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Quote (jammin @ April 05 2012,17:36) that is correct.
en arke en ho logos. the WORD was with GOD. the word is the son of GOD.
the son of GOD was with GOD.thanks for accepting this truth
Hi Jammin,
No that is the false traditional view.
God gave of the Spirit to beget the Son of man.
The Word was not said to have been a son in heaven.Ps 2 shows us the Son as a human ruler aligned with his God-kiss the Son.
LOL
do you think i will believe you? you cant even read your opinion in john 1.1 LOL
what i can read is the son of GOD is the WORD. he was with GOD and truly GOD. that's what the bible says
make your own version. LOLHi Jammin,
Now indeed the Son of God, Jesus Christ is the Word, Jesus Christ.
God in the Word, fused with an ordinary man made clean.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2012,13:15) Hi Jammin,
Now indeed the Son of God, Jesus Christ is the Word, Jesus Christ.
God in the Word, fused with an ordinary man made clean.
Nthis is chemistry,physics, you teaching here ,no such a thing in scriptures
Hi Jammin,
It is the hope of all men.
Eternal life is by the Spirit of life[rom8]
Jesus the Nazarene showed us the way to follow at the JordanQuote (jammin @ April 05 2012,13:39) bec it does not support your doctrine, you dont accept it no versions that says daughter of GOD in prov 7.4
make your own version kerwin LOL
Jammin,The teaching using Wisdom as a female is rather common; even Jesus called himself and John the Baptist her children.
Matthew 11
King James Version (KJV)18For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.Quote (jammin @ April 05 2012,18:00) you know what kerwin i think you should plant some trees to help your country.
you will do better than reading and giving wrong meanings to the bible.
you may start now while the weather is good LOL
Hi Jammin,“Word meanings” given by modern translators are(?) Scripture? <– according to Jammin
Your understanding can be trusted, though it will change over time;
and Kerwin's cannot, though he has committed many hours to study.This level of inconsistency is what you want us to accept as bible truth?
You need to grow-up some more, your understanding will certainly mature.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ April 06 2012,07:21) Quote (jammin @ April 05 2012,13:39) bec it does not support your doctrine, you dont accept it no versions that says daughter of GOD in prov 7.4
make your own version kerwin LOL
Jammin,The teaching using Wisdom as a female is rather common; even Jesus called himself and John the Baptist her children.
Matthew 11
King James Version (KJV)18For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He hath a devil.
19The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
read your opinion kerwinread in prov 7.4 that it says daughter of GOD> if you cnt read it then make your own version LOL
Quote (Ed J @ April 06 2012,07:46) Quote (jammin @ April 05 2012,18:00) you know what kerwin i think you should plant some trees to help your country.
you will do better than reading and giving wrong meanings to the bible.
you may start now while the weather is good LOL
Hi Jammin,“Word meanings” given by modern translators are(?) Scripture? <– according to Jammin
Your understanding can be trusted, though it will change over time;
and Kerwin's cannot, though he has committed many hours to study.This level of inconsistency is what you want us to accept as bible truth?
You need to grow-up some more, your understanding will certainly mature.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
you want me to believe u but you cant read your opinion in john 1.1what kind of teaching is that? you cant read your opinion in john 1.1 and you want people to believe your man made doctrine,
i told you to make your own version so that your man made doctrine wll be supported LOL
Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,14:18) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 04 2012,08:17) Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,12:47) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 04 2012,05:44) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,09:20) Hi Frank
Your source says
“A deeper understanding of this is that he word or doctrine in God the Father produced the flesh [word or doctrine] in Jesus Christ's mind. We find Jesus' flesh being his word in John 6:51 and 63. “Sounds gnostic
Nick,You obviously do not know what you are talking about!
Frank,Your source is long and convoluted. It is also technical. See if you can break it down to smaller bites that the non-technical mind can grasp.
Why is the Word Yahweh?
Why is the Word with Yahweh in the beginning?
Father Yahweh's word is just that, His word. Father Yahweh's word was with Him in the beginning just as my word was with me when I began to speak and still is with me to this very time period. Is not your word with you? If not, who do you believe that your word is with? You can have words with someone, but the fact is, your word originated with you yourself. One can also act as a spokesman of your word, but then again, your word that another can be the spokesman of in fact originated with you. Certainly you do not believe that the one who can be the spokesman of your word is literally your word, do you?
Frank;You are preaching to the choir as I know Scripture testifies that God, his Spirit; and his Word were all there in the beginning. It is all witnessed in what God called the First Day.
I also know that scripture testifies all that has been being created has been being created through her/him/it and nothing has been being created without it as the event of creation demonstrates.
We know there is life in the Word because man does not live on bread alone but on the Word of God.
Even Trinitarian translations speak of these things.
My request is that you simplify your message without compromising God's message so that the simple ones of this world can understand your language.
Kerwin,I was simply answering your questions to the best of my knowledge in plain English language. If you do not approve of my posts and how it is that I answer them, then I would simply suggest to you that you do not read them or respond to them. It is that simple!
Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,14:31) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 04 2012,08:04) Quote (jammin @ April 04 2012,12:54) really?? LOL
give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the word is the father.
i double dare you
you may start searching now LOL
I could also turn the table on you and ask you for a single translation that says in Yahchanan [John] 1:1 that the word is the son.
Frank,Wisdom is said to be the daughter of Christ because Wisdom is a feminine word in Hebrew. Jammin is demonstrating a lack of knowledge as the Word is masculine in Greek.
The English language is not given to such ideas and they translate poorly.
The Word is the Son of God in Ancient Greek; just like Wisdom is the Daughter of God in Hebrew. They are neither in English.
kerwin,This is your idea of simplifying a message without compromising YOUR “God's” message so that the simple ones of this world can understand your language?
I found what you have posted here quite confusing!
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2012,11:46) Hi Jammin,
Your parroting of a mantra shows how thin your doctrine is.
what doctrine do you want?? a doctrine which cant be read? LOLif you want that kind of doctrine then it is all yours. LOL
i want what is written in the bible.
frank,
have you finished your homework? did u find any transation that says in john 1.1 that the word is he father??
you need further studies LOL
you want truth? really?
then accpt what the bible says. if the bible says that the word in john 1.1 is christ, you should accept it. that's what the bible says.Quote (jammin @ April 06 2012,12:18) frank, have you finished your homework? did u find any transation that says in john 1.1 that the word is he father??
you need further studies LOL
As I had said previously, I have never said that there is a translation of Yahchahan [John] 1:1 that says “the word is 'HE' father.” Have you found a “TRANSATION” of Yahchanan [John] 1:1 that says “The word is the son.”? Do you need a spelling lesson?
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 06 2012,12:32) Quote (jammin @ April 06 2012,12:18) frank, have you finished your homework? did u find any transation that says in john 1.1 that the word is he father??
you need further studies LOL
As I had said previously, I have never said that there is a translation of Yahchahan [John] 1:1 that says “the word is 'HE' father.” Have you found a “TRANSATION” of Yahchanan [John] 1:1 that says “The word is the son.”? Do you need a spelling lesson?
thanks for accepting that you can not read any translation that says that the word in john 1.1 is the father.now you ask me if i can read any translation that says that the word in john 1.1 is the God's son.
here is your request.
John 1:1
Wycliffe Bible (WYC)
John 1
1 In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word. [In the beginning was the word, that is, God's Son, and the word was at God, and God was the word.]better luck next time boy LOL
Quote (jammin @ April 06 2012,12:28) you want truth? really?
then accpt what the bible says. if the bible says that the word in john 1.1 is christ, you should accept it. that's what the bible says.
jammin,What “TRANSATION” are you using that says “the word in john 1.1 is christ”? I know not of any “TRANSATION” that uses such wording as this!
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