Jesus the source of all things!

[carmel]

mikeboll64,April wrote:

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It is the people who will not come to Jesus, because they refuse to believe in him, who don't have God's word abiding in them because they have never heard God's voice.

MIke,

CORRECTION:

NO ONE ON EARTH COULD HERE THE WORD'S VOICE

OR JESUS' SPIRIT'S  VOICE,

OR THE SON'S VOICE,TALKING FROM WITHIN THEIR SOUL, BEFORE JESUS CAME, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT SATANA'S SPIRIT WAS IN THEIR SOUL!

ONLY THE SELECT! SINCE THEY WERE THE PRODUCTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHO WERE THE FATHERS,THE PROPHETS, AND SO ON!

THE REASON THAT JOHN THE BAPTIST CAME TEMPORARY PURPOSELY,BAPTISING WITH THE WATER IN ORDER TO PREPARE A PEOPLE BY REMOVING SATANA'S SPIRIT FROM THEIR SOUL!

OTHERWISE, JESUS COULD NEVER BE HEARD!

SINCE HE MADE THEIR HEART OF STONE!

SO YES JESUS ALTHOUGH HE WAS TALKING TO SATANA'S CHILDREN, HE WAS ALSO REFERRING TO HUMAN IN GENERAL, EVEN TO THE JEWS, HIS OWN PEOPLE UP TO THIS VERY DAY

Luke 1:17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias; that he may TURN THE HEARTS of the fathers unto the children, and the incredulous to the wisdom of the just,

TO PREPARE UNTO THE LORD A PERFECT PEOPLE

ONLY MICHAEL HAD THE POWER TO ACHIEVE THIS, HE WAS SUPERIOR TO SATANA! BOTH IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH

NOW AFTER JESUS BAPTISED THE ENTIRE CREATION WITH HIS BAPTISM OF THE BLOOD, THERE WAS NO NEED TO BE BAPTISED WITH THE WATER ANY MORE

BUT WITH THE BAPTISM OF JESUS' SPIRIT

SIMPLY PRONOUNCING THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR GOD:

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER,               THE SPIRIT

THE SON , THE WORD                 THE FLESH

AND THE HOLY SPIRIT!  THE WORD MADE FLESH   THE SOUL

ALL POWER OF GOD IN THE SON THE WORD MADE FLESH  WALKED ON EARTH FIRST AS MAN JESUS CHRIST

THEN IN HIS ETERNAL GLORY AS THE HEIR OF ALL GOD MIGHTY'S ATTRIBUTES AS:

THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST

ALLELUIA!

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,14:29)

What Moses heard and saw, was the being speaking God's words. That being is called the Word; and the Word was with God.

Wakeup,

Did you even READ my last post?  Can you comment on it?

Let's do the passage with YOUR understanding once, and see how it turns out………..

John 5 KJV
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. NO MAN has heard his voice at any time, or seen his shape.

38 And NO MAN has his word abiding in him: for whom he hath sent, him NO MAN believes.

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ALL MEN think they have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And NO MAN will come to me, that they might have life.

Are you able to see a difference, Wakeup?  If Jesus was saying that NO MAN had heard God's voice, then he was also saying that NO MAN had come to Jesus.  And that NO MAN has the word of God abiding in him.  And that NO MAN believes in Jesus.

Instead, these things he said were addressed specifically to that group of people to whom he was talking.  If you want to change “ye” to “NO MAN” in verse 37, then you must also change “ye” to “NO MAN” in the rest of the passage.

Are you willing to do that?

[mikeboll64]

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mikeboll64,April wrote: [/quote] Quote It is the people who will not come to Jesus, because they refuse to believe in him, who don't have God's word abiding in them because they have never heard God's voice. MIke, CORRECTION: NO ONE ON EARTH COULD HERE THE WORD'S VOICE OR JESUS' SPIRIT'S  VOICE, OR THE SON'S VOICE,TALKING FROM WITHIN THEIR SOUL,…………..

Charles,

See how the passage specifically refers to THE FATHER'S voice, but you've taken it upon yourself change it to THE SON'S voice?

Jesus said “the Father”, but Charles changes Jesus' own words to “the Son”. Hmmmm…………….

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2014,04:14)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,14:29) What Moses heard and saw, was the being speaking God's words. That being is called the Word; and the Word was with God. Wakeup, Did you even READ my last post?  Can you comment on it? Let's do the passage with YOUR understanding once, and see how it turns out……….. John 5 KJV 37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. NO MAN has heard his voice at any time, or seen his shape. 38 And NO MAN has his word abiding in him: for whom he hath sent, him NO MAN believes. 39 Search the scriptures; for in them ALL MEN think they have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And NO MAN will come to me, that they might have life. Are you able to see a difference, Wakeup?  If Jesus was saying that NO MAN had heard God's voice, then he was also saying that NO MAN had come to Jesus.  And that NO MAN has the word of God abiding in him.  And that NO MAN believes in Jesus. Instead, these things he said were addressed specifically to that group of people to whom he was talking.  If you want to change “ye” to “NO MAN” in verse 37, then you must also change “ye” to “NO MAN” in the rest of the passage. Are you willing to do that?

Mike B.

You are fullof wisdom; man's wisdom.
And you are fully depending on it.

John 5 KJV
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. NO MAN has heard his voice at any time, or seen his shape.

THIS IS SPEAKING ABOUT *HIS VOICE*AND HIS SHAPE.

38 And NO MAN has his word abiding in him: for whom he hath sent, him NO MAN believes.

THIS IS SPEAKING OF GOD'S WORD.
FOR WHOM HE SENT; HIM NO MAN BELIEVES.
JESUS WAS NOT HEARD.WAS NOT BELIVED.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

Are you seriously trying to tell me that not one single human being believed in Jesus, or listened to his teachings?

[Wakeup]

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Are you seriously trying to tell me that not one single human being believed in Jesus, or listened to his teachings?

Mike.

Jesus was speaking of then.
When He was preaching.
They crucified Him instead.

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring,
***and they shall hear my voice***;
***and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd***.

One fold and one shepherd is to come;
in the millennium.

wakeup.

[carmel]

mikeboll64,April wrote:

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See how the passage specifically refers to THE FATHER'S voice, but you've taken it upon yourself change it to THE SON'S voice? Jesus said “the Father”, but Charles changes Jesus' own words to “the Son”.  Hmmmm…………….

Mike,

READ AGAIN:

It is the people who will not come to Jesus, because they refuse to believe in him,
WHO DON'T HAVE GOD'S WORD ABIDING IN THEM

AND I SAID:

NO ONE ON EARTH COULD HERE THE WORD'S VOICE

OR JESUS' SPIRIT'S  VOICE,

OR THE SON'S VOICE,TALKING FROM WITHIN THEIR SOULS,

BECAUSE SATANA'S SPIRIT WAS IN THEIR SOULS!

SO WHAT THE HELL  ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

IF THEY DON'T HAVE GOD'S WORD ABIDING IN THEM

OR IN THEIR SOULS

WHAT IS GOD'S WORD MIKE?

WHO IS GOD'S WORD

ISN'T THE THE WORD'S VOICE?

ISN'T IT THE SON'S VOICE

ISN'T IT JESUS' SPIRIT VOICE?

GOD IS  A SPIRIT! THE FATHER IS A SPIRIT!

THE SON IS THE WORD ITSELF

THE SON IS THE VOICE ITSELF

ISN'T IT THROUGH THE WORD THE MEDIATOR SPIRIT,THAT GOD CREATED ALL?

ISN'T IT IN THE WORD MADE FLESH THE MEDIATOR MAN/SPIRIT THAT GOD REDEEMED ALL?

ISN'T IT THROUGH JESUS CHRIST'S VOICE AS MAN THAT THE FATHER SPOKE FROM WITHIN JESUS' SOUL ON EARTH?

DIDN'T JESUS CONFIRMED AND SAID:

MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT OBVIOUS, THE FATHER'S AND LIFE?

WHO'S WORDS ARE THEY MIKE?

DEFINITELY JESUS CHRIST'S NO?

OTHERWISE, IF JESUS' WORDS, AND VOICE, ARE GOD'S THEN JESUS WAS GOD HIMSELF NO?

THEREFORE THAT'S WHY:

because they have never heard God's voice.

BECAUSE SATAN'S SPIRIT WAS IN THEIR SOUL!

MIKE YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE DOWN THE DRAIN!

YOU ARE COMPLETELY LOST!

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 07 2014,06:38)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2014,12:27) Are you seriously trying to tell me that not one single human being believed in Jesus, or listened to his teachings?   Mike. Jesus was speaking of then. When He was preaching. They crucified Him instead.

How about Jesus' apostles and disciples, Wakeup?  Did John believe in Jesus and listen to his teachings?  How about Peter?  

The answer is YES.  So apparently Jesus wasn't saying that NO MAN has heard God's voice, or that NO MAN has God's word abiding in him, or that NO MAN believes in Jesus, or that NO MAN will come to Jesus so that he can have eternal life.

Instead, these things apply to the group of NON-believers Jesus was speaking to at that particular time.  None of the statements applied to ALL MEN, or we could include Jesus' own apostles and disciples into that group as well.

And if we include them, we must conclude that even Jesus' own apostles and disciples didn't believe him, believe IN him, or come to him so they could have eternal life.  

But we know that's not the case, right?

Wakeup, as with the other topic on our private thread, I've also said plenty on this subject as well.  There is really no need for me to keep spending a lot of time and mental resources to explain the reality of certain scriptures to you, when you've shown me over and over again that you will continue to believe whatever it is you want to believe – no matter what I say or what scriptures I show you.

If you truly believe that NO MAN believed in Jesus, then I suppose it supports your claim that NO MAN had ever heard God's voice.

If, on the other hand, you wise up and believe that Jesus spoke that entire statement to the ones there who DIDN'T believe in him, then you'll also know it was only to the ones who didn't believe in Jesus that he said, “You have never heard God's voice.”

[mikeboll64]

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Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2014,04:20) See how the passage specifically refers to THE FATHER'S voice, but you've taken it upon yourself change it to THE SON'S voice? I SAID: NO ONE ON EARTH COULD HERE THE WORD'S VOICE OR JESUS' SPIRIT'S  VOICE, OR THE SON'S VOICE………..

Yeah Charles,

I know what you said.  You talk about it being “the Son's voice”.  Jesus spoke about it being “the Father's voice”.

You are at odds with what Jesus actually said.

[terraricca]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2014,08:06)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 07 2014,06:38) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2014,12:27) Are you seriously trying to tell me that not one single human being believed in Jesus, or listened to his teachings?   Mike. Jesus was speaking of then. When He was preaching. They crucified Him instead.   How about Jesus' apostles and disciples, Wakeup?  Did John believe in Jesus and listen to his teachings?  How about Peter?   The answer is YES.  So apparently Jesus wasn't saying that NO MAN has heard God's voice, or that NO MAN has God's word abiding in him, or that NO MAN believes in Jesus, or that NO MAN will come to Jesus so that he can have eternal life. Instead, these things apply to the group of NON-believers Jesus was speaking to at that particular time.  None of the statements applied to ALL MEN, or we could include Jesus' own apostles and disciples into that group as well. And if we include them, we must conclude that even Jesus' own apostles and disciples didn't believe him, believe IN him, or come to him so they could have eternal life.   But we know that's not the case, right? Wakeup, as with the other topic on our private thread, I've also said plenty on this subject as well.  There is really no need for me to keep spending a lot of time and mental resources to explain the reality of certain scriptures to you, when you've shown me over and over again that you will continue to believe whatever it is you want to believe – no matter what I say or what scriptures I show you. If you truly believe that NO MAN believed in Jesus, then I suppose it supports your claim that NO MAN had ever heard God's voice. If, on the other hand, you wise up and believe that Jesus spoke that entire statement to the ones there who DIDN'T believe in him, then you'll also know it was only to the ones who didn't believe in Jesus that he said, “You have never heard God's voice.”

hi Mike

well said but hard to see and accept by others ,some still think that the bible is all about them ,still have that ego but they do not see it and so would swear to it that they have not such a thing ,keep up ,the truth will save anyone that practice it ,

love in Christ

[carmel]

terraricca,April wrote:

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Instead, these things apply to the group of NON-believers Jesus was speaking to at that particular time.  None of the statements applied to ALL MEN, or we could include Jesus' own apostles and disciples into that group as well. And if we include them, we must conclude that even Jesus' own apostles and disciples didn't believe him, believe IN him, or come to him so they could have eternal life.

Mike,

ONLY THOSE WHO WERE BAPTISED COULD HERE AND ACCEPT JESUS' WORDS

ONE OF THE REASON THAT JOHN CAME AND PREPARED A PEOPLE FOR JESUS!

SO AS I SAID,

ALTHOUGH HE WAS TALKING TO THE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF HIM,

HE ALSO MEANT THAT ALL PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE OT. COULDN'T HEAR THE WORD'S VOICE, OR JESUS'SPIRIT VOICE, OR THE SON'S VOICE WITHIN THEM SINCE SATAN MADE THEIR HEART OF STONE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SELECT, THE FATHERS, PROPHETS. AND SO ON!

NOW IN JESUS' CASE WERE

THE APOSTLES WHOM UNAWARE OF IT,WERE ALSO PURPOSELY SENT FROM HEAVEN BY THE FATHER,LIKE ALL THE PREVIOUS OT.PROPHETS TO INTRODUCE, AND ESTABLISH JESUS' CHURCH!

JESUS HIMSELF CONFIRMED THIS AND SAID TO THEM,

DIDN'T I SELECT YOU?

AND IN

John 17:6I have manifested thy name

TO THE MEN WHOM YOU HAVE GIVEN ME OUT OF THE WORLD,   ONE

THEREFORE FROM HEAVEN EX ANGELS .

YOURS THEY WERE, AND TO ME YOU GAVE THEM; TWO

and they have kept thy word.

I pray for them: I pray not for the world,

BUT FOR THEM WHOM YOU HAVE GIVEN ME: BECAUSE THEY ARE YOURS: THREE

OBVIOUS FROM HEAVEN!

11And now I am not in the world, and these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep them in thy name

WHOM YOU HAVE GIVEN ME; FOUR

that they may be one, as we also are.

12While I was with them, I kept them in thy name.

THOSE WHOM YOU GAVE ME HAVE I KEPT; FIVE

and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition, that the scripture may be fulfilled.

MIKE FIVE TIMES JESUS EMPHATICALLY CONFIRMED THAT THEY WERE SENT PURPOSELY FROM THE FATHER TO SERVE JESUS !

THERE WERE NONE ON EARTH TO ACCEPT, HEAR JESUS, AND SUITABLE TO ESTABLISH THE CHURCH! IF NOT FROM THE GENERATIONS OF HEAVEN DESCENDANTS OF SETH!

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2014,13:06)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 07 2014,06:38) Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2014,12:27) Are you seriously trying to tell me that not one single human being believed in Jesus, or listened to his teachings?   Mike. Jesus was speaking of then. When He was preaching. They crucified Him instead.   How about Jesus' apostles and disciples, Wakeup?  Did John believe in Jesus and listen to his teachings?  How about Peter?   The answer is YES.  So apparently Jesus wasn't saying that NO MAN has heard God's voice, or that NO MAN has God's word abiding in him, or that NO MAN believes in Jesus, or that NO MAN will come to Jesus so that he can have eternal life. Instead, these things apply to the group of NON-believers Jesus was speaking to at that particular time.  None of the statements applied to ALL MEN, or we could include Jesus' own apostles and disciples into that group as well. And if we include them, we must conclude that even Jesus' own apostles and disciples didn't believe him, believe IN him, or come to him so they could have eternal life.   But we know that's not the case, right? Wakeup, as with the other topic on our private thread, I've also said plenty on this subject as well.  There is really no need for me to keep spending a lot of time and mental resources to explain the reality of certain scriptures to you, when you've shown me over and over again that you will continue to believe whatever it is you want to believe – no matter what I say or what scriptures I show you. If you truly believe that NO MAN believed in Jesus, then I suppose it supports your claim that NO MAN had ever heard God's voice. If, on the other hand, you wise up and believe that Jesus spoke that entire statement to the ones there who DIDN'T believe in him, then you'll also know it was only to the ones who didn't believe in Jesus that he said, “You have never heard God's voice.”

Mike B.

Thank you for all your efforts trying to reveal your
interpretation of scriptures to me.

All have been given knowledge accordingly.
It is God that distributes.
All are brothers in one Christ.

wakeup.

[mikeboll64]

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hi Mike well said…….. keep up ,the truth will save anyone that practice it ,

Thanks Pierre

[mikeboll64]

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HE ALSO MEANT THAT ALL PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE OT. COULDN'T HEAR THE WORD'S VOICE, OR JESUS'SPIRIT VOICE, OR THE SON'S VOICE WITHIN THEM…………

Charles,

You are STILL talking about it being the SON'S voice. It wasn't. It was the FATHER'S voice.

I believe scripture over you, so give it up already.

Btw, listing 5 times that God GAVE people to Jesus only proves that Jesus was NOT the God who GAVE him those people.

[carmel]

mikeboll64,April wrote:

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Btw, listing 5 times that God GAVE people to Jesus only proves that Jesus was NOT the God who GAVE him those people.

Mike,

When will get it into your mind that God was both in heaven, and in Jesus'body?

Jesus' body was the carrier!  matter!   the word MADE FLESH

Simply manifested God's work!BOTH IN HIMSELF, AND IN HIS WORK!

SO WHEN JESUS THE MAN TALKED TO THE FATHER, HE TALKED TO HIMSELF AS A SPIRIT!

IGNORE THE FACT THAT HE CALLED HIM FATHER, HE DID THIS FOR OUR SAKE!

NO ONE KNOWS THE FATHER BUT THE SON………… AND SO ON

THE FACT THAT IT WAS HIMSELF, DUE TO THE FACT THAT JESUS' FLESH BODY WAS GOD'S SPIRIT SOLIDIFIED! THE WORD MADE FLESH!

NOT LIKE OURS MADE OUT OF TO DIFFERENT SUBSTANCES! SPERM SPIRIT,FROM GOD, AND  OVUM MATTERFROM SATAN!

DURING CREATION THIS SAME SPIRIT WAS THE WORD THE MEDIATOR SPIRIT,WITHIN ALL CREATURES, BETWEEN GOD'S SPIRIT, AND SATANA'S MATTER!

AND WITHIN IT,

THERE WAS THE FATHER'S , AND THROUGH IT HE CREATED ALL!

ONLY GOD CAN BE IN HIMSELF! BOTH AS A MEDIATOR, AND CREATOR!

IN THE SAME WAY LIKE WHEN GOD WAS ON HIS OWN, AND WITHIN HIM HAD HIS OWN SUBSTANCE, THE SON, THEREFORE NOT YET THE WORD SINCE THERE WERE NO CREATURES YET!

Matthew 3:17 And behold a voice from heaven, saying: This is my beloved Son,

IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED!

OK Mike, AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL

the voice of the Father came from heaven, and also said that

HE WAS IN JESUS!

SO WHEN JESUS TALKED, BOTH THE ACTUAL VOICE, AND THE  WORDS WERE BOTH JESUS'

THROUGHOUT BOTH IN  CREATION,AS THE WORD AND ON EARTH AS THE WORD MADE FLESH! MAN/GOD

ONLY THE SPIRIT

WITHIN ALL WHATEVER JESUS DID, SAID, AND IN WHATEVER STATE HE WAS,

WAS THE FATHER'S

SO WHETHER IT CAME FROM THE FATHER, OR FROM THE SON! IT WAS ALWAYS GOD

NO ONE KNOWS THE SON BUT THE FATHER, NO ONE KNOWS THE FATHER BUT THE SON!  

FOR SURE!

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ April 10 2014,15:12)

Mike, When will get it into your mind that God was both in heaven, and in Jesus' body?

Do God and Jesus dwell in you, Charles?

If so, does that make you either God or Jesus? Of course not.

So the fact that God dwelt IN Jesus doesn't make Jesus God anymore than God dwelling IN you or me wouldn't make us God.

[carmel]

mikeboll64,April wrote:

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Do God and Jesus dwell in you, Charles? If so, does that make you either God or Jesus?  Of course not.   So the fact that God dwelt IN Jesus doesn't make Jesus God anymore than God dwelling IN you or me wouldn't make us God.

Mike,

FIRST OF ALL IT WAS  GOD THE FATHER WHO DWELT IN GOD THE SON  

OR

THE FATHER DWELT IN JESUS

NOT GOD IN JESUS

BECAUSE ONCE YOU MENTION GOD, YOU ARE IN THE SAME INSTANT MENTIONING BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON!

SINCE HE WAS IN HIS BOSOM ETERNALLY

NOW!

YOUR PRIDE IS KEEPING YOU SO BLIND THAT EVEN SIMPLE ENGLISH YOU WON'T SEE:

I SAID:

THE FACT THAT IT WAS HIMSELF,

DUE TO THE FACT THAT JESUS' FLESH BODY WAS GOD'S SPIRIT SOLIDIFIED! THE WORD MADE FLESH!

NOT LIKE OURS

MADE OUT OF TWO DIFFERENT SUBSTANCES!

SPERM SPIRIT, FROM GOD,

AND  

OVUM MATTER FROM SATAN!

THAT'S IS THE REASON THAT  WE ARE NOT GODS YET,

BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE THE TEMPLES OF GOD, AND WITHIN US THERE IS FOR SURE:

THE WORD THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD,

WHICH WAS SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! REV.13:8  SEALED IN NATURE BY THE FATHER John 6:27!

SO! IT'S UP TO US WHETHER WE BECOME LIKE CHRIST WHILE STILL ON EARTH!  JESUS FURNISHED US WITH ALL THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS! PLUS THE POURING OF GRACES FROM HEAVEN!

SO THERE WOULD BE A DAY OF THE LORD, AND WE WOULD BE GODS FOR SURE LIKE JESUS IS RIGHT NOW:

THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST AND WE WOULD BE LIKE HIM! FOR SURE!

GOD ALL IN ALL!

THEN I CONFIRMED AND ALSO SAID:

DURING THE CREATION PROCESS, THIS SAME SPIRIT WAS

THE WORD

THE MEDIATOR SPIRIT,WITHIN ALL CREATURES,

BETWEEN GOD'S SPIRIT, AND SATANA'S MATTER!

THEREFORE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, SINCE YOU ARE STILL ON MILK:

GOD'S SPIRIT         THE HOLY SPIRIT   WITHIN OUR SOUL CHRISTIANS ??

GOD'S EX SON, THE WORD  ENTIRELY ALL SOUL!

SATAN'S EX MATTER FLESH AND BLOOD SUBSTANCE DUE TO ADAM'S SIN! CLEAN FROM SATANA'S SPIRIT ON THE CROSS!  

SO ACTUALLY OUR FLESH AND BLOOD BODY IS ONLY INFLUENCED BY SATAN'S SPIRIT!

IT'S ALL IN THE BRAIN MOSTLY!  SINCE WE ACT THROUGH IT FIRST, NOT THROUGH THE HEART WHICH IS THE WORD'S ABODE!

Peace and love n Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

Quote (carmel @ April 11 2014,00:48)

Mike, ONCE YOU MENTION GOD, YOU ARE IN THE SAME INSTANT MENTIONING BOTH THE FATHER AND THE SON!

So when Jesus is called “the Son of God“, he is really being called the Son of the Father AND the Son?

Come on, Charles.

[carmel]

mikeboll64,April wrote:

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So when Jesus is called “the Son of God”, he is really being called the Son of the Father AND the Son?   Come on, Charles.

Mike,

READ:

John3:13 And no man hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended from heaven,

THE SON OF MAN WHO IS IN HEAVEN

THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT:

THE SON OF MAN IS IN HEAVEN, AND IN THE SAME TIME HE WAS ON EARTH!

IN THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT IN TIME, IN HEAVEN THERE WAS GOD BUT ALSO THE SON!

CLEAR NO?

JESUS NEVER LOST HIS ETERNAL DIVINITY, SINCE HE WAS GOD'S GENUINE SPIRIT, SO IN THE FATHER HE WAS ALWAYS PRESENT

EVEN WHILE ON EARTH!

LIKE AFTER ALL HE IS IN ALL HIS CREATURES!

IN YOU MIKE IF YOU BELIEVE!

NO ONE KNOWS THE FATHER BUT THE SON, ……………….

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[mikeboll64]

John 3:13 NET Bible ©
No one 1 has ascended 2 into heaven except the one who descended from heaven – the Son of Man. 3

The footnotes for #3 are intense, but I hope you give them a good once over:

Most witnesses, including a few important ones (A

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