JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
So BECOMING FLESH does not make one man by NATURE?
And if scripture says he was a man scripture is wrong?
Acts 2, 2Tim 1

[jammin]

i told he was a man bec he became flesh (incarnate)
cant you see what the bible says?

are you blind??
he is GOD by nature, he became flesh and dwelt among us.

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
No scripture says he was a man.
O you mean the Spirit of Christ?

[kerwin]

Jammin;

Believers are to put on the new man; who is created in knowledge after the shape of Jehovah; just as it is written:

Colossians 3:10
King James Version (KJV)

10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

paraphrased as:

Ephesians 4:24
King James Version (KJV)

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

This is what is written about Jahovah; who is Jesus' God and Father and believers God and Father.

James 1:13
King James Version (KJV)

13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

about Jesus it is written:

Hebrews 4:15
King James Version (KJV)

15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

It is clear Jesus who confesses he has a God; does not have Jehovah's nature of not being tempted as we are.  He  does have his nature of righteousness; as does the new man.

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,09:12)

Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2012,05:49) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,15:24) no they do not. there is no verse that they have the form of GOD. that is just your imagination, LOL do not make people fool i still have a question for you you have the form of MAN, arent you MAN by nature? yes or no? Jammin; In what way do those who live by the Spirit have God's form while those who live by the flesh do not? Galatians 5 King James Version (KJV) 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another. Here is a passage you asked for. Colossians 3:10 King James Version (KJV) 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: col 3.10 did not say that they have the form or nature of GOD> wear eyeglasses boy LOL

Jammin;

image is a synonym of both form and shape as you should well know; since Jesus is also called the image of the invisible God.

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,18:15)

that is right. but im not GOD. i “might be”

Hi Jammin,

I'm with ya!  (Heb.11:40)

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,19:44)

jehovah means GOD the father is LORD GOD the son is LORD GOD

Hu Jammin,

JEHOVAH is GOD
The Father is LORD GOD
The Son is Lord

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ May 16 2012,20:23)

The first is a spiritual man; while the last is a natural man.

Hi Kerwin, you have it backwards. (1Cor.15:44,46)

There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that
which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 17 2012,08:53)

jammin,    Does JESUS have a Son named Jesus?  YES or NO?

Hi Mike,

He never answered my question of who John saw sitting on the throne
in Rev.4:2, and it is doubtful Jammin will answer this one either.
Facing the truth of his belief comes difficult for Jammin.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,14:39)

i told he was a man bec he became flesh (incarnate) cant you see what the bible says? are you blind?? he is GOD by nature, he became flesh and dwelt among us.

“God by Nature”:  “supreme being by inherent qualities”

[kerwin]

Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,17:44)

Quote (kerwin @ May 16 2012,20:23)    The first is a spiritual man; while the last is a natural man. Hi Kerwin, you have it backwards. (1Cor.15:44,46) There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed. J;

I was not speaking of the flesh; when I stated spiritual man and natural man.

1 Corinthians 2
King James Version (KJV)

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

I do not think the order is important.

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:31)

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,18:15) that is right. but im not GOD. i “might be” Hi Jammin, I'm with ya!  (Heb.11:40) Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org

i might be partakers of his divine nature.
that is different with having the form of GOD>

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:34)

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,19:44) jehovah means GOD the father is LORD GOD the son is LORD GOD Hu Jammin, JEHOVAH is GOD The Father is LORD GOD The Son is Lord Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org

let the bible speak

1 cor 8.6
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
To us, ours is one God The Father, for all things are from him and we are in him, and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah, for all things are by him, and we are also in his hand.

[jammin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2012,14:42)

Hi Jammin, No scripture says he was a man. O you mean the Spirit of Christ?

read john 1.14
phil 2.6-7

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 18 2012,04:02)

Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:31) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,18:15) that is right. but im not GOD. i “might be” Hi Jammin, I'm with ya!  (Heb.11:40) Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) i might be partakers of his divine nature. that is different with having the form of GOD>

Hi Jammin,

When you say: “form of GOD” do you mean “nature of GOD” or something different?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 18 2012,04:05)

Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:34) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,19:44) jehovah means GOD the father is LORD GOD the son is LORD GOD Hu Jammin, JEHOVAH is GOD The Father is LORD GOD The Son is Lord Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) let the bible speak 1 cor 8.6 Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) To us, ours is one God The Father, for all things are from him and we are in him, and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah, for all things are by him, and we are also in his hand.

Hi Jammin,

Aramaic is Aramaic and English is English, two different languages;
there is no such thing as Aramaic in Plain English? Perhaps
that is why you also confuse Greek with Latin??

As I had pointed out to you previously “X” comes from the Greek
Χριστоς meaning Christos, not from the the Latin which is Christus or Christi.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,23:02)

Quote (Ed J @ May 17 2012,22:31) Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,18:15) that is right. but im not GOD. i “might be” Hi Jammin, I'm with ya!  (Heb.11:40) Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) holycitybiblecode.org i might be partakers of his divine nature. that is different with having the form of GOD>

Jammin;

Just like image and shape are synonymous so to one who partakes of God's nature has God's nature as they share with others in it.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ May 16 2012,21:11)

you have the form of MAN, arent you MAN by nature? yes or no?

Yes I am.

Angels have taken the form of man, were they man by nature?  YES or NO?

jammin', “God Most High” has a Son named Jesus.  Does JESUS have a Son named Jesus?  YES or NO?

Also, we await your answer to Ed's question:
Who did John see sitting on the throne in Rev 4:2?

And finally, it seems evident to us all that your understanding about Jesus being God Almighty is based largely on your belief that “nature” = “attributes”.  But Carl Lewis was at one time the world's fastest man.  Running fast was an “attribute” that Carl Lewis had.  According to your reasoning, all who share a human nature with Carl Lewis are able to run as fast as he did.  But that's not the case, is it?

Or we could use Albert Einstein as an example.  Do all human beings who share a nature with Albert have the mental genius that he displayed?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,11:05)

1 cor 8.6 Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) To us, ours is one God The Father, for all things are from him and we are in him, and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah, for all things are by him, and we are also in his hand.

The word “JEHOVAH” is not in the text, jammin.  Do you really intend to either persuade us, or defend your own doctrine, by using flawed translations that add words to FORCE the scriptures to teach what they WANT them to teach?  

It seems to me that the majority of your “proof” that Jesus is God comes from translations where MEN have blatantly corrupted the scriptures by changing the text or adding their own words into it.

Do you think if your doctrine was sound and taught in scripture, MEN would have to doctor the scriptures to MAKE them teach it?    Doesn't the fact that men DO have to doctor the scriptures to support your doctrine tell you that something is wrong here?

Lastly, notice the word “and” that I bolded in your scripture above.  That word indicates that TWO are being spoken of, not ONE.  Since the subject of the first part of the statement is God Almighty, the word “and” distinguishes our Lord Jesus Christ as someone OTHER THAN God Almighty.

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 18 2012,10:15)

Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,11:05) 1 cor 8.6 Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) To us, ours is one God The Father, for all things are from him and we are in him, and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah, for all things are by him, and we are also in his hand. The word “JEHOVAH” is not in the text, jammin.  Do you really intend to either persuade us, or defend your own doctrine, by using flawed translations that add words to FORCE the scriptures to teach what they WANT them to teach?   It seems to me that the majority of your “proof” that Jesus is God comes from translations where MEN have blatantly corrupted the scriptures by changing the text or adding their own words into it. Do you think if your doctrine was sound and taught in scripture, MEN would have to doctor the scriptures to MAKE them teach it?    Doesn't the fact that men DO have to doctor the scriptures to support your doctrine tell you that something is wrong here? Lastly, notice the word “and” that I bolded in your scripture above.  That word indicates that TWO are being spoken of, not ONE.  Since the subject of the first part of the statement is God Almighty, the word “and” distinguishes our Lord Jesus Christ as someone OTHER THAN God Almighty.

make your own bible mike LOL

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