JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ April 02 2012,19:56)

corrupted??? bec it does not support your doctrine then you (edj) will say it is corrupted. can you give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the WORD is the HS???

Well Ed? Can you?

Nick? Can you show a version where it says the Word is “the spirit of christ”?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,20:54)

Hi MB, So who are the WE who will make their abode with men?

Jesus and his Father, Nick. Not “the spirit of Christ”.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
You do need spiritual eyes.

Your teaching that Jesus was another lesser god before being incarnated is false.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Though the Word was made flesh men somehow think a man pre existed as a lesser god.
It does not make sense.

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2012,11:30)

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,20:49) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,13:04) Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,20:01) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,12:54) Ed and Nick, I read your posts, but saw nothing to refute anything I've posted.  If you ever post something that does, I'll respond to it, okay? Hi Mike, Meaning what?    …you will then adjust your views? God bless Ed J Post something that refutes my understanding and find out. Hi Mike, OK. “Ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me?  yea, there is no God;       I know not any.”    (Isaiah 44:8) God bless Ed J And what does that supposedly refute, Ed?

Hi Mike,

Jesus was not 'a god', as you have suggested.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2012,11:32)

Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,22:15) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,15:07) edj last time Moses was a god 1 Tim 2:5-6 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. ………for there are many gods and many lords, in heaven and on earth……… Was it okay for Paul to “contradict scripture”, Ed?

Hi Mike, you conveniently clipped out the punch line…

“But to us  there is but one God, the Father,
of whom are all things, and we in him;” (1 Cor 8:6)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,12:56)

nick, edj, corrupted??? bec it does not support your doctrine then you (edj) will say it is corrupted. can you give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the WORD is the HS??? LOL no version that says that. but if you publish your own version, your doctrine will now be supported LOL make one edj:D

Hi Jammin, (see Col 2:22 and Rev.18:4)

What the systems of religion have taught you will get you no-where.
You need to understand the bible as a whole to understand “The Word”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2012,13:06)

Hi T, Those traditional prison bars still hold you?

Hi Nick, it is spiritual prison.

Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great
is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of
every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[kerwin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2012,08:54)

Quote (jammin @ April 02 2012,19:56) corrupted??? bec it does not support your doctrine then you (edj) will say it is corrupted. can you give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the WORD is the HS??? Well Ed?  Can you? Nick?  Can you show a version where it says the Word is “the spirit of christ”?

Mike,

The question you ask testifies that you lack knowledge.

The Spirit is the essential Word for the sum of God's Word is love.  Why do you think it is written:

Galatians 5
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 Now those who [k]belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

k.  Galatians 5:24 Lit are of Christ Jesus

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:56)

Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,00:37) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine Pierre, KJV, Cambridge edition. Looks fairly standard to me.  What version are you using? K Sorry ,it is not in two of my bible English or French We see

Pierre,

According to interlinearbible.org it is in the Greek manuscripts which is why I asked which version you used.

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ April 03 2012,14:46)

Quote (jammin @ April 03 2012,12:56) nick, edj, corrupted??? bec it does not support your doctrine then you (edj) will say it is corrupted. can you give me any single translation that says in john 1.1 that the WORD is the HS??? LOL no version that says that. but if you publish your own version, your doctrine will now be supported LOL make one edj:D Hi Jammin, (see Col 2:22 and Rev.18:4) What the systems of religion have taught you will get you no-where. You need to understand the bible as a whole to understand “The Word”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

if you cant read your opinion then go and plant some trees to help your country LOL

[kerwin]

Mike:

You wrote:

It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.

Do you like some believe that Jesus locates himself in a believer instead of just his spirit of righteousness?

I ask because the passage also states the believer is in both Jesus and Yahweh.

John 17
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

21 that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may [f]believe that You sent Me

f.  •  John 17:21 Gr tense indicates continually believe

You also wrote “ It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.”
There is a spirit of Jesus.

Acts 16:7
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

7 and after they came to Mysia, they were trying to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit them;

Philippians 1:19
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

19 for I know that this will turn out for my [a]deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,

Footnotes:
a.Philippians 1:19 Or salvation
b.Philippians 1:19 Lit supplication

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2012,20:06)

Hi T, Those traditional prison bars still hold you?

N

1TH 2:4 but just as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we speak, not as pleasing men, but God who examines our hearts.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,00:15)

Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:56) Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,00:37) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine Pierre, KJV, Cambridge edition. Looks fairly standard to me.  What version are you using? K Sorry ,it is not in two of my bible English or French We see Pierre, According to interlinearbible.org it is in the Greek manuscripts which is why I asked which version you used.

edj

why in there and no other place ??????

[kerwin]

Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2012,21:22)

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,00:15) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:56) Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,00:37) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine Pierre, KJV, Cambridge edition. Looks fairly standard to me.  What version are you using? K Sorry ,it is not in two of my bible English or French We see Pierre, According to interlinearbible.org it is in the Greek manuscripts which is why I asked which version you used. edj why in there and no other place ??????

Pierre,

Your evasion leads me to believe you do not know as it is simple to write which English language version you consulted.

[NickHassan]

Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,19:31)

Mike: You wrote: It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit. Do you like some believe that Jesus locates himself in a believer instead of just his spirit of righteousness? I ask because the passage also states the believer is in both Jesus and Yahweh. John 17 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 21 that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may [f]believe that You sent Me f.  •  John 17:21 Gr tense indicates continually believe You also wrote “ It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” There is a spirit of Jesus. Acts 16:7 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 7 and after they came to Mysia, they were trying to go into Bithynia, and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit them; Philippians 1:19 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 19 for I know that this will turn out for my [a]deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, Footnotes: a.Philippians 1:19 Or salvation b.Philippians 1:19 Lit supplication

Yes KW,
The Spirit of Christ is in and of the Spirit of God.

[terraricca]

Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,12:42)

Quote (terraricca @ April 03 2012,21:22) Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,00:15) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:56) Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2012,00:37) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2012,12:07) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2012,23:44) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2012,19:29) It is Jesus and his Father who dwell in us VIA spirit.  But if Jesus says HE will make his abode in us, then it means JESUS via spirit.  It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus. Hi mike I see you are still hanging around HN, I hope you and yours are well. However it seems that you are still teaching untruths. You said….“It doesn't mean the spirit OF Jesus.” But that disagrees with this scripture and many others… For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,… Phil 1:19     Question for you Mike… Whose Spirit does the Bible say we have recieved that crys “Abba Father”? Blessings! WJ Wj What version of scriptures are you quoting from It does not show up like yours in mine Pierre, KJV, Cambridge edition. Looks fairly standard to me.  What version are you using? K Sorry ,it is not in two of my bible English or French We see Pierre, According to interlinearbible.org it is in the Greek manuscripts which is why I asked which version you used. edj why in there and no other place ?????? Pierre, Your evasion leads me to believe you do not know as it is simple to write which English language version you consulted.

K

that is a stupid answer ,I have checked an dozen of my bibles and it was not found in one ,

either you answer my question and moving on or you don't know the answer ,and then move on from there ,

so let see

[NickHassan]

Hi KW
You say
“Do you like some believe that Jesus locates himself in a believer instead of just his spirit of righteousness?”

Id o not see SPIRIT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS written.

The Spirit is HOLY but surely rightousness is fruit?

[kerwin]

Pierre,

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you as I am speaking of the words “Spirit of Jesus Christ”

Philippians 1:19
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

19 for I know that this will turn out for my [a]deliverance through your prayers and the provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,

Footnotes:
a.Philippians 1:19 Or salvation
b.Philippians 1:19 Lit supplication

Philippians 1:19
New International Version (NIV)

19 for I know that through your prayers and God’s provision of the Spirit of Jesus Christ what has happened to me will turn out for my deliverance.[a]

Footnotes:
a.Philippians 1:19 Or vindication; or salvation

Philippians 1:19
Worldwide English (New Testament) (WE)

19Yes, I will keep on being glad about it. I know that you will talk to God about me, and I know that the Spirit of Jesus Christ will help me. So I know that things will work out for me to be free.

[kerwin]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 04 2012,01:31)

Hi KW You say “Do you like some believe that Jesus locates himself in a believer instead of just his spirit of righteousness?” Id o not see SPIRIT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS written. The Spirit is HOLY but surely rightousness is fruit?

Nick,

I am emphasizing the fruit of the his spirit.

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