Isaiah 14:19-20

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  • #299166
    Ed J
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    Hi Nick,

    I have done so, but you have continually
    tried to discredit each and every one of them as valid support.
    So instead of our conversation going somewhere, it just continues to go in circles.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #299169
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    then give them VALID support

    Not your numbers.
    Not your own opinion.
    Not similar but the same

    #299171
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    You are reminding me of Stuart.
    He too says he gets to determine
    what constitutes as evidential proof.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #299178
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    You quote the scriptural standards for proof then offer verses that do not support each other only held together by your opinion?

    #299185
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    My goal is merely to get you understand as I do.
    But this takes time, as we have to take many laps.
    Kinda like the children of Israel wandering the desert.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #299197
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    We have done that and found the derivations to be wanting.
    Scripture teaches by witnesses not implications.

    #299203
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2012,10:44)
    Hi ED
    You say
    'Jesus separated Lucifer’s spirit from God's Spirit with His death on the cross.”

    Lucifer was never part of the spirit of the man Jesus.


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    Lucifer was never part of the spirit of the man Jesus.            

    Nick,

    That is a contradiction.

    READ AND REFLECT:

    Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. 16For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren,

    Now according to you!!

    SINCE JESUS WAS BORN IN ALL THINGS LIKE HUMANS IN HIS TIME,EXEPT WITH SIN.

    HOW ON EARTH THEREFORE JESUS WAS NOT ALSO BORN WITH SATAN'S SPIRIT IN HIS SOUL???  LIKE ALL HIS BRETHREN IN HIS TIME????

    HOW ON EARTH JESUS COULD NOT BE BAPTIZED, IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE SATAN'S SPIRIT FROM HIS SOUL FIRST, AND ALSO BEFORE HIS FATHER WOULD DECLARE HIM SO:

    Matthew 3:17

    And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    HOW ON EARTH JESUS SPIRIT ON HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS COULD NOT BECAME SATANICLY POSSESSED AGAIN IN HIS SOUL IN ORDER TO  BE TAKEN TO HELL, LIKE ALL HIS BRETHREN,BUT ONLY TO  ERADICATE SATAN'S SPIRIT,AND LIBERATE ALL SOULS.

    ISN'T IT THAT THE REASON, WHY JESUS IS THE LAMB OF GOD???

    JESUS, THROUGH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, WAS BOTH WITHIN SATAN'S SPIRIT AS A SPIRIT SON OF GOD, TO GLORIFY THE FATHER, IN CREATING OUR WORLD,AND ALSO POSSESSED BY SATAN'S SPIRIT WHEN HE WAS BORN AS A HUMAN, SON OF MAN AND ALSO TO GLORIFY THE FATHER,IN RECREATING OUR WORLD SPIRITUALLY THROUGH REDEMPTION

    ALSO, JESUS’SPIRIT WAS WITHIN THE FATHER WHEN THE SPIRITUAL CRETAURES WERE CREATED  THROUGH HIM BY THE FATHER, BUT CONTRARY,OUR WORLD WAS CREATED BY THE FATHER WITHIN JESUS SPIRIT, BUT ALSO BY HIM.

    LIKEWISE

    THE JESUS'SPIRIT WAS WITHIN LUCIFER’S SPIRIT WHEN OUR WORLD WAS CREATED,BUT SATAN WAS WITHIN JESUS WHEN HE WAS BORN AND DIED AS A HUMAN.BUT SIMPLY TO REPLACE HIM AND OWN THE ENTIRE CREATION.

    John5:19 19Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise

    NOW CONTRADICT ME IN THESE THROUGH SCRIPTURE!!!

    ALL IN HIM, ALL WITH HIM, ALL FOR HIM. BOTH IN SPIRIT AND IN FLESH, BOTH IN WATER AND BLOOD.

    LIGHT SHINES THROUGH DARKNESS, AND DARKNESS COMPREHENDED NOT!! JESUS SPIRIT WITHIN LUCIFER /SATAN

    PSALM 18:11 HE MADE DARKNESS HIS SECRET PLACE!! JESUS SPIRIT HIDDEN IN LUCIFER/SATAN

    THE SPLITTING OF THE CURTAIN AS SOON AS JESUS DIED!!

    NO LONGER HIDDEN SINCE HE REPLACED SATAN'S SPIRIT IN OUR CREATION.

    THE BURNING BUSH OF MOSES!! ALTHOUGH JESUS' SPIRIT WAS  WITHIN SATAN HE REMAINED INTACT.

    Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God (JESUS SPIRIT)is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,

    2Chronicles 6:1 1Then Solomon prayed, “O Lord, you have said that you would live in a thick cloud of darkness.(SATAN'S SPIRIT)

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    #299204
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,
    The body and mind of Jesus was like ours and the dominion of Satan had to be overcome to become clean.
    He was a free and clean vessel for the Spirit by the Jordan through obedience to the Word.

    He was the unblemished lamb ready to be empowered to work as God on earth.

    That lamb offered himself as a sacrifice for our sakes

    #299239
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2012,06:52)
    Hi C,
    The body and mind of Jesus was like ours and the dominion of Satan had to be overcome to become clean.
    He was a free and clean vessel for the Spirit by the Jordan through obedience to the Word.

    He was the unblemished lamb ready to be empowered to work as God on earth.

    That lamb offered himself as a sacrifice for our sakes


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    The body and mind of Jesus was like ours and the dominion of Satan had to be overcome to become clean.
    He was a free and clean vessel for the Spirit by the Jordan through obedience to the Word.

    Nick,

    I would appreciate it ,if you were to expand on the above in order to understand what you mean. It is too confused.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #299240
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Charles,
    We must overcome:
    Sin in the flesh
    Rom 7
    And in the mind
    Rom 12.1-2

    #299395
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick, why do you suppose Jesus said this…

    “Now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world,
    and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name
    those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

    While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name:
    those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost,
    but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.” (John 17:11-12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #299399
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    Yes Judas was lost.

    #299402
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    The unity Jesus has with his brothers now is in the Holy Spirit.

    #299406
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2012,11:04)
    Hi ED,
    The unity Jesus has with his brothers now is in the Holy Spirit.


    Hi Nick,

    Who caused the disunity?     …are you suggesting it was Judas Iscariot rather that Lucifer/satan?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #299416
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    They had no unity except in faith.
    True unity in the Spirit would follow.

    Your I AM theory is a delusion.

    #299427
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2012,11:23)
    Hi Ed,
    They had no unity except in faith.
    True unity in the Spirit would follow.

    Your I AM theory is a delusion.


    1:15 πιστος ο λογος και πασης αποδοχης αξιος οτι χριστος ιησους ηλθεν εις τον κοσμον αμαρτωλους σωσαι ων πρωτος ειμι εγω

    1 Tim 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

    #299428
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2012,11:41)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2012,11:23)
    Hi Ed,
    They had no unity except in faith.
    True unity in the Spirit would follow.

    Your I AM theory is a delusion.


    1:15 πιστος ο λογος και πασης αποδοχης αξιος οτι χριστος ιησους ηλθεν εις τον κοσμον αμαρτωλους σωσαι ων πρωτος ειμι εγω

    1 Tim 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.


    Are you suggesting that the Apostle Paul was chief of all the sinners?

    #299467
    NickHassan
    Participant

    HI ED,
    That is your weak conclusion not ours.

    #299475
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 27 2012,10:39)
    Hi Nick, why do you suppose Jesus said this…

    “Now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world,
    and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name
    those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

    While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name:
    those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost,
    but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.” (John 17:11-12)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Nick,

    How do we become one?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #299476
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,
    If men be will clothed in Christ of repentance and water,
    then his Spirit can be born into them to make them one with him in God, and they will have unity with each other
    if they will seek to be renewed and led in all things by the Spirit.

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