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- June 7, 2012 at 9:38 pm#301449NickHassanParticipant
Hi Ed,
No.
Odd you would take it that way.June 7, 2012 at 9:43 pm#301454Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
What was the purpose you posted it then?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 7, 2012 at 10:21 pm#301458jamminParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,04:52) Hi Jammin, If we as God's teachers do not explain the correct interpretation of Scripture, how will you know what YHVH has been saying?
Eph 4:11-14 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in
the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stat-
ure of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with
every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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you are one of those false teachersJune 7, 2012 at 10:23 pm#301459mikeboll64BlockedQuote (kerwin @ June 07 2012,02:14) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 07 2012,05:19)
To WHAT does the title “the Word of God” refer in Rev 19:13? Does that phrase refer to literal words that God has spoken? Or to God's main spokesman?
Mike;A prophet is the spokesman of God; Jesus is the Emperor of God. The prophets serve him.
Jesus position is that of God's spoke Word and he is carried along by Jehovah's spoken Word in his thoughts, words, and actions.
Kerwin,It seems to me that you are speaking in riddles. I don't remember Jesus ever being called “the Emperor of God”, although I know from the scriptures that he is a prophet of God. Read Hebrews 1:1-2 again, Kerwin.
Quote Jesus position is that of God's spoke Word………
What does that even mean? Is the person Jesus Christ literally a word that God spoke?You know Kerwin, a few days ago you said that you've been trying different understandings, and throwing out the ones that don't fit scripturally. You mentioned that you passed on my understanding a long time ago because it didn't fit the scriptures. Could you tell me which particular scripture my understanding doesn't align with?
Also, just so we're clear: Is it your understanding that Jesus is NOT a spokesman for God?
June 7, 2012 at 10:38 pm#301463NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
God's servants in Christ are led by the Spirit.
Unless the Lord builds the house…June 7, 2012 at 10:49 pm#301465mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,20:10) I've tried to explain to you, that is because of the limiting nature
of the languages used to express the deeper theology of God.
In many ways English does not have these same limitations.
From Webster's Dictionary:
god…………. any of various beings conceived of as supernatural, immortal, and having special powers over the lives and affairs of people and the course of nature.Is Jehovah one of these? Yep.
Is Jesus? Yep.
Is Satan? Yep.
How about Chemosh, who brought down wrath upon the Israelites? Yep.
How about the gods of Egypt, who were able to turn staffs into snakes and water into blood? Yep.
The big difference is that Jehovah is the only one of these who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them. He is the only one who is the God OF the other gods.
Unfortunately, you seem to be under the impression that the word “god” actually MEANS: the one who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them.
Many times, the word “god” REFERS TO that one, but the word itself doesn't MEAN that. The word itself refers to any of various “mighty ones”, or “ones to be revered”. That is also what the word “elohim” means.
So you go on using your own definition of “god”, and pretending that there is LITERALLY only one of them in existence. As for me, I will believe the scriptural truth of the matter, and will therefore not stumble when it comes to titles like “God of gods”, or “God Most High“.
June 7, 2012 at 11:07 pm#301471Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2012,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ June 06 2012,20:10) I've tried to explain to you, that is because of the limiting nature
of the languages used to express the deeper theology of God.
In many ways English does not have these same limitations.
From Webster's Dictionary:
god…………. any of various beings conceived of as supernatural, immortal, and having special powers over the lives and affairs of people and the course of nature.Is Jehovah one of these? Yep.
Is Jesus? Yep.
Is Satan? Yep.
How about Chemosh, who brought down wrath upon the Israelites? Yep.
How about the gods of Egypt, who were able to turn staffs into snakes and water into blood? Yep.
The big difference is that Jehovah is the only one of these who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them. He is the only one who is the God OF the other gods.
Unfortunately, you seem to be under the impression that the word “god” actually MEANS: the one who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them.
Many times, the word “god” REFERS TO that one, but the word itself doesn't MEAN that. The word itself refers to any of various “mighty ones”, or “ones to be revered”. That is also what the word “elohim” means.
So you go on using your own definition of “god”, and pretending that there is LITERALLY only one of them in existence. As for me, I will believe the scriptural truth of the matter, and will therefore not stumble when it comes to titles like “God of gods”, or “God Most High“.
Hi Mike,God: the creator of the universe
Is Jehovah creator of the universe? Yep
Is Jesus creator of the universe? Nope
How about Chemosh, who brought down wrath upon the Israelites, is he creator of the universe? Nope
How about the gods of Egypt, who were able to turn staffs into snakes and water into blood, is he creator of the universe? Nope
Quote The big difference is that Jehovah is the only one of these who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them.
Yes, that is the meaning of “God”; is it not?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 7, 2012 at 11:59 pm#301485mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Ed J @ June 07 2012,17:07) Yes, that is the meaning of “God”; is it not?
No Ed,That is not the meaning of “god”. Nor was it ever the meaning of “el” or “elohim”. It's not even the meaning of “theos”.
The meaning of “god” is: Any of various beings conceived of as supernatural, immortal, and having special powers over the lives and affairs of people and the course of nature.
Jehovah is most definitely one of these, and the Almighty One at that. But others exist – according to the very scriptures you claim to believe.
June 8, 2012 at 12:08 am#301488NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
ONE OF THESE.
You obviously do not know or fear our God or you would not speak like that.June 8, 2012 at 12:24 am#301492mikeboll64BlockedNick,
Were you able to scripturally refute anything I've been sharing with Ed? Or are you just passing judgment on another's servant again?
June 8, 2012 at 3:53 am#301518Ed JParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2012,10:59) Quote (Ed J @ June 07 2012,17:07) Yes, that is the meaning of “God”; is it not?
No Ed,That is not the meaning of “god”. Nor was it ever the meaning of “el” or “elohim”. It's not even the meaning of “theos”.
The meaning of “god” is: Any of various beings conceived of as supernatural, immortal, and having special powers over the lives and affairs of people and the course of nature.
Jehovah is most definitely one of these, and the Almighty One at that. But others exist – according to the very scriptures you claim to believe.
(Link)June 8, 2012 at 3:54 am#301519Ed JParticipant“God” is not a 'person', Mike.
June 8, 2012 at 3:58 am#301521NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Rescuing men from the fire is a blessed thing to do. Jude 1.23June 8, 2012 at 4:01 am#301524Ed JParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2012,14:58) Hi MB,
Rescuing men from the fire is a blessed thing to do. Jude 1.23June 8, 2012 at 4:14 am#301530jamminParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,14:54) “God” is not a 'person', Mike.
it depends on how you understand the word person.
go back to elementary school edjJune 8, 2012 at 4:20 am#301534Ed JParticipantHa Ha
June 8, 2012 at 4:23 am#301535NickHassanParticipantHi Jammin,
Usually you refer to a favourable version of scripture
but not this time?June 8, 2012 at 4:35 am#301543Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Jammin plays 'musical translations'.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 8, 2012 at 4:40 am#301546jamminParticipanted,
you know it bec you are a dream boy
nick,
go to school first and study the different meanings of the word person
June 8, 2012 at 10:46 pm#301659Frank4YAHWEHParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 08 2012,06:59) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 08 2012,06:50) Hi ED,
Someone who is an anointed vessel for God to use.
We do not work ON BEHALF OF God.
Hi Nick,Are you acknowledging that you do not work on behalf of God?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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