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Hi Mike,
Trying to draw 'a wedge' between what Scriptures say and what
I say (by attempting to change my words) is a fruitless endeavor.“Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down,
and cast into the fire.” (Matthew 7:19)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:01) Quote (jammin @ Sep. 03 2012,21:36) mike, do you agree that Christ had a truly human body?
they do not have TWO NATURES mike .
Yes jammin,Christ had a truly human body of flesh, blood, and bone.
tnx for the answertherefore, you must accept that the body died
Quote (jammin @ Sep. 05 2012,16:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:01) Quote (jammin @ Sep. 03 2012,21:36) mike, do you agree that Christ had a truly human body?
they do not have TWO NATURES mike .
Yes jammin,Christ had a truly human body of flesh, blood, and bone.
tnx for the answertherefore, you must accept that the body died
Hi Jammin,So, God doesn't die; right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 05 2012,16:36) Quote (jammin @ Sep. 05 2012,16:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:01) Quote (jammin @ Sep. 03 2012,21:36) mike, do you agree that Christ had a truly human body?
they do not have TWO NATURES mike .
Yes jammin,Christ had a truly human body of flesh, blood, and bone.
tnx for the answertherefore, you must accept that the body died
Hi Jammin,So, God doesn't die; right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
how many times do i have to tell this?the body died.
Christ had a truly HUMAN BODY. 1john 4.2
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,20:08) Hi Mike, God's spirit is God.
Trying to draw 'a wedge' between what Scriptures say and what I say (by attempting to change my words) is a fruitless endeavor.
According to you, God's spirit is God. And according to you, the Word in John 1:14 is God's spirit, right?1+1=2, Ed. If the Word is God's spirit, and God's spirit is God Most High, then the following is indeed YOUR understanding of John 1:14………..
And GOD MOST HIGH was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld GOD MOST HIGH'S glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
And since you cannot deny that the above truly is your understanding of 1:14, I will ask you once more:
Ed, why do you suppose that when God Most High was made flesh and dwelt on earth, he displayed the glory of “the only begotten of the Father”, instead of the glory of the Father Himself?
Wouldn't it make more sense that God Most High displayed the glory of God Most High, and not the glory of His own only begotten Son?
Quote (jammin @ Sep. 04 2012,23:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:01) Quote (jammin @ Sep. 03 2012,21:36) mike, do you agree that Christ had a truly human body?
they do not have TWO NATURES mike .
Yes jammin,Christ had a truly human body of flesh, blood, and bone.
tnx for the answertherefore, you must accept that the body died
Yes, I accept the body died.But I'll ask again: If Christ didn't die exactly the way all humans die, then how can he be the first of many brethren to follow him from the dead?
Quote (jammin @ Sep. 04 2012,00:19) the body died. Christ had a truly human body. 1 john 4.2
1 John 4:2Contemporary English Version (CEV)
2 and you can know which ones come from God. His Spirit says that Jesus Christ had a truly human body.
he became flesh (john 1.14)
John 1:14New Life Version (NLV)
14 Christ became human flesh and lived among us. We saw His shining-greatness.
the son and the father have the same nature.
John 1.1 BNT
When the world began, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God.how many times do i need to repeat this limjunus boy.
you and your father HAVE ONE NATURE! that is your HUMAN NATURE!the father and the son have the same nature, and that is nature God. phil 2.6
Philippians 2:6New International Version (NIV)
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
study hard boy
Jammin said,The body died.
What do you mean the body died? Do you mean Jesus Christ is not die but only his body? YES or NO?
If the body is not Jesus Christ, who is the body?
Do not respond with your style Jammin. You will go again to the concept of “nature”. You always using it as your defense mechanism, but you can not able to explain what really is the nature of a truly God?
Now, answer it. Who is the body died, if he is not Jesus Christ?
Death doesn't mean annihilation because there is a second death after that.
The second death is annihilation or eternal death so to speak.
Death actually means 'separation'. Soul and body separation. Whereas, the second death is separation from God which is spirit and soul separation, i.e., eternal death or destruction of the soul.
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 06 2012,13:34) Quote (jammin @ Sep. 04 2012,00:19) the body died. Christ had a truly human body. 1 john 4.2
1 John 4:2Contemporary English Version (CEV)
2 and you can know which ones come from God. His Spirit says that Jesus Christ had a truly human body.
he became flesh (john 1.14)
John 1:14New Life Version (NLV)
14 Christ became human flesh and lived among us. We saw His shining-greatness.
the son and the father have the same nature.
John 1.1 BNT
When the world began, the Word was already there. The Word was with God, and the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God.how many times do i need to repeat this limjunus boy.
you and your father HAVE ONE NATURE! that is your HUMAN NATURE!the father and the son have the same nature, and that is nature God. phil 2.6
Philippians 2:6New International Version (NIV)
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
study hard boy
Jammin said,The body died.
What do you mean the body died? Do you mean Jesus Christ is not die but only his body? YES or NO?
If the body is not Jesus Christ, who is the body?
Do not respond with your style Jammin. You will go again to the concept of “nature”. You always using it as your defense mechanism, but you can not able to explain what really is the nature of a truly God?
Now, answer it. Who is the body died, if he is not Jesus Christ?
talk to me after you finish your homeworkpoor limjunus,
you are using NLT to prove christ is not God but that version says he is God.study hard boy LOL
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 06 2012,10:07) Quote (jammin @ Sep. 04 2012,23:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:01) Quote (jammin @ Sep. 03 2012,21:36) mike, do you agree that Christ had a truly human body?
they do not have TWO NATURES mike .
Yes jammin,Christ had a truly human body of flesh, blood, and bone.
tnx for the answertherefore, you must accept that the body died
Yes, I accept the body died.But I'll ask again: If Christ didn't die exactly the way all humans die, then how can he be the first of many brethren to follow him from the dead?
your next question is out of the topicQuote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 06 2012,10:05) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 04 2012,20:08) Hi Mike, God's spirit is God.
Trying to draw 'a wedge' between what Scriptures say and what I say (by attempting to change my words) is a fruitless endeavor.
According to you, God's spirit is God. And according to you, the Word in John 1:14 is God's spirit, right?1+1=2, Ed. If the Word is God's spirit, and God's spirit is God Most High, then the following is indeed YOUR understanding of John 1:14………..
And GOD MOST HIGH was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld GOD MOST HIGH'S glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
And since you cannot deny that the above truly is your understanding of 1:14, I will ask you once more:
Ed, why do you suppose that when God Most High was made flesh and dwelt on earth, he displayed the glory of “the only begotten of the Father”, instead of the glory of the Father Himself?
Wouldn't it make more sense that God Most High displayed the glory of God Most High, and not the glory of His own only begotten Son?
Hi Mike, that is merely YOUR twist or spin. I didn't say any of that and YOU know it!God's HolySpirit is part of God most high, like your finger is part of you.
I will tell you again, but I doubt that you will get it this time either.
They beheld the HolySpirit's glory “IN”: as of yet the only begotten
of the Father, because the HolySpirit had not been given to mankind yet.Scriptural References:
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
pared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orged,
LOL
the word “word” has many verses in the bible LOL
you know what you are doing??? you just conclude every “word” you saw that that word refers to the HS LOL
you do not know how to read the context of the bible.
you just dont even care to what john said in john 1.14
john said the Word is the son of God and not the HS>i believe what the bible says.
make your own bible boy LOL
jammy
Quote you are using NLT to prove christ is not God but that version says he is God. study hard boy LOL
YOU DID NOT STUDY HARD ,YOU JUST PLAINY ,FLATLY MAKE A LIAR OUT OF CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD ,
Mt 16:16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
NOW WHY WOULD CHRIST LIE TO US ALL ,BY SAYING HE IS THE SON RATHER THAN GOD HIMSELF,
Quote i believe what the bible says. DO YOU JAMMIN BOY LOL.?
????? 
Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 06 2012,03:08) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 06 2012,10:05)
According to you, God's spirit is God. And according to you, the Word in John 1:14 is God's spirit, right?1+1=2, Ed. If the Word is God's spirit, and God's spirit is God Most High, then the following is indeed YOUR understanding of John 1:14………..
And GOD MOST HIGH was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld GOD MOST HIGH'S glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
And since you cannot deny that the above truly is your understanding of 1:14, I will ask you once more:
Ed, why do you suppose that when God Most High was made flesh and dwelt on earth, he displayed the glory of “the only begotten of the Father”, instead of the glory of the Father Himself?
Wouldn't it make more sense that God Most High displayed the glory of God Most High, and not the glory of His own only begotten Son?
Hi Mike, that is merely YOUR twist or spin. I didn't say any of that and YOU know it!
You didn't? Hmmm…………….Let's find out for sure:
1. Ed, do you think the Word is the Holy Spirit? YES or NO?
2. Do you think the Holy Spirit is God Most High? YES or NO?
Quote (jammin @ Sep. 05 2012,23:58) your next question is out of the topic
Well, I suppose that's one way to avoid my question.
At least you didn't start in with the “nature” thing again.
Quote (jammin @ Sep. 06 2012,09:36) ed, LOL
the word “word” has many verses in the bible LOL
you know what you are doing??? you just conclude every “word” you saw that that word refers to the HS LOL
Agreed.Quote (t8 @ Sep. 05 2012,23:03) Death actually means 'separation'. Soul and body separation.
I agree t8, with this addition:I believe death is the separation of body, soul, AND spirit. The spirit goes back to Him who gave it, the soul goes to Sheol to await judgment, and the body decays back into the dust from which it came.
The point is that Jesus must have died exactly the same way the rest of us die, or he could not be the first of many to be raised from the dead.
If Jesus wasn't raised from the same death we are raised from, then, according to Paul, we are to be pitied more than any other men.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2012,20:18) Quote (t8 @ Sep. 05 2012,23:03) Death actually means 'separation'. Soul and body separation.
I agree t8, with this addition:I believe death is the separation of body, soul, AND spirit. The spirit goes back to Him who gave it, the soul goes to Sheol to await judgment, and the body decays back into the dust from which it came.
The point is that Jesus must have died exactly the same way the rest of us die, or he could not be the first of many to be raised from the dead.
If Jesus wasn't raised from the same death we are raised from, then, according to Paul, we are to be pitied more than any other men.
MikeI agree with t8 ,but is Sheol not the common grave were all go ,even animals
So if this is true then the soul can not go there ,unless God at that point destroyed it ,and we know that this will only happen after the judgement ,
Was not the soul of Lazarius called black to be reunited with his bodyAnd also the the illness has to be. Cleared in his body (like the virus that kill him?). My two penny,s
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 07 2012,13:10) Let's find out for sure: 1. Ed, do you think the Word is the Holy Spirit? YES or NO?
2. Do you think the Holy Spirit is God Most High? YES or NO?
Hi Mike,1) Yes
2) The Holy Spirit is part of God Most High like your finger is part of you.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2012,09:52) jammy Quote you are using NLT to prove christ is not God but that version says he is God. study hard boy LOL
YOU DID NOT STUDY HARD ,YOU JUST PLAINY ,FLATLY MAKE A LIAR OUT OF CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD ,
Mt 16:16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
NOW WHY WOULD CHRIST LIE TO US ALL ,BY SAYING HE IS THE SON RATHER THAN GOD HIMSELF,
Quote i believe what the bible says. DO YOU JAMMIN BOY LOL.?
?????
God the father has a sonthere is no problem with that boy.
i believe Christ is the son of God.his son (Christ) is also God by nature.
paul said that in phil 2.6your father has a son and that is you. just like your father, you are HUMAN by nature. unless you dont want to accept this fact and will say that you are an animal…
does it have sense to talk to a person who says Christ is not God,using NLT to prove he is not God, but the version says he is God.
think about it boy
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