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- March 18, 2012 at 2:47 am#285733Ed JParticipant
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,13:06)
“Will you put God in a box, Mike?”
Hi Mike,“The Box” is only used to help others to understand God.
G. The Trins see God as three… <– An incomplete picture
F. The non-Trins see God as One… <– An incomplete picture
<– The HolyCity (Rev.21:2-3 / Isaiah 60:14)“And the [HolyCity] lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth:” (Rev 21:16)
Ezekiel 43:16: And the altar shall be twelve cubits long, twelve broad, square in the “Four Squares” thereof.“To him that overcometh ( ) will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I(יהשוע) also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
but fellowcitizens ( ) with the saints, and of the household of God;
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets. (Eph 2:19-22)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 18, 2012 at 3:00 am#285737terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2012,19:53) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,12:48) N and edj so you both believe that Christ did not came from God his father has he as said right ?
PIERRE,Bearing 'false witness' is a sin; did you not know that?
edjyou could have answered the question but even their you blind
March 18, 2012 at 3:01 am#285739terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2012,20:47) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,13:06)
“Will you put God in a box, Mike?”
Hi Mike,“The Box” is only used to help others to understand God.
G. The Trins see God as three… <– An incomplete picture
F. The non-Trins see God as One… <– An incomplete picture
<– The HolyCity (Rev.21:2-3 / Isaiah 60:14)“And the [HolyCity] lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth:” (Rev 21:16)
Ezekiel 43:16: And the altar shall be twelve cubits long, twelve broad, square in the “Four Squares” thereof.“To him that overcometh ( ) will I grant to sit with me in my throne,
even as I(יהשוע) also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” (Rev 3:21-22)Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners,
but fellowcitizens ( ) with the saints, and of the household of God;
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets. (Eph 2:19-22)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjplaying the pea in the nut shell again ?
March 18, 2012 at 3:09 am#285744Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,14:00) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2012,19:53) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,12:48) N and edj so you both believe that Christ did not came from God his father has he as said right ?
PIERRE,Bearing 'false witness' is a sin; did you not know that?
Ed J
edjyou could have answered the question but even their you blind
PIERRE,I never said that, and what would cause to believe that anyway?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 18, 2012 at 3:15 am#285746Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,14:01) edj playing the pea in the nut shell again ?
PIERRE,Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,
and may enter in through the gates into the [Holycity=117]. For without are dogs, and sorcerers,
and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the HOLY CITY=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
(86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 18, 2012 at 4:45 am#285769terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2012,21:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,14:01) edj playing the pea in the nut shell again ?
PIERRE,Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,
and may enter in through the gates into the [Holycity=117]. For without are dogs, and sorcerers,
and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the HOLY CITY=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
(86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edji just going to luff because you have taken all things out of context ,
March 18, 2012 at 6:42 am#285793Ed JParticipant'Luff' away
March 18, 2012 at 6:44 am#285794Ed JParticipantYou mean 'laff', right? …'laff' is spelled “laugh”: HA Ha ha ha ha!!!
March 18, 2012 at 6:54 am#285797Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,15:45) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2012,21:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,14:01) edj playing the pea in the nut shell again ?
PIERRE,Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,
and may enter in through the gates into the [Holycity=117]. For without are dogs, and sorcerers,
and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the HOLY CITY=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
(86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)God bless
Ed J
edji just going to luff because you have taken all things out of context ,
PIERRE,Have you ever heard of a (ῥῆμα) “Rhema”? …here's an example for you:
“Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.”
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 18, 2012 at 7:40 am#285800terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 19 2012,00:44) You mean 'laff', right? …'laff' is spelled “laugh”: HA Ha ha ha ha!!!
EdjYes, My English is questionable
March 18, 2012 at 7:42 am#285801terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 19 2012,00:54) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,15:45) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2012,21:15) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,14:01) edj playing the pea in the nut shell again ?
PIERRE,Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,
and may enter in through the gates into the [Holycity=117]. For without are dogs, and sorcerers,
and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the HOLY CITY=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
(86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)God bless
Ed J
edji just going to luff because you have taken all things out of context ,
PIERRE,Have you ever heard of a (ῥῆμα) “Rhema”? …here's an example for you:
“Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.”
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjI do not go into discussion over words ,this I have done and do so in privat,
March 18, 2012 at 8:02 am#285807Ed JParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2012,18:40) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 19 2012,00:44) You mean 'laff', right? …'laff' is spelled “laugh”: HA Ha ha ha ha!!!
EdjYes, My English is questionable
Hi Pierre,No biggie, bit if you would have spelled laugh as “LAFF”,
Stuart and TimothyVI would have known what you meant.'luff' made it harder to pick out what you meant.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 18, 2012 at 9:57 am#285843charityParticipantWell the whole “WORD” things very punctographic,
SO SHARP people adapted to see with the ears in order to be punctual for death!March 18, 2012 at 6:03 pm#285899NickHassanParticipantHi,
The Word was God.
Of course the Word would have had glory with God.
By his obedience Jesus Christ, now the Word, regained that glory that he sought.[rev 22 1-3]March 18, 2012 at 6:09 pm#285902mikeboll64BlockedGod cannot be WITH God, Nick.
The Word was a god who was with THE God in the beginning. This is how John wrote it, and that is what it means.
March 18, 2012 at 6:15 pm#285905Ed JParticipantHi Mike,
Can God's HolySpirit be with God?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 18, 2012 at 6:21 pm#285909mikeboll64BlockedNo, Ed. A part of one cannot be said to be with that one.
You don't say, “I'm going to the store, and I'm going to take my brain, spirit, feet, and soul with me.”
March 18, 2012 at 6:34 pm#285915Ed JParticipantHi Mike,
If someone says: 'I left my brain at home' …what do they mean?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 18, 2012 at 6:46 pm#285920NickHassanParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,05:09) God cannot be WITH God, Nick. The Word was a god who was with THE God in the beginning. This is how John wrote it, and that is what it means.
Hi MB,
You understand this much about God??
Or this little??Put away the theology textbooks
March 18, 2012 at 9:50 pm#285956kerwinParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2012,21:08) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2012,23:28) Be like Jesus Christ in your attitude, who being in the form of God, does not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but empties himself, having taken the form of a bond-servant, having been made in the likeness of mankind.
Kerwin,Do you see how the transition from present to past tense in your translation makes no sense?
You told me that even as the NASB translates it, it still doesn't say Jesus pre-existed. Then why would you take it upon yourself to re-translate almost 2000 years worth of Bibles that were produced from EXPERTS in the Greek language? Why would you produce your own nonsensical sentence structure if the CORRECT translation doesn't hurt your non-preexistent doctrine anyway?
In other words, why make yourself out to be one who can't understand simple grammar for nothing?
Mike,The Greek verbs forms do not parallel English verb forms and thus the grammar may seem awkward to some. We see the same thing occur when one that grew up speaking a foreign language learns to speak English.
The experts attempt to adjust for that using various solutions.
I seek such knowledge because I like intellectual puzzles.
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