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- mikeboll64,April wrote:
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Quote But even if you insist that is the teaching, surely you know that God is not a “son of man” – as per Numbers 23:19. Jesus was. Mike,
Num. 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie,
DEFINITION: GOD IS NOT A KIND OF MAN THAT HE SHOULD TELL LIES,
DEFINITELY NOT SINCE JESUS AS MAN PROCLAIMED HIMSELF AS THE TRUTH
THEREFORE GOD IN JESUS WAS A MAN OF THE TRUTH!
nor as the son of man, that he should be changed.
DEFINITION: NOR AS ORDINARY MAN, THAT HE SHOULD BE CHANGED:
DEFINITELY NOT :
HERE IT COMES MIKE!
THEREFORE WHEN GOD BECAME MAN IN JESUS CHRIST NEVER CHANGED, BUT REMAINED DIVINE ENTIRELY
NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT GOD THE SON DIVINEBECAME FLESH , THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH
NOW READ HEBREWS:
1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: OK ? ALL CREATURES BOTH ANGELS, AND MEN, SHALL BE CHANGED!
BUT YOU ARE THE SELFSAME,
THE SAME DIVINE BEING AS HE WAS IN HEAVEN! THE SON,
and thy years shall not fail.
Hath he said then, and will he not do? hath he spoken, and will he not fulfil?
DEFINITELY: HE DID BECAME MAN,
NEVER CHANGED,
AND HE IS
THE ONLY TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST!
SO THE PERFECTION OF THE DIVINE TRINITY ,
THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
HARMONIOUSLY IN THE FIGURE OF JESUS CHRIST, ACHIEVED
MANHOOD IN THE SPIRIT, SOUL AND FLESH BODY
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Mike,
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT FOR SURE AS I AM IN EXISTENCE:
GOD WAS WITHIN THE SON OF MAN!
THAT SON OF MAN SUBSTANCE WAS THE WORD ITSELF SINCE IT BECAME FLESH! NO?
YOU DO NOT NEED AN EXTRAORDINARY INTELLIGENCE TO BE AWARE OF THIS!
THEREFORE AS SCRIPTURES SAY:
THE WORD WAS GOD
AND AS I EXPLAINED THE WORD WAS GOD IN A DIFFERENT FUNCTION:
THE FATHER WITHIN THE SON,
BOTH AS A SPIRIT TO CREATE ALL
AND AS MAN TO REDEEM ALL
SO JESUS' FLESH BODY WAS
JESUS'SPIRIT THE WORD, SOLIDIFIED INTO FLESH SUBSTANCE,
THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS JESUS' SOUL
THE FATHER WAS JESUS' SPIRIT!
THEREFORE JESUS AS MAN WAS TOTALLY
GOD'S THREE PRIMORDIAL SPIRITS TRINITY
LOVE THE FATHER
WISDOM THE SON
POWER THE HOLY SPIRIT
THE PERFECTION OF GOD!
WHICH FUNCTIONS HARMONIOUSLY AS THE DEITY FEELS FIT!
SO JESUS EVEN IN HIS FLESH BODY HE MAINTAIN THE DIVINITY OF GOD!
NOTHING LESS CAN CARRY THE FATHER WITHIN!
Quote (carmel @ April 13 2014,01:18) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 13 2014,11:35) …….surely you know that God is not a “son of man” – as per Numbers 23:19. Jesus was. Mike,
Num. 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie,
DEFINITION: GOD IS NOT A KIND OF MAN THAT HE SHOULD TELL LIES……..
No Charles.It says God is not a man, nor a son of man. It doesn't not speak about what “kind of man” God is.
Quote (carmel @ April 13 2014,01:20) Mike, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT FOR SURE AS I AM IN EXISTENCE:
GOD WAS WITHIN THE SON OF MAN!
So God can be “IN” man, but God is NOT man, right?What does that tell us, Charles?
It tells us that God was “IN” Jesus, but the man Jesus was NOT God.
Quote (carmel @ April 13 2014,01:20) SO JESUS EVEN IN HIS FLESH BODY HE MAINTAIN THE DIVINITY OF GOD! NOTHING LESS CAN CARRY THE FATHER WITHIN!
So then the rest of us who have God dwelling in us are also divine beings?We are also “God Himself” because God dwells “in us”?
mikeboll64,April wrote:[/quote]
Quote It says God is not a man, Mike,
YOU ARE NOT A MAN, THAT TELLS THE TRUTH!
THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF THE SENTENCE:
God is not a man, that he should lie,
NOT GOD IS NOT A MAN! OK?
THEREFORE HE IS NOT A MAN OF LIES,
SO IT DOESN'T CONFIRM THAT HE IS NOT A MAN,
IN THE SAME SENSE:
YOU ARE NOT A MAN, WHO DRINK WINE, BUT MILK!
BUT YOU ARE A MAN! ARE YOU?
nor as the son of man, that he should be changed.
THE SAME APPLY TO THE ABOVE!
IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT HE IS NOT AS THE SON OF MAN, THAT HE SHOULD BE CHANGED!
BUT HE IS THE SON OF MAN, IN JESUS CHRIST,WHICH STILL DIDN'T CHANGE HIS DIVINITY !
MIKE, YOU ARE READY TO TWIST ALL RULES IN ORDER TO SUIT,AND QUENCH YOUR TASTE OF CORRUPTED REASONING!
keep on as you are and definitely you will END in the BOTTOMLESS PIT!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ April 14 2014,14:35) God is not a man, that he should lie, NOT GOD IS NOT A MAN! OK?
THEREFORE HE IS NOT A MAN OF LIES,
SO IT DOESN'T CONFIRM THAT HE IS NOT A MAN,
MIKE, YOU ARE READY TO TWIST ALL RULES IN ORDER TO SUIT,AND QUENCH YOUR TASTE OF CORRUPTED REASONING!
Charles,That is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
The teaching is that men often lie, and men often say they will do things, but then not do them.
And Balaam's point was that God was not a man, nor a son of man, so therefore God doesn't lie – like men do, and God doesn't say He will do something and then not do it – like men do.
Are you really trying to tell me that Balaam thought Jehovah was a man, but just not a man who lies?
Come on, Charles……….. get real.
mikeboll64,April wrote:[/quote]
Quote Are you really trying to tell me that Balaam thought Jehovah was a man, but just not a man who lies? Mike,
NO , FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT BALAAM WAS PROPHESYING!
AND CONFIRMED THAT EVENTUALLY GOD WOULD BECOME A MAN AND SAY THE TRUTH
WHO GOD REALLY IS
THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH SATAN WHEN HE SAID:
For God doth know that in what day soever you shall eat thereof, your eyes shall be opened: and you shall be as Gods, knowing good and evil.
WITHOUT REALIZING SATAN WAS TELLING THE TRUTH, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT GOD DID EXACTLY WHAT SATAN SAID,
AND HE WAS JUDGED BY HIS OWN WORDS
WINE MIKE!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,April wrote:[/quote]
Quote We are also “God Himself” because God dwells “in us”? MIke,
YOU ARE GOING ROUND THE SAME CIRCLE!
YOU WILL NEVER GET ANYWHERE!
I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT WE ARE DEAD FILTHY CREATURES!
AND THE ONLY WAY FOR GOD TO DWELL IN US IS THROUGH THE WORD THE MEDIATOR SPIRIT!
AND WHEN THE PURIFYING PROCESS IS ACHIEVED WHICH IS AN ENDLESS TIME, GOD WOULD BE ALL IN ALL
THEN WE WILL BE GODS!
JESUS IS TOTALLY GOD'S SUBSTANCE THEREFORE HE NEVER HAD ANYTHING RELATED TO OUR PROCESS, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT
HE WAS BORN OF WOMAN,AND DIED ON THE CROSS
FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT HE NEVER CHANGED HIS DIVINITY,
THE WORD WAS GOD, AND LEFT THE FATHER, ACCOMPLISHED ALL, RETURNED TO THE FATHER AND IS GOD THE FATHER
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
MIKE,
READ WHAT WE ARE:
ISAIAH 64:6 And we are all become as one unclean, and all our justices as the rag of a menstruous woman: and we have all fallen as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
CAN GOD LIVE IN SUCH CREATURES UNLESS BETWEEN THE CREATURES AND GOD THERE IS A MEDIATOR SPIRIT? THE WORD
But you say the Word IS God, Charles. So if the Word can dwell in us, and the Word IS God, then what's the difference?
Unless you agree that the Word is someone OTHER THAN and LESSER TO God Himself. THEN your claim would make a little bit of sense. (It would still be unscriptural, since Jesus speaks of both him AND God dwelling in us.)
Quote (carmel @ April 15 2014,14:08) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 15 2014,11:59) Are you really trying to tell me that Balaam thought Jehovah was a man, but just not a man who lies? Mike,
NO , FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT BALAAM WAS PROPHESYING!
Balaam wasn't prophesying, Charles. He was talking in the “here and now”.Balak was asking for a curse on Israel, and God offered a blessing through Balaam instead.
Then Balak asked Balaam to try to get God to change the blessing to a curse.
And that's when Balaam told Balak that God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent from the blessing He already pronounced.
There is no prophesy in that passage about a God who will someday be a man, Charles.
mikeboll64,April wrote:[/quote]
Quote There is no prophesy in that passage about a God who will someday be a man, Charles. Mike,
I FORGOT THAT YOU ARE ON MILK!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
You call it “milk”………. I call it “sanity”.
Face it Charles, the only prophesy about God being a man who doesn't lie is in your own imagination – which in turn is driven by your own unscriptural desire for Jesus to BE the very God he is the Son and Servant OF.
mikeboll64,April wrote:[/quote]
Quote Face it Charles, the only prophesy about God being a man who doesn't lie is in your own imagination – Mike,
NO MIKE, PROVE THAT:
GOD IS NOT A MAN,THAT HE SHOULD LIE,
DOESN'T MEAN
GOD IN JESUS, IS NOT A MAN, THAT HE SHOULD LIE
MIKE,
READ MORE OF MY IMAGINATIONS:
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD WOULD EVENTUALLY COMES IN THE WORD ON EARTH AS
THE DAUGHTER OF GOD!
SINCE GOD ALMIGHTY HAS ONLY SONS!
IN ORDER FOR GOD TO REDEEM US FROM DEATH ON EARTH, AND THROUGH HER BE ALSO:
THE MOTHER OF ALL?
AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF SATANA! SINCE HE WOULD ALSO LOSE HIS SUPPOSE FEMININE ENTITLEMENT, HIS LAST ASSET!
Take heed therefore how you hear. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given: and whosoever hath not, that also which he thinketh he hath, shall be taken away from him.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
CHARLES
Quote GOD IN JESUS, IS NOT A MAN, THAT HE SHOULD LIE IF GOD SPEAKS THROUGH ANY MAN WHAT HE SAYS IS NEVER A LIE
Quote (carmel @ April 17 2014,14:45) MIKE, READ MORE OF MY IMAGINATIONS:
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD WOULD EVENTUALLY COMES IN THE WORD ON EARTH AS
THE DAUGHTER OF GOD!
I believe John 3:16 and 1 John 4:9, Charles. I believe God so loved the world that He SENT His only begotten Son Jesus Christ into the world, and GAVE him as an atoning sacrifice for mankind.Jesus is the Son of God – not God.
Charles, your understanding is all twisted. You think God is/was a man, and that we will be Gods. You place God LOWER than He has ever been, and place us HIGHER than we will ever be.
Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2014,09:42) CHARLES Quote GOD IN JESUS, IS NOT A MAN, THAT HE SHOULD LIE IF GOD SPEAKS THROUGH ANY MAN WHAT HE SAYS IS NEVER A LIE
Quote IF GOD SPEAKS THROUGH ANY MAN WHAT HE SAYS IS NEVER A LIE Terraricca,
BUT WHO BELIEVES ANY MAN, SINCE NOT EVEN IN JESUS CHRIST THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE, UP TO NOW! AND ALSO DESPITE THOSE MIRACLES WHICH WERE RECORDED!
THE FACT THAT YOU USED THE WORD IF
THE FACT THAT, THAT STATEMENT WAS A PROPHECY REGARDING JESUS' MANHOOD!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
mikeboll64,April wrote:[/quote]
Quote But you say the Word IS God, Charles. So if the Word can dwell in us, and the Word IS God, then what's the difference? Mike,
A PERSON IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH HIS IDENTITY,AND ALSO EARN HIS BREAD, IN THE TRUTH, THERE WAS ONLY ONE WAY OUT:
THAT HE PUT ON A COSTUME!
DESPITE THAT THE COSTUME IS NOT HIS OWN ENTITY, SO HE GOES ON STAGE IN ORDER TO PLEASE, AND SERVE HIS AUDIENCE!GOD ALSO DID THE SAME WITH THE DIFFERENCE, THAT HIS COSTUME, THE WORD MADE FLESH, WAS HIS OWN GENUINE ENTITY!
THIS PERSON FULL OF LOVE WITH HIS AUDIENCE, DEFINITELY WITH HIS IMMACULATE PERFORMANCE ON STAGE ,WAS ONE WITH HIS COSTUME, THEREFORE HIMSELF,AND ALSO WITH HIS AUDIENCE
DESPITE THAT AS A PERSON,HE WAS UNKNOWN, TO THE AUDIENCE,
GOD ALSO DID THE SAME
THROUGH THE COSTUME, THE AUDIENCE DISCOVERED THE PERSON, AND HIS GENUINE UNIQUE QUALITY!
THIS HAPPENED TO GOD AS WELL!
NOW THROUGH ALL THE ACTS,AND WORK WHICH THIS PERSON PERFORMED WITH HIS COSTUME ON THE STAGE, HE INTEGRATED SO MUCH WITH HIS AUDIENCE,AND ALSO ESTABLISHED HIMSELF WITHIN THEIR HEART NOT ONLY TILL HE DIED, BUT ALSO TILL THEY DIED!
GOD ALSO DID THE SAME
NOW TO HIS AUDIENCE, IT DOESN’T MAKE ANY DIFFERNCE WHO THE PERSON WAS, SINCE ACTUALLY THROUGH HIS COSTUME HE IN THE TRUTH WAS ALSO HIMSELF, WITHIN THEIR HEART!
THEREFORE THE COSTUME IS THE PERSON FOR HIS AUDIENCE! NO?
GOD DID THE SAME
NOW MIKE,
So if the COSTUME can dwell in THEIR HEART, and the COSTUME IS THE PERSON, then what's the difference?
ANSWER MIKE NOW
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!
SINCE THAT’S WHAT GOD ALMIGHTY PRECISELY DID?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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