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Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,06:19) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2012,18:06) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,03:52) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2012,15:13) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 09 2012,01:56) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 09 2012,13:52) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2012,23:57) Hi T,
God created all things.
He sends forth His Spirit and they are created[Ps 104]Through the Spirit of Christ was how all of God's creation occurred-no conflict
Nick,Good point!
NQuote Through the Spirit of Christ was how all of God's creation occurred-no conflict show me in scriptures
Pierre,Psalm 104:30
King James Version (KJV)
30Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
Kso what is the spirit that God send ans it is done
Pierre,Genesis 1:2
King James Version (KJV)
2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
KI can read can you understand what happen
Pierre,God sent forth his Spirit and all that is being created was created.
God sent forth his Spirit and the new creation is taking place.
John 1:1-3,14
ERVChrist Comes to the World
1 Before the world began, the Word [a] was there. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was there with God in the beginning. 3 Everything was made through him, and nothing was made without him. 4 In him there was life, and that life was a light for the people of the world.
14 The Word became a man and lived among us. We saw his divine greatness—the greatness that belongs to the only Son of the Father. The Word was full of grace and truth.that is Christ! he is the WORD! he is GOD! truly GOD! not a false god!
he is TRULY GOD!the thread has been answered.
better luck next time to the dreamer groupQuote (jammin @ Mar. 10 2012,13:30) John 1:1-3,14
ERVChrist Comes to the World
1 Before the world began, the Word [a] was there. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was there with God in the beginning. 3 Everything was made through him, and nothing was made without him. 4 In him there was life, and that life was a light for the people of the world.
14 The Word became a man and lived among us. We saw his divine greatness—the greatness that belongs to the only Son of the Father. The Word was full of grace and truth.that is Christ! he is the WORD! he is GOD! truly GOD! not a false god!
he is TRULY GOD!the thread has been answered.
better luck next time to the dreamer groupQuote (jammin @ Mar. 08 2012,14:11)
false teachers are picking translations bec it does not fit to their doctrineHi Jammin,
There is no mention of the existance of the man Jesus till the angel spoke with Mary.
The Spirit of Christ, the Word, is before then.Men are not our gods but God was in Christ from the Jordan.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2012,13:05) Hi Jammin,
There is no mention of the existance of the man Jesus till the angel spoke with Mary.
The Spirit of Christ, the Word, is before then.Men are not our gods but God was in Christ from the Jordan.
Nbut there are at the least tree men that tells Jesus existed before all things were created ,because he is the first creation ,
WHY DO YOU NOT BELIEVE THEM
?????those are the same men that told us about Jesus the Christ
?are you filtering Gods word
??????and so place your self as judge of his will
it is not about you personal truth but about Gods truth
Yes Nick,
Men with personal agendas, who have a feeling of increased empowerment if they can convince themselves that Jesus was no more than the rest of us, try hard to make a distinction between “Jesus”, “Jesus Christ”, and “the Word of God”.
Scripturally, no such distinction exists.
Jammin,
Quote John 1:1-3,14
ERVChrist Comes to the World
1 Before the world began, the Word [a] was there. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was there with God in the beginning. 3 Everything was made through him, and nothing was made without him. 4 In him there was life, and that life was a light for the people of the world.
14 The Word became a man and lived among us. We saw his divine greatness—the greatness that belongs to the only Son of the Father. The Word was full of grace and truth.Your source translation, the Easy-To-Read Version, is of questionable accuracy for at least two reasons.
•It was mainly translated by one man, Ervin Bishop.
•He used a thought-for-thought or functional equivalence method of translationSome of the more interpretive parts are “Before the world began” instead of “in the beginning”, “divine greatness” and “greatness” instead of “glory”, “belongs” instead of “as of”, and “Son” instead of Begotten.
Did you test the spirit of Ervin Bishop and his associates’ teaching?
Note: My source was Wikipedia entry for version.
Jammin,
If He was the first of all of God's creations then He is not God, For God can not be created. To be God He had to eternally exist.
It was and is God in the son Jesus, reconciling the World to Himself.
God Bless
Marlinmarlin and
terrarica,the firstborn of all creation means supreme over all creation
ὅς ἐστιν εἰκὼν τοῦ θεοῦ τοῦ ἀοράτου, πρωτότοκος πάσης κτίσεως,
prototokos is the greek word
firstbornFrom protos and the alternate of tikto; first-born (usually as noun, literally or figuratively)
Colossians 1:15 NLT
15 Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creationstudy hard
Hi Jammin,
Indeed JESUS CHRIST has been given a kingdom.The Spirit of Christ was before Abraham.
The Word was with God and was God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2012,06:05) Hi Jammin,
There is no mention of the existance of the man Jesus till the angel spoke with Mary.
The Spirit of Christ, the Word, is before then.Men are not our gods but God was in Christ from the Jordan.
when Christ became flesh, he was given a name JESUSChrist (the Son of GOD) was with GOD! he was GOD!
He existed in the beginning with God!
read john 1.1-2 over and over
GOD sent his SON! they have the same nature, GOD! truly GOD!
you said: The Spirit of Christ, the Word, is before then.
where can i read that in john 1.1??
if you cant read that, then start planting sweet potatoes and sell that in the market. you will do better than giving wrong meanings to the bible.
mr nick the pig,
i do not need your explanation.
i want you to read your illusion in john 1.1you said:The Spirit of Christ, the Word, is before then.
where can i read that in john1.1
Hi Jammin,
Jesus was already named.
He became the anointed one, Jesus CHRIST, at his anointing-the Jordan.ill repeat
mr nick the pig,i do not need your explanation.
i want you to read your illusion in john 1.1you said:The Spirit of Christ, the Word, is before then.
where can i read that in john1.1
christ said
“Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 11 2012,13:27) Hi Jammin,
Jesus was already named.
He became the anointed one, Jesus CHRIST, at his anointing-the Jordan.
luke 211For to you is born this day in the town of David a Savior, Who is Christ (the Messiah) the Lord!
there is no jordan river there.
study hard boy
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 10 2012,19:22) Colossians 1:15 NLT
15 Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation
I would think the One that Jesus calls “my God” would be supreme over His own creation.Your source says the word “prototokos” can mean “firstborn” literally or figuratively. What makes you think it is figurative in Col 1:15?
Is there any scriptural reason that it can't mean Jesus was the first thing God ever created?
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