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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 21 2012,03:33) Nick and this one;
Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.
Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
when there were no springs abounding with water;
Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
Pr 8:26 before he made the earth or its fields
or any of the dust of the world.
Pr 8:27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
Pr 8:28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
Pr 8:31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.
HI nick.Most interpret this book as about Christ; wrong again.
If you read PROVERBS carefully; its all about WISDOM:
WISDOM was there from everlasting.
The book of proverbs is about WISDOM,not about Christ,although he (Christ)has all the wisdom.We need to find WISDOM also.v35.For whoso find me (wisdom) findeth life and shall obtain favour of the Lord.
8:1. Doth not WISDOM cry? and UNDERSTANDING put forth her voice??
verse11.For WISDOM is better than rubies: and all the things desired are not to be compared to it.
verse 22. The Lord posessed me(wisdom)in the beginning OF HIS WAY, BEFORE HIS WORK OF OLD.Look at all the WISDOM in the creation,we can see his wisdom
every where; IF WE HAVE OUR EYES OPEN.THe world can see the beauty of it; but refuse to say that it is God that made it; Worshipping the creature more than the creator.
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,13:30) Hi T,
By His Holy Spirit
Nickit says Gods WORK,so all of creation is of God 's work,but did he do it himself
did he use workers ?? has he good workers and bad ones are their positions in heaven among those workers ,??
are those workers interact with men
Nick the word spirit is not bread that you can eat at each meal and table,
it seems to you all his spirit ,
Yes Nick, “things”. Please answer the question.
Did the spirit (ONE THING) bring glory to Jesus (ANOTHER THING)? Isn't that what the scripture says – that one will bring glory to the other?
How can that be if we are only talking about one?
If they are joined together, then one cannot give of what's his to the OTHER. One cannot bring glory to the OTHER.
Nick, it speaks of TWO, not one.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,18:51) Satisfying your mind has never been a priority MB, The two have become one and for eternity
Nickwhat you mean by “becoming one ” ??
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,11:22) Hi WU,
Wisdom is of the Spirit.[1Cor 12]
HI Nick.All is of the spirit of God,even his Word;for God himself is spirit.
Gen1:2.—And the SPIRIT OF GOD moved upon the waters.
If we have that spirit of God in us; all is possible,faith is also the spirit of God. If we say to the mountain,be thou removed,and be thou cast into the sea;it shall be done.
The word of God is also spirit,and he can make his spirit appear as what ever he will.His angels are created spirit with a spirit body.
His word was made in the form of the flesh,then he made it in the form of the spirit.God transformed the flesh body into a spirit body.God can even make the stones to glorify him.The universe is bound by his spirit.
Can we humans phantom that?
God is spirit and we must worship him in spirit and in truth;for God is truth.The spirit of this world is always the opposite.
God said; he created everything: the world says we create ourselves.Satan is a spirit with a body given.
We are spiritual creatures with a flesh body given.
Behold; they have become like one of us,knowing good and evil. Follow the good.wakeup.
Hi WU,
Flesh was never in heaven.
The WORD was made flesh and dwelt among us.
The heavenly body is put over the flesh one for us[1Cor15]Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,19:01) Hi t,
Read Eph 5.30f
NickEph 5:29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church—
Eph 5:30 for we are members of his body.Eph 5:32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.
—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.(Christ THE WORD OF GOD)
1Jn 1:2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us.
1Jn 1:3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ.JN 3:12 “If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?
COL 1:18 He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.
REV 3:14 “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
The Amen, the faithful and true Witness(CHRIST), the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:Rev 21:7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
Rev 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
Rev 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”no ,NICK NOT ALL THAT CALLS ON THE NAME OF CHRIST WILL BE SAVE ONLY THOSE WHO DO IT FROM A FULL HEART ,AND IN TRUTH ,TO BECOME HOLY LIKE GOD HIS,AND ACCEPTING HIS SON ” THE WORD”THAT CAME IN FLESH TO SACRIFICE HIS LIVE FOR US,
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,07:23) Hi WU,
Flesh was never in heaven.
The WORD was made flesh and dwelt among us.
The heavenly body is put over the flesh one for us[1Cor15]
This passage appears to conflict with your words.2 Corinthians 12:2
New International Version (NIV)
2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2012,10:50) Ed and Nick, Well? Did one thing bring glory TO another thing? Or did the Jesus/spirit combo being bring glory to himself?
Which one does the scripture support?
Hi Mike,What 'thing' are you referring to? Bring Jesus glory?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,10:27) Hi KW,
So Paul is not sure about whether or not in the FLESH.
But you are?
Nick,I am sure flesh can enter the third heaven because the Eden resides there.
I am not sure the person Paul speaks of entered in the flesh or not.
The thing Paul was trying to explain was a being caught up in the Spirit. He could not tell if he had left his physcial body or not. It was because the experince was so real to him. if ever you experince this same thing you will know just what he ment. And you will also know that heavenly things can not be explained to others they have to be experinced. He said he heard things that could not be spoken of. It was not that he was forbidden to speak of them it was they were things you would not understand because he didnt. Things that truly come from God need to be reveled by Him. To many look at scripture and think they know what it means and they are just making their best guest. Sometimes we just need to say you know what I dont know that. Instead most poke around and ending up poking their own eye out. I like Paul knew a man some 25 years ago weather in the body or out I dont know who was caught up to the thrid heaven and that is how I know this. it is not just something I read it is something I know first hand.
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