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three persons in one wife.
barley are you taking your vitamins on time??one wife means not one in nature.
the correct way is three persons, one in nature, GOD!
btw, that is not the topic here.
stick to the topic.
the topic is, who is the WORD in john 1.1
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,00:56) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,07:50) 1 john 5.20
says that CHRIST is the true GOD!
No it doesn't. And your Lord says his Father is the ONLY true God.
then read in 1 john 5.20 that it refers to the father.let me post again the verse
1 John 5:20
English Standard Version (ESV)
20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
it says he is the true GOD!
read that it refers to the father in 1john 5.20
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,01:00) three persons in one wife.
barley are you taking your vitamins on time??one wife means not one in nature.
the correct way is three persons, one in nature, GOD!
btw, that is not the topic here.
stick to the topic.
the topic is, who is the WORD in john 1.1
jammin,you have no clue who or what the word is in John 1:1
Certainly, God is referred to as the word, the logos.
But you have not done your homework yet.
Look up the other uses of logos in scripture, the bulk of them refer to a message or thought or communication, the thoughts behind the words used.
When you see that, then you will have learned something.
Until then you have tunnel vision, with no light at the end of the tunnel.
barley
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,01:53) No, it says the One who has a Son named Jesus Christ is the true God.
1 john 5.20 says that the Christ is the true GOD.
cant you read that? have you taken your meal on time?the father is called the true GOD!
the son is also called the true GOD!one father, one son! they have the same nature, GOD!
better luck next time
Quote (barley @ Mar. 04 2012,02:04) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,01:00) three persons in one wife.
barley are you taking your vitamins on time??one wife means not one in nature.
the correct way is three persons, one in nature, GOD!
btw, that is not the topic here.
stick to the topic.
the topic is, who is the WORD in john 1.1
jammin,you have no clue who or what the word is in John 1:1
Certainly, God is referred to as the word, the logos.
But you have not done your homework yet.
Look up the other uses of logos in scripture, the bulk of them refer to a message or thought or communication, the thoughts behind the words used.
When you see that, then you will have learned something.
Until then you have tunnel vision, with no light at the end of the tunnel.
barley
barley,do not explain. i want you read to read your illusion about john 1.1
you said the logos is message or communication.
where can i read that in john 1.1??
mr. dream boy, better luck next time
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,01:59) Oh, and I'm still waiting for you to tell me what scripture says about Jesus having God's nature.
if i can read that to you mike, will you accept that you are a false teacher?Actually, YES jammin. If you can read from the GREEK or HEBREW texts that Jesus has the SAME, EXACT NATURE OF GOD MAKING HIM THE GOD HE IS THE SON OF, then I will accept that I am a false teacher.
Read away.
Now, if you can NOT read this teaching from the GREEK or HEBREW texts, then be a good little boy and tell me what scripture says about Jesus having the nature of God. Tell me how it is different than us partaking in God's nature.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,02:50) Read what to me?
you said Christ is not the True God in 1 john 5.20then read in 1 john 5.20 that it says Christ is not the true GOD.
the father is called the true GOD
the son is also called the true GOD!now read in 1 john 5.20 your opinion.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,02:52) Actually, YES jammin. If you can read from the GREEK or HEBREW texts that Jesus has the SAME, EXACT NATURE OF GOD MAKING HIM THE GOD HE IS THE SON OF, then I will accept that I am a false teacher. Read away.
Now, if you can NOT read this teaching from the GREEK or HEBREW texts, then be a good little boy and tell me what scripture says about Jesus having the nature of God. Tell me how it is different than us partaking in God's nature.
6ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεωstrong's lexicon
3444. morphe mor-fay' perhaps from the base of 3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts); shape; figuratively, nature:–form.Philippians 2:6-7
New International Version (NIV)
6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage.thank you mike for accepting that you are really a false teacher.
“Morphe” means “outward appearance” jammin. And if you'll recall, I already called this a couple of pages ago. I already knew that your only “proof” of Jesus having God's nature was the mistranslation of the word “morphe” in Phil 2:6.
Remember me saying what you would say before you said it? 
Now, tell me this: Even IF Jesus was said to have been existing with the nature of God, how is that different than some of us eventually existing with the nature of God?
How does this “nature of God” phrase mean that Jesus IS God Himself, but at the same time it DOESN'T mean that WE will be God Himself?
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,10:10) the son is also called the true GOD!
Wrong. The One who has a Son named Jesus is the One who is called “the true God” in 1 John 5:20.Hi ,
Within the vessel of Jesus Christ dwelled his God as God's Spirit.
Thus Jesus Christ revealed every aspect of God's nature.
All the gifts and fruit of the Spirit are that natureGal 5, 1Cor12
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2012,19:04) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2012,20:15) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2012,06:32) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 02 2012,17:03) Mike, Being a human being I have both partaken of flesh and blood and been made like my brothers in all ways.
Kerwin,I think it is a reach on your part to consider never being anything but flesh as “partaking in flesh”.
But perhaps I am mistaken. Could you show me a scripture where a person who had never been anything but flesh was said to have “partaken in flesh”?
Or can you find that circumstance/phrase in any secular writing?
Mike,Hebrews 2
King James Version (KJV)
14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Two different Ancient Greek words with similar meanings are used.
And why do you suppose the writer uses a different word to convey the children's relationship with flesh than he uses to convey Jesus' relationship with flesh?The first phrase is most generally translated as “share flesh and blood”, “are flesh and blood” or “have flesh and blood”. The second phrase about Jesus uses a different Greek word meaning to partake in.
But why two different words if their relationship with flesh was equal?
Mike,The children fellowship with flesh and blood while Jesus marries the same.
koinoneo = to enter into fellowship, join one's self to an associate, make one's self a sharer or partner
Meteco = compound word
Meta = with, after, behind
Echo = used of those joined to any one by the bonds of natural blood or marriage or friendship or duty or lawIt alludes to Christ and the Church.
Note: definitions from http://www.biblestudytools.com
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2012,04:23) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 03 2012,10:10) the son is also called the true GOD!
Wrong. The One who has a Son named Jesus is the One who is called “the true God” in 1 John 5:20.
i cant read in 1 john 5.20 that christ is not the true GOD.what i can read is christ is the true GOD.
i do not want stories. read your opinion!
study hard mr. dream boy.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 03 2012,14:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 03 2012,19:04) But why two different words if their relationship with flesh was equal?
Mike,The children fellowship with flesh and blood while Jesus marries the same.
koinoneo = to enter into fellowship, join one's self to an associate, make one's self a sharer or partner
Meteco = compound word
Meta = with, after, behind
Echo = used of those joined to any one by the bonds of natural blood or marriage or friendship or duty or lawIt alludes to Christ and the Church.
Kerwin,The writer uses two different words to convey the relationship of humans to flesh and the relationship of Jesus to flesh because they are two different relationships.
While we all SHARE a flesh nature, Jesus merely PARTOOK of one.
Just one more clue in the Bible that you purposely overlook because it dampers your doctrine.
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