to show profound religious devotion and respect to; adore or venerate (God or any person or thing considered divine)
2. ( tr ) to be devoted to and full of admiration for
3. ( intr ) to have or express feelings of profound adoration
4. ( intr ) to attend services for worship
5. obsolete  ( tr ) to honour

— n
6. religious adoration or devotion
7. the formal expression of religious adoration; rites, prayers, etc
8. admiring love or devotion
9. archaic  dignity or standing
SOURCE

Word Studies On Worship
(shachah, latreuo, and proskuneo)

WHO IS THE WORD?
John Chapter One

ELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE?
Exodus 32
By Voy Wilks
3/9/98

The Pre-existence
Philippians 2:5-11
By Voy Wilks
1/29/92

Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

“Jesus IS God!”?

…

[terraricca]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 11 2012,19:34)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,11:53) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,17:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,02:50) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did. K they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God T, Sounds like you have drawn a reasonable implication from the passage.  Would you agree that Jesus, as a greater king than David, can be worshiped in a like manner while existing as a human being? K I would not call that worship,but give honor worship does it not mean render a cult No, it does not mean “render a cult”! WORSHIP – As Defined In Our English Language: worship – noun 1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred. … 5. (initial capital letter) British . a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually preceded by Your, His,  or Her). verb (used without object) 8. to render religious reverence and homage, as to a deity. 9. to attend services of divine worship. 10. to feel an adoring reverence or regard. Synonyms 3.  honor, homage, adoration, idolatry. 7.  honor, venerate, revere, adore, glorify, idolize, adulate. World English Dictionary 1. ( tr ) to show profound religious devotion and respect to; adore or venerate (God or any person or thing considered divine) 2. ( tr ) to be devoted to and full of admiration for 3. ( intr ) to have or express feelings of profound adoration 4. ( intr ) to attend services for worship 5. obsolete  ( tr ) to honour — n 6. religious adoration or devotion 7. the formal expression of religious adoration; rites, prayers, etc 8. admiring love or devotion 9. archaic  dignity or standing SOURCE Word Studies On Worship (shachah, latreuo, and proskuneo) WHO IS THE WORD? John Chapter One ELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE? Exodus 32 By Voy Wilks 3/9/98 The Pre-existence Philippians 2:5-11 By Voy Wilks 1/29/92 Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth? “Jesus IS God!”? …

F

thank you ,so if we say to honor someone it would also mean that we worship him ,right

so render honor to a king,or magistrate or someone who did something deserving honor, this would also mean that we worship them right

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,12:42)

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 11 2012,19:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,11:53) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,17:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,02:50) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did. K they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God T, Sounds like you have drawn a reasonable implication from the passage.  Would you agree that Jesus, as a greater king than David, can be worshiped in a like manner while existing as a human being? K I would not call that worship,but give honor worship does it not mean render a cult No, it does not mean “render a cult”! WORSHIP – As Defined In Our English Language: worship – noun 1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred. … 5. (initial capital letter) British . a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually preceded by Your, His,  or Her). verb (used without object) 8. to render religious reverence and homage, as to a deity. 9. to attend services of divine worship. 10. to feel an adoring reverence or regard. Synonyms 3.  honor, homage, adoration, idolatry. 7.  honor, venerate, revere, adore, glorify, idolize, adulate. World English Dictionary 1. ( tr ) to show profound religious devotion and respect to; adore or venerate (God or any person or thing considered divine) 2. ( tr ) to be devoted to and full of admiration for 3. ( intr ) to have or express feelings of profound adoration 4. ( intr ) to attend services for worship 5. obsolete  ( tr ) to honour — n 6. religious adoration or devotion 7. the formal expression of religious adoration; rites, prayers, etc 8. admiring love or devotion 9. archaic  dignity or standing SOURCE Word Studies On Worship (shachah, latreuo, and proskuneo) WHO IS THE WORD? John Chapter One ELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE? Exodus 32 By Voy Wilks 3/9/98 The Pre-existence Philippians 2:5-11 By Voy Wilks 1/29/92 Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth? “Jesus IS God!”? … F thank you ,so if we say to honor someone it would also mean that we worship him ,right so render honor to a king,or magistrate or someone who did something deserving honor, this would also mean that we worship them right

Yes, it all depends on how the word “worship” is used and to whom that determines the specific meaning.

[terraricca]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 11 2012,19:48)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,12:42) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 11 2012,19:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,11:53) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,17:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,02:50) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did. K they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God T, Sounds like you have drawn a reasonable implication from the passage.  Would you agree that Jesus, as a greater king than David, can be worshiped in a like manner while existing as a human being? K I would not call that worship,but give honor worship does it not mean render a cult No, it does not mean “render a cult”! WORSHIP – As Defined In Our English Language: worship – noun 1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred. … 5. (initial capital letter) British . a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually preceded by Your, His,  or Her). verb (used without object) 8. to render religious reverence and homage, as to a deity. 9. to attend services of divine worship. 10. to feel an adoring reverence or regard. Synonyms 3.  honor, homage, adoration, idolatry. 7.  honor, venerate, revere, adore, glorify, idolize, adulate. World English Dictionary 1. ( tr ) to show profound religious devotion and respect to; adore or venerate (God or any person or thing considered divine) 2. ( tr ) to be devoted to and full of admiration for 3. ( intr ) to have or express feelings of profound adoration 4. ( intr ) to attend services for worship 5. obsolete  ( tr ) to honour — n 6. religious adoration or devotion 7. the formal expression of religious adoration; rites, prayers, etc 8. admiring love or devotion 9. archaic  dignity or standing SOURCE Word Studies On Worship (shachah, latreuo, and proskuneo) WHO IS THE WORD? John Chapter One ELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE? Exodus 32 By Voy Wilks 3/9/98 The Pre-existence Philippians 2:5-11 By Voy Wilks 1/29/92 Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth? “Jesus IS God!”? … F thank you ,so if we say to honor someone it would also mean that we worship him ,right so render honor to a king,or magistrate or someone who did something deserving honor, this would also mean that we worship them right Yes, it all depends on how the word “worship” is used and to whom that determines the specific meaning.

F

so the word “worship ” is some how ambiguous right

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,12:58)

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 11 2012,19:48) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,12:42) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 11 2012,19:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,11:53) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,17:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,02:50) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,13:40) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2012,21:00) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,03:15) To all, Why did the congregation “worship” David? 1 Chronicles 29:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your God. And all the congregation blessed the Lord God of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king. k how did they worshiped THE LORD  AND HOW COULD THEY WORSHIP THE KING ? please detail it T, The scripture states they bowed down their heads and worshiped Jehovah and David.  I do not see an answer to the how they did, beyond bowing their heads, but it is clear, that in some manner of speaking, they did. K they did not worship David the man ,but David the king ,the King that God as chosen and so all glory goes to God T, Sounds like you have drawn a reasonable implication from the passage.  Would you agree that Jesus, as a greater king than David, can be worshiped in a like manner while existing as a human being? K I would not call that worship,but give honor worship does it not mean render a cult No, it does not mean “render a cult”! WORSHIP – As Defined In Our English Language: worship – noun 1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred. … 5. (initial capital letter) British . a title of honor used in addressing or mentioning certain magistrates and others of high rank or station (usually preceded by Your, His,  or Her). verb (used without object) 8. to render religious reverence and homage, as to a deity. 9. to attend services of divine worship. 10. to feel an adoring reverence or regard. Synonyms 3.  honor, homage, adoration, idolatry. 7.  honor, venerate, revere, adore, glorify, idolize, adulate. World English Dictionary 1. ( tr ) to show profound religious devotion and respect to; adore or venerate (God or any person or thing considered divine) 2. ( tr ) to be devoted to and full of admiration for 3. ( intr ) to have or express feelings of profound adoration 4. ( intr ) to attend services for worship 5. obsolete  ( tr ) to honour — n 6. religious adoration or devotion 7. the formal expression of religious adoration; rites, prayers, etc 8. admiring love or devotion 9. archaic  dignity or standing SOURCE Word Studies On Worship (shachah, latreuo, and proskuneo) WHO IS THE WORD? John Chapter One ELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE? Exodus 32 By Voy Wilks 3/9/98 The Pre-existence Philippians 2:5-11 By Voy Wilks 1/29/92 Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth? “Jesus IS God!”? … F thank you ,so if we say to honor someone it would also mean that we worship him ,right so render honor to a king,or magistrate or someone who did something deserving honor, this would also mean that we worship them right Yes, it all depends on how the word “worship” is used and to whom that determines the specific meaning. F so the word “worship ” is some how ambiguous right

Yes, as are also many other English words.

[terraricca]

F

So your debate is deceitful ,just as the words you using are ambiguous ,right

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,09:31)

F So your debate is deceitful ,just as the words you using are ambiguous ,right

T,

Is speaking English deceitful because words are ambiguous?

I would use fluid as the meaning changes with context just as both Greek and Hebrew words do.  Some contexts do create a certain amount of ambitiousness that can lead to miscommunications.

[Ed J]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Oct. 11 2012,13:11)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,12:58) F so the word “worship ” is some how ambiguous right Yes, as are also many other English words.

Hi Pierre,

Hebrew has many ambiguous words too – [אל] ĔL is one such example.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,15:28)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,09:31) F So your debate is deceitful ,just as the words you using are ambiguous ,right T, Is speaking English deceitful because words are ambiguous? I would use fluid as the meaning changes with context just as booth Greek and Hebrew words do.  Some contexts do create a certain amount of ambitiousness that can lead to miscommunications.

Hi Kerwin,

I didn't see this post before I posted, and its good that I did not
because I might not have responded to Pierre's then. Good Job!'

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2012,11:21)

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,15:28) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,09:31) F So your debate is deceitful ,just as the words you using are ambiguous ,right T, Is speaking English deceitful because words are ambiguous? I would use fluid as the meaning changes with context just as booth Greek and Hebrew words do.  Some contexts do create a certain amount of ambitiousness that can lead to miscommunications. Hi Kerwin, I didn't see this post before I posted, and its good that I did not because I might not have responded to Pierre's then. Good Job!' Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org

Ed J.,

Thank you!

To God go the praises.

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Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2012,11:36)

To All, (Link to thread) All these verses together PROVE that “The Word” is REALLY the HolySpirit”! Zech.4:6 Zech.12:1 Matt.13:19 Mark 4:14 Mark13:11 Mark 13:19 Luke 3:2 Luke 8:11 John 12:49 John 14:24 John 17:6-8 John 17:14 Acts 4:31 Acts 10:36-38 Acts 10:44 Acts 11:15-16 Acts 13:4-5 Acts 13:47-49 Acts 17:11 Acts 20:32 Romans 9:5-6 Romans 10:17 1Cor. 12:8-9 1Cor. 14:36 2Cor. 5:19 2Cor. 6:6-7 Gal.6:6 Eph. 1:12-13 Eph. 5:26 Eph. 6:17 Phillip.2:16 1Tm.5:17-18 2Tm.2:11-15 2Tm.4:2 Hebrews 1:1-2 Hebrews 2:2-3 Hebrews 4:2-6 Hebrews 4:8-12 Hebrews 5:13-14 Hebrews 7:28 Hebrews 11:3 Hebrews 12:19 James 1:18 1Peter 1:21-23 1Peter 2:6-8 1John 2:7-10 Rev.1:2 Rev.1:9 Rev.19:11-16 Rev.20:4 God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Cept the Word is the SWORD of the Spirit.

But you are obviously saying that the 'sword' part is irrelevant.

I don't think it is irrelevant.

The Word is the sWORD of the Spirit.

So it is OF the Spirit.

[Ed J]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 11 2012,20:15)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 02 2012,11:36) To All, (Link to thread) All these verses together PROVE that “The Word” is REALLY the HolySpirit”! … God bless Ed J Cept the Word is the SWORD of the Spirit. But you are obviously saying that the 'sword' part is irrelevant. I don't think it is irrelevant. The Word is the sWORD of the Spirit. So it is OF the Spirit.

Hi T8, I have organized it for you a bit better…

“The Word”  →  “Sharp Sword”  →  “The Word”
                                    (Spirit→Sword→The Word)

“his name is called The Word of God” (Rev 19:13)                      …“The Word”
“out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword” (Revelation 19:15)                …“Sharp Sword”
“the sword of the Spirit, which is “The Word” of God” (Eph 6:17)          …“The Word”

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2012,22:28)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 11 2012,09:31) F So your debate is deceitful ,just as the words you using are ambiguous ,right T, Is speaking English deceitful because words are ambiguous? I would use fluid as the meaning changes with context just as both Greek and Hebrew words do.  Some contexts do create a certain amount of ambitiousness that can lead to miscommunications.

Kerwin

nice try but you mist the point ,i was not talking about the language but about the use of ambiguous words in that language ,and his knowingly used to make others fall in a trap.you are very good at it ,

I DO NOT RECALL GOD USING SUCH A VOCABULARY AND INTENTION,

it becomes obvious that the ones using those means are not true in their hearts ,and so do not have truth in mind when speaking.THIS IS NOT THE WAY OF CHRIST ,NOR OF HIS TRUE FOLLOWERS

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