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Quote (carmel @ April 30 2012,02:07) Nick, First of All Jesus eliminated SATAN’ s spirit with His death on the cross.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Jesus separated Lucifer’s spirit from God's Spirit with His death on the cross.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote There is no one satanic spirit that can occupy creation.
His dominion is via his demonic servants.I love you Nick, brother in Jesus!
You know something ?? The Holy Spirit has sparked in you, and although you are in another continent, the LIGHT SHINES IN DARKNESS( Lucifer) AND DARKNESS COMPREHENDED NOT. BUT I COMPREHENDED IT.
LUCIFER IS A CREATED ANGEL. He was a masterpiece of God in every sense.
Lucifer was created as an anointed creature by the Father through His Son’s Spirit, by the power of the Holy Spirit.
He was BALNCED WITHIN TWO CONCEPTS. Similar to us as body and soul.
After accomplishing his creation through God's power, OBVIOUS SINSE HE STILL OWNS IT
He started to realize HOW POWERFUL HE WAS, and through pride he started to lose both light and power from God
At first this was not that harmful for Lucifer, BUT:
Wickedness was found in Him, not Just pride!!
Through this concept of pride, and wickedness, he definitely lost a substantial amount of power. But notwithstanding the fact that this occurred, he still carried on with his normal work, without being aware of it. For the simple reason that:
God the Father, who is love, and charity from the other hand had to help Lucifer in order, not to lose him, not to let him considering the lack of power as detriment for his freedom, and also not to think that God is in a way troubled, therefore not omnipotent at all. So while God supplied him with the equivalent light/power through His Son’s spirit as a mediator within him, to be able to carry out his work, kept him balanced, simultaneously, again through His Son’s spirit was all the time within a conflict to put him back to the right level of light. But all depended on the free will of Lucifer. God wouldn’t make him light again against his will.
Lucifer from the other hand, although a genius, realized that notwithstanding the fact that he was building this pride, and eventually also entered into a conflict with his creator, and still maintained the same power, he became more convinced that he could be autonomous, totally independent from God. So due to the wickedness within him he became total darkness and the equivalent light supplied by God, through Jesus was of no use he simply couldn't comprehends it. TOTALLY BLIND
Mark 4:25 For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath .
God as a loving God tolerated and accepted Lucifer’s state, and humbly, patiently, and charitably respected his free will, and simply did all according to Lucifer’s will, through Jesus’ Spirit. THE ELDER SERVES THE YOUNGER,
Genesis 25:23And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; GENERATIONS OF HEAVEN AND GENERATIOS OF EARTH. and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the ELDER shall serve the YOUNGER. in order to get him back to the original state even still.
Only through God’s loving way, he eventually would achieve to be LIKE THE MOST HIGH GOD, and on the last day of the Lord, he would experience what a kind of love God is. LOVE ITSELF.
So that was it!!
God through His Son’s Spirit by the power of the Holy Spirit within Lucifer became both good and evil, both light and darkness, both the wrath of God and the love of God, perfect justice being in Jesus’ substance.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Lucifer, flooded his world since it was created according to God’s policies, and the only human angel state being that survived was DAVID Due to this global destruction a war took place ,and Michael backed by God, sent Lucifer and his angels to earth. (psalm 18:1:20)
So Lucifer now became god of the earth, and believed that as an autonomous being, was in a position to establish his policies . He would be respected by God as a direct opponent in every sense therefore he would be in the position to establish new principals which the world would eventually be accordingly created, and ruled.
He would be the visible spirit matter, and God the invisible Spirit. Through this concept both would be equivalently involved in the CREATION and MAKING of the new world.
Matthew 10:25It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord.
WHAT IS SPIRIT IS BORN OF THE SPIRIT GOD, WHAT IS MATTER IS BORN OF THE MATTER GOD. He became like the Most High, creator of his visible world. So our material world itself is the ex spiritual body of Lucifer, and in the centre of it is the ex spirit of Lucifer ,Satan in hell his abode, Satan’s kingdom. Unaware that he was powerless, and Jesus’ Spirit was using him as His tool, Satan, EX LUCIFER’S SPIRIT, right from the highest heath of hell, but protected from complete annihilation by Jesus’ Spirit commenced our world.
Lucifer believed that once his spiritual body would be transformed into matter, his evil spirit would be eternally accepted, and only he would be able to abide in this filthy state substance. Not only that, but he could make use of that body, as much as he wanted,without corroding the flesh body and in the same time, would be ahead of God in the process. Foolishly thought by a berserk genius!!!!
God is a pure good spiritual being, his task was to create the, body ,soul and spirit creature ( Mary His mother) through Jesus’ Spirit. Also through the power of the Holy Spirit, He would supply all souls and bodies through Jesus’ Spirit THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE IN THE EVOLUTION SYSTEM, practically sacrificing Jesus’ Spirit, in order for God to abide within these inferior flesh beings .
Lucifer was unaware of the surprise when eventually the first man, a living soul Adam would be created.
Satan THOUGHT, by acquiring the souls, and abide within, it would not be possible for this divine person to be born, for the simple reason that since humans were his original substance transformed into matter, God would be too powerful for his creatures, and would not withstand God’s Spirit within them, and eventually would be totally annihilated. Therefore only He would eventually be in a position to become man, again foolishly concluded.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
So, Lucifer after settled all matters with God, under the impression that he was going to recreate the negative side of our material world, and flesh, and God would be responsible for the positive side of our material world ,and the souls, was thrown like a lightening in the centre of the world by the insertion of God’s Spirit through the power of the HOLY SPIRIT in His Son within Lucifer to be furnished with the maximum power possible.
Keep in mind that where Lucifer was created balanced between two spirits, through the state of complete darkness, BOTH SPIRITS BECAME wickedly powerful, BUT ALWAYS ,AND ONLY THROUGH JESUS SPIRIT'S POWER.
So Jesus’ spirit actually was in conflict with HIMSELF through the power of the Holy Spirit, exactly on insertion WITHIN LUCIFER. It’s like the Father against the Son.
SATAN WAS NOT INVOVLVED AT ALL (like you said)
JESUS WAS DOING AL
L LUCIFER'S EVIL WORK FOR HIM ,SERVING HIM, ACHIEVEING LUCIFER’S PLAN THROUGH HIMSELF BY HIS POWER.THE MOST SIMPLE PLAN FOR GOD, BECAME MAN THROUGH HIS OPPONENT'S DREAM.
I am in the Father and the Father is in me BING BANG!!
AND I WONDER WHAT A BIG BANG IT WAS ,A CLASH BETWEEN THE FATHER AND THE SON, WHAT A HUG, THE FIRST EVER DIVINE MARRIAGE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL.
Oh no! GOOD AND GOOD, wow!! I LET YOU ESTABLISH YOURSELF WHAT ACTUALLY WAS!!!
I have to repeat this IT IS ABSOLUTE LIGHT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH NICK AND HE MADE ME COMPREHEND IT!!
So all the evil actions no matter what where coming from Jesus’ spirit after all not from Satan since he was powerless.(OT). But in the same time Jesus was not committing any evil Himself it was Satan’s will. AND A LOVING GOD WOULD ALLOW TOTAL FREEDOM TO HIS CREATURES AND THROUGH IT HE WOULD LEAD THEM INTO PERFECTION.
Matthew 18:7 Woe to the world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but nevertheless WOE TO THAT MAN BY WHOM THE SCANDAL COMETH .
Reflect on Matthew 18:7:
This is a reference to Jesus as man, which WAS ABOUT TO BE crucified for all the sins committed in the entire creation,HE COMMITTED AND NOT COMMITTED ,after all if He didn’t supplied the power, Satan would have done nothing.
This mysterious BOTH unification AND NOT of good and evil, spirit and matter, ( THE FIRST EVER MARRIAGE)would remain so throughout, till the first MAN(SPIRIT) “Jesus” BORN OF A WOMAN(MATTER) “Jesus” is born through both in the spiritual and matter conception act ,both in these spirits as:
ONE IN THE MATTER,AND ONE IN THE SPIRIT All in Jesus
SON OF GOD AND SON OF MAN. HYPOSTATIC UNION. All in Jesus
AS THE WRATH OF GOD AND THE LOVE OF GOD PERFECT JUSTICE IN ONE BODY All in Jesus
lived in that state in this world, IN BOTH SPIRITS, died, IN BOTH SPIRITS ,TAKEN TO HELL IN BOTH SPIRITS was tested by FIRE ,and the one who was most powerful glorified as BOTH A SPIRIT AND FLESH BEING FOR ETERNITY.
I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA,I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST, THE BEGINNING AND THE END.
I wonder how those mysterious and hidden18 years in the life of Jesus were fulfilled
?Yes I am excpecting all sorts of opposing comments so go ahead enjoy,my enjoyment is that I reveal what has been revealed to me by the author of ALL.
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
Charles
Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2012,02:32) Quote (carmel @ April 30 2012,02:07) Nick, First of All Jesus eliminated SATAN’ s spirit with His death on the cross.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,Jesus separated Lucifer’s spirit from God's Spirit with His death on the cross.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote Jesus separated Lucifer’s spirit from God's Spirit with His death on the cross. God bless
Edj,
scriptures please!!!
ALL CREATURES WERE AND STILL ARE SEPARATED FROM GOD'S SPIRIT SINCE THE FIRST DAY OF THE ENTIRE CREATION.
JESUS RECONCILED WITHIN HIMSELF ALL CREATURES THROUGH HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS,BUT THROUGH THE ELIMINATION OF SATAN'S SPIRIT FROM OUR CREATION.
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Hi Charles,
“At the mouth of three witnesses,
shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:
1. cast out of thy grave
2. like an abominable branch
3. thrust through with a swordIsa.14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.All the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in [Jesus] bodily. (Col.2:9)
Similarly, we are also a part of the body of Christ. (1Cor. 12:27)So we may then conclude that all of us, plus the fullness of the Godhead,
are all part of the whole body of Christ. Did not GOD also create {Lucifer}
and how is Lucifer connected to the body of Christ? Only in death was Lucifer
connected to the body of Christ. The key is found in Isaiah 14:19: thou art cast
out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain,
thrust through with a sword. Jesus is the only person (so far) whose body was cast out
of the grave. His body was also thrust through with a spear. Jesus is furthermore called
the branch in Zechariah 3:8. But the significant difference here is these things happened
to Jesus’ body after He was (a corpse)dead; “the body of sin”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEdj,
Satan is Lucifer's spirit when he was an angel!
When Lucifer was sent to the world in order for God through Jesus' Spirit to commence our creattion, Lucifer was separated from his spiritual body. therefore his spirit became Satan and was and still is in hell,but his spiritual body became our material world,therefore THE PRE ADAMITES.
GOD TRANSFORMED THE LAST PRE ADAMITE ON ITS EXTINCTION AND CREATED THE FIRST MAN IN FLESH AND BLOOD,BUT GAVE HIM THE FIRST EVER SOUL AND BECAME A LIVING SOUL, THEREFORE ADAM. SATAN KNEW THAT IT WAS HIS EX SUBSTANCE FROM THE EX ANGEL LUCIFER, AND HE BELIEVED THAT IF HE SUCCEED IN ACQUIRING ADAM'S BODY ,HE WOULD BE ENTITLED TO BECOME MAN AND GLORIFY.
THE SURPRISE FOR LUCIFER WAS THAT ADAM'S BODY, SINCE HE WAS A NEW CREATION FROM GOD, TRANSFORMED FROM EX SATAN'S WORLD TO PROOF HIS SUPERIORITY,AND OWNED JESUS' FIRST SOUL ( THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE) WAS IN FACT AN OPPONENT,SO A WAR STARTED AS SOON AS SATAN'S SPIRIT ENTERRED ADAM'S SOUL TO POSSESS HIM.
So he lost the battle exactly on the possession of his soul.peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Hi Charles,
You agree with my previous post then?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 30 2012,03:29) Hi Charles, “At the mouth of three witnesses,
shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:
1. cast out of thy grave
2. like an abominable branch
3. thrust through with a swordIsa.14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.All the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in [Jesus] bodily. (Col.2:9)
Similarly, we are also a part of the body of Christ. (1Cor. 12:27)So we may then conclude that all of us, plus the fullness of the Godhead,
are all part of the whole body of Christ. Did not GOD also create {Lucifer}
and how is Lucifer connected to the body of Christ? Only in death was Lucifer
connected to the body of Christ. The key is found in Isaiah 14:19: thou art cast
out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain,
thrust through with a sword. Jesus is the only person (so far) whose body was cast out
of the grave. His body was also thrust through with a spear. Jesus is furthermore called
the branch in Zechariah 3:8. But the significant difference here is these things happened
to Jesus’ body after He was (a corpse)dead; “the body of sin”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi ED,
They do not say the same thing.
False witnesses.The stuff about Lucifer and God is also not of our scriptures.
Where do you derive such nonsense?Hi Nick,
I have explained all this to you in this thread.
Perhaps you should re-read the entire thread?1. cast out of thy grave
2. like an abominable branch
3. thrust through with a swordThe “HolySpirit” resurrected Jesus:
1) Luke 24:3 and John 20:13
2) Zech 3:8 and Zech 6:12
3) John 19:34 and Luke 2:35God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
But you have not found credible witnesses.
They need to SAY THE SAME THING not have a surface similarity.Hi Nick,
What do you call credible?
God's word is not credible?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,
The word of God is truth,
But you must let it speak without influence.Your hand is all over over your derivations.
edj
no answer
??edj
you think I have a lack of knowledge in scriptures and so will probably not be saved ?
or to much false believes in my heart and brain that would end up in my rejection from Christ ?
is this your message EDJ?
Edited by terraricca on April 26 2012,22:21
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2012,13:59) Hi Ed,
The word of God is truth,
But you must let it speak without influence.Your hand is all over over your derivations.
Nyou should do that as well ,good advise
Quote (terraricca @ April 30 2012,15:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2012,13:59) Hi Ed,
The word of God is truth,
But you must let it speak without influence.Your hand is all over over your derivations.
Nyou should do that as well ,good advise
Hi Pierre,“What's good for the goose is good for the gander.” ~ unknown
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ April 30 2012,03:29) Hi Charles, “At the mouth of three witnesses,
shall the matter be established.” (Deut 19:15)These three points of focus “DO” establish the matter:
1. cast out of thy grave
2. like an abominable branch
3. thrust through with a swordIsa.14:19-20 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,
and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword,
that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20: Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed
thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.All the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in [Jesus] bodily. (Col.2:9)
Similarly, we are also a part of the body of Christ. (1Cor. 12:27)So we may then conclude that all of us, plus the fullness of the Godhead,
are all part of the whole body of Christ. Did not GOD also create {Lucifer}
and how is Lucifer connected to the body of Christ? Only in death was Lucifer
connected to the body of Christ. The key is found in Isaiah 14:19: thou art cast
out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain,
thrust through with a sword. Jesus is the only person (so far) whose body was cast out
of the grave. His body was also thrust through with a spear. Jesus is furthermore called
the branch in Zechariah 3:8. But the significant difference here is these things happened
to Jesus’ body after He was (a corpse)dead; “the body of sin”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
[/QUOTE]Edj,
I hope you read my long post.
Lucifer, and Jesus were always united. First as an angel then as a human for the first time in Adam.
From then on, they remained so till Jesus through His baptism removed Satan’s (Lucifer)spirit temporary to accomplish His spiritual light teaching. This He did for the simple reason that in the OT He could only discipline His people carnal wise, since the soul was death, through Satan’s possession, and there was no way for God to communicate with humans through the soul.
So Satan had his role, through God’s power, since he was god of the CARNAL world , and was continuously interfering within their souls and made their heart of stone, and creatures were only living through the knowledge of evil as good.
So He purposely temporarily for the first time ever, removed Satan’s spirit from His body, first to demonstrate His superiority, and second to be fully God both in flesh and in spirit, and in order to accomplish God’s mission.When Jesus accomplished his mission, He again on His death received Satan’s spirit in order to take him to hell as his procedure. When he wanted to stop in his comfortable place in hell, since he was in command, and still not yet condemned, he realized, obvious by the Holy Spirit, that he was taken further down into the hottest part of fire, and started to feel the heat for the first time ever NOT ONLY THROUGH HELL FIRE ,BUT ALSO THROUGH THE HOLY GHOST FIRE FROM JESUS SOUL GLORIFIED AS GODMAN HIMSELF. The only way out on his free will was, to let go of Jesus’ soul.
It was the first time ever that Satan took a soul with him to hell AND HE HIMSELF LET IT GO FREE ACCORDING TO HIS WILL. By doing this , he saw Jesus in flesh and bones in the hottest part of hell without being consumed, and admit by saying, MY LORD AND MY GOD. (MOSES' BUSH IN FIRE)
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire
And here comes what you said in your post :
But the significant difference here is these things happened
to Jesus’ body after He was (a corpse)dead; “the body of sin”.While Jesus was sorting out Satan’s spirit in hell, on the cross the one eyed Longinus symbolically Satan himself, was piercing his own sinful body, and his left eye opened and said this is
THE SON OF GOD.Satan destroyed himself by his own assets like Goliath
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,08:32) Hi C,
Vain theology
Hi Nick,Sounds more like a novel than any theology.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi teraricca,Nick,and Edj,
I never expect any possitive response from LUCIFER AS HUMAN like me! God is patient and one second is equal to one million years and vice versa!
I am only doing what I am enlightened to do!
This is the end times,and others will reveal these things,and only those who CONSIDER THEMSELVES FOOLS will accept God's wisdom.
DEUTERONOMY 29: 4Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day
1 Corinthians1:20 WHERE IS THE WISE? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For seeing that in the wisdom of God the world, by wisdom, knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of our preaching, to save them that believe. 22 For both the Jews require signs, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: 24 But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For see your vocation, brethren, that there are not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble: 27 But the foolish things of the world hath God chosen, that he may confound the wise; and the weak things of the world hath God chosen, that he may confound the strong. 28 And the base things of the world, and the things that are contemptible, hath God chosen, and things that are not, that he might bring to nought things that are: 29 That no flesh should glory in his sight. 30 But of him are you in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and justice, and sanctification, and redemption: 31 That, as it is written: He that glorieth, may glory in the Lord.
peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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