Isaiah 14:19-20

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charles and Nick

you two guys are the same ,no difference ,like twin brothers ,lost short meaning NO TRUTH , long speech,very little ,meaning and truth ,in understanding you both have ,zero,none ,always begging to receive more ,but have none to share,

always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

and even then it is not always true the ways you guy's presenting your personal religion views.

so for all it is worth ,you are useless to anyone that looking for Gods truth, AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF QUOTES TO PROVE IT .

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always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

Teraricca,

Quit talking nonsense,

since you are on meat,and I am on milk !!!

tell me then so I can learn

WHAT Math 13;44 MEAN!!!

charles

Math 13;44

Mt 13:44 “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.
Mt 13:45 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls.
Mt 13:46 When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.

what Christ pointing out is for those, who ,the kingdom is the most important thing in their lives so that they would sell all what they have to exchange it for the kingdom of heaven,those are the true sons of the kingdom (144K)

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Teraricca,

they would sell all what they have to exchange it for the kingdom of heaven,

That is equivalent to this:

thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.”

What is the equivalent to this:

the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found,
he hideth,

In your interpretation the kingdom is the field.

what about the treasure???

Why would one FIND A TREASURE AND HIDES THE TREASURE IN A FIELD ,AND BY THE FIELD???

Now read again:

“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found,
he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.” (Matt 13:44)

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CHARLES

April 23, 2012 at 9:19 pm#294438

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WHAT Math 13;44 MEAN!!!

Hi Charles, perhaps you wanted Pierre to answer, but here is the answer nonetheless…

“But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss
for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss
of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ” (Phil 3:7-8)

God bless
Ed J

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for whom I have suffered the loss
of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ”

OK Edj,

What did Paul refer to by:

for whom I have suffered the loss
of all things, and do count them but dung,

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

Hi Charles,

He suffered the loss of all things 'physical'
to gain that which is “Spiritual”, Christ our Lord.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

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He suffered the loss of all things 'physical'
to gain that which is “Spiritual”, Christ our Lord.

Edj,

thanks now I understood Matthew 13:44

April 23, 2012 at 9:21 pm#294439

(LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

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Hi Charles, (144,000 is a symbolic number)

Melchizedek was a “King Priest” office
rather than just merely a person.
Jesus Christ fills this office.
(Shem was Melchizedek)

“Blessed be the LORD God of Shem” (Gen 9:26)
“Tents of Shem” equal 144

Genesis 9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in
the tents of Shem(144); and Canaan(Ham's son) shall be his servant.

The Holy City, New Jerusalem (Rev 21:16-17 )

The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof,
an hundred and forty and four(144) cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and
no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand(144,000), which were redeemed from the earth.

Here's where it starts to get interesting

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed
an hundred and forty and four thousand(144,000) of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

“an hundred and forty and four thousand“ – equals 373 (which is the 74th Prime number)

Here's where it starts to get's even more interesting

“JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS”=373 (John 19:19)
This most popular phrase curiously adds up to the 74th prime number: 373.
Furthermore: “The King” equals 74 as well, which is at the center of this complete phrase.

The significance of the number 74

In English, the significant number 74 is attributed to “JOSHUA”=74 and “Messiah”=74; also
in the following: “JESUS”=74, “Cross”=74, “Gospel”=74, and even “English”=74.

“Jesus Christ” (74×32) also factors 74 in Greek Theomatically:
[Jesus] Ιησους=74(x12), [Christ] Χριστоς=74(x20).
[Son of Man] υιος τον ανθρωπου=74(x40).

And even GEMATRIA equals 74.
GEMATRIA: words converted to numbers.

Your friend!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 23, 2012 at 9:49 pm#294440

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Hi Charles,

Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming
down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Theomatically:
“The Holy City, New Jerusalem” (= 74 x4)

How do you connect Matt.6:10, which was before “Pentecost“=117
to Rev.21:2-3 (which is a reference to to God's “Feast of Booths”)?

Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the Holy City=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
(86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

April 23, 2012 at 9:52 pm#294441

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Hi Charles,

“Jesus Christ”(151) was “The Testator”(151): “Jesus”(74) remediated our
Testament with “GOD”(26); and “Testament”(117) in Greek is “Diatheke”(63).

God's Signature
Proof of God=117
GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

“Testament”=117 in Greek is “Diatheke”= 63.

Jesus death on the cross remediated our “Testament”=117 with GOD; יהוה האלהים=117(JEHOVAH GOD). (Jer.31:31-34)

“The Testator”=151 was “Jesus Christ”=151

(Heb.9:15-17: For this cause He (Jesus) is the mediator of the New Testament, that by means of death, for
the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first (Old) Testament, that they which are called
might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a Testament is, there must also of necessity
be the death of “The Testator”=151. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of
NO STRENGTH AT ALL WHILE THE TESTATOR LIVES.) “Jesus Christ”=151 was “The Testator”=151.

“Fruit”(74) equals “Jesus”(74)

John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat (emphasizing Jesus=74)
fall into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die, it brings forth much “fruit”=74.

John 16:7: Nevertheless I (Jesus=74) tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away:
for if I go not away, the Comforter (Holy Spirit=151) will not come unto you; but if I depart,
I will send the [God Spirit=117] unto you. (that's because: “YHVH GOD is One”=151)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 24, 2012 at 6:34 am#294546

(LINK to the thread THAT PROVES GOD’s EXISTENCE)

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Quote (Ed J @ April 24 2012,08:21)

Hi Charles, (144,000 is a symbolic number)

Melchizedek was a “King Priest” office
rather than just merely a person.
Jesus Christ fills this office.
(Shem was Melchizedek)

“Blessed be the LORD God of Shem” (Gen 9:26)
“Tents of Shem” equal 144

Genesis 9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in
the tents of Shem(144); and Canaan(Ham's son) shall be his servant.

The Holy City, New Jerusalem (Rev 21:16-17 )

The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof,
an hundred and forty and four(144) cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

Here's where it starts to get interesting

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed
an hundred and forty and four thousand(144,000) of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

“an hundred and forty and four thousand“ – equals 373 (which is the 74th Prime number)

Here's where it starts to get's even more interesting

The significance of the number 74

In English, the significant number 74 is attributed to “JOSHUA”=74 and “Messiah”=74; also
in the following: “JESUS”=74, “Cross”=74, “Gospel”=74, and even “English”=74.

“Jesus Christ” (74×32) also factors 74 in Greek Theomatically:
[Jesus] Ιησους=74(x12), [Christ] Χριστоς=74(x20).
[Son of Man] υιος τον ανθρωπου=74(x40).

And even GEMATRIA equals 74.
GEMATRIA: words converted to numbers.

Your friend!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Hi Charles, (144,000 is a symbolic number)

Edj,

Get this in your mind:

All what is written in the bible and in the gospel has FOUR symbolic meanings.

one LITERAL

one SPIRITUAL

one COSMICAL

one MATERIAL AND SPIRITUAL : WHICH IS THIS:

LIGHT WITHIN DARKNESS:

JESUS' SPIRIT WITHIN LUCIFER'S SPIRIT:

THE SPIRIT WHO CAME DOWN LIKE A LIGHTNING FROM HEAVEN IN

BLOOD AND WATER

BLOOD LUCIFER'S SPIRIT INTO MATTER WATER JESUS' SPIRIT INTO SOULS :

WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT FROM THE FATHER TO GLORIFY THE FATHER IN THE WORLD THROUGH HIS CRETION. OF BOTH GOOD AND EVIL

ONE WORLD CREATED BOTH GOOD AND EVIL THROUGH ONE SPIRIT: JESUS'

ONE TREE CONTAINS BOTH KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL

So IF I WERE YOU:

Whenever you read the bible and the gospel,don' t look at it from one EYE, of good only but with both EYES OF GOOD AND EVIL,and pray god to show you both because it is through darkness that the LIGHT SHINES.

TO CONCLUDE:

144,000 SIGNIFY THE SPIRIT OF LUCIFER TRANSFORMED INTO HUMAN BODIES THE NEW GERUSALEM THROUGH JESUS' SPIRIT IN:

SPIRITUAL BODY OF:

SPIRIT: SOUL: AND FLESH:

THESE SYMBOLICALLY WERE REPRESENTED IN THE THREE CRUCIFIED PERSONS ON GOLGOTA WHICH MEANS THAT ALL DIED WITH JESUS

AND ALL

RESURRECTED UNITED IN JESUS' BODY FOR ETERNITY FOR THE FATHER TO ABODE WITHIN ON THE LAST DAY

SO THE ONE WHO WAS GOD'S ENEMY ENDED THE ONE WHOM GOD WOULD EVENTUALLY ABIDE FOR ETERNITY ON THE LAST DAY

BUT TO THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS' SPIRIT

READ THE PRODIGAL SON AND REFLECT

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CHARLES

April 24, 2012 at 5:25 pm#294609

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Hi Charles,

Do you agree that the number 144,000 is symbolic then?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 24, 2012 at 6:17 pm#294618

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Quote (terraria @ April 20 2012,09:54)

charles and Nick

always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

and even then it is not always true the ways you guy's presenting your personal religion views.

so for all it is worth ,you are useless to anyone that looking for Gods truth, AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF QUOTES TO PROVE IT .

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always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

Terraria,

Quit talking nonsense,

since you are on meat,and I am on milk !!!

tell me then so I can learn

WHAT Math 13;44 MEAN!!!

charles

Math 13;44

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Terraria,

they would sell all what they have to exchange it for the kingdom of heaven,

That is equivalent to this:

thereof goeth and select all that he hath, and buyeth that field.”

What is the equivalent to this:

the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found,
he hideth,

In your interpretation the kingdom is the field.

what about the treasure???

Why would one FIND A TREASURE AND HIDES THE TREASURE IN A FIELD ,AND BY THE FIELD???

Now read again:

“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found,
he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and select all that he hath, and buyeth that field.” (Matt 13:44)

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CHARLES

Charles

Christ talks about the treasures of the kingdom who are the “believer” somewhere Christ says DO NOT GATER TREASURES FROM THE WORLD WERE THIEF AND ROBBER ARE BUT TRESORTS IN HEAVEN SO THAT WEN YOU DIE ALL YOUR TREASURE IS WITH YOU ,……

PAUL AS WELL CLAIMS THAT ALL THE BELIEVERS HE HAS HELPED IN TO BECOME BELIEVERS IN GOD AND CHRIST ARE HIS RICHENESS AND IT WILL BE NOT LOST TO HIM,

so all the precious gifts from God are in men “believers that are scattered all around the world

AND SO WHEN YOU AS TRUE BELIEVER FIND SOMEONE THAT TRULLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND GOD AND HIS SON ,YOU SHOULD LEAVE ALL WORLD THING IN THE SECOND PLACE AND THIS BELIVER WOULD BECOME YOUR PRIORITY,
THIS IS WHAT CHRIST MEANS

April 24, 2012 at 8:45 pm#294641

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Hi,
The treasure is the Spirit.2 cor 4.7

Once obtained we can afford to let go of our own possessions, our so called knowledge and intellectual control, and let the Spirit teach and lead.

April 24, 2012 at 9:44 pm#294651

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2012,14:45)

Hi,
The treasure is the Spirit.2 cor 4.7

Once obtained we can afford to let go of our own possessions, our so called knowledge and intellectual control, and let the Spirit teach and lead.

N
2Co 4:5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
2Co 4:6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
2Co 4:7 But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us.

this is exatly what I am saying ,

April 24, 2012 at 9:55 pm#294655

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Hi T,
So the clay vessels are men of earth.
2Tim 2.20f

Men still preach THE CLAY VESSEL OF JESUS instead of PREACHING JESUS CHRIST as LORD.

April 24, 2012 at 11:12 pm#294665

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2012,15:55)

Hi T,
So the clay vessels are men of earth.
2Tim 2.20f

Men still preach THE CLAY VESSEL OF JESUS instead of PREACHING JESUS CHRIST as LORD.

you still graped on that nail ??

April 25, 2012 at 12:17 am#294680

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Hi T,
Flesh begets flesh.
Preach the WORD.
Preach CHRIST JESUS.

April 25, 2012 at 2:44 am#294752

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2012,18:17)

Hi T,
Flesh begets flesh.
Preach the WORD.
Preach CHRIST JESUS.

I do ,but you do not you are mix ,because you do not believe in scriptures not the way they are written anyway

April 25, 2012 at 3:13 am#294764

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Pierre,

What is that going to accomplish for you to tell Nick
his understanding is different that yours and wrong?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 25, 2012 at 6:17 am#294828

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Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2012,04:25)

Hi Charles,

Do you agree that the number 144,000 is symbolic then?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Do you agree that the number 144,000 is symbolic then?

Edj,

it is both symbolic,and actual.

As I explained they are the ex body of Lucifer transformed ito humans by God in order to return to the Father.

BUT THEY WERE TAKEN BY JESUS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATION,AND JESUS SPIRIT WAS SACRIFICED IN ORDER FOR GOD TO ACHIEVE THIS.

THERE WAS NO OTHER WAY OUT TO PREVENT LUCIFER FROM ACHIEVING HIS AMBITION. SO JESUS WAS IN A CMOPLETE CONFLICT WITH LUCIFER BUT TO CONVINCE HIM THAT HE (LUCIFER)IS ONLY POWERFUL THROUGH JESUS SPIRIT WITHIN HIM.

THE FIG TREE IS A DEMONSTARTION OF THIS, TO MAKE US AWARE THAT JESUS SPIRIT IS IN POWER,AND AS SOON AS HIS SPIRIT CAME OUT FROM THE TREE, IT DIED ALTHOUGH SATAN'S SPIRIT WAS WITHIN IT.

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CAHRLES

April 25, 2012 at 8:22 am#294846

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Quote (carmel @ April 25 2012,17:17)

Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2012,04:25)

Hi Charles,

Do you agree that the number 144,000 is symbolic then?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Do you agree that the number 144,000 is symbolic then?

Edj,

it is both symbolic,and actual.

As I explained they are the ex body of Lucifer transformed ito humans by God in order to return to the Father.

BUT THEY WERE TAKEN BY JESUS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATION,AND JESUS SPIRIT WAS SACRIFICED IN ORDER FOR GOD TO ACHIEVE THIS.

THE FIG TREE IS A DEMONSTARTION OF THIS, TO MAKE US AWARE THAT JESUS SPIRIT IS IN POWER,AND AS SOON AS HIS SPIRIT CAME OUT FROM THE TREE, IT DIED ALTHOUGH SATAN'S SPIRIT WAS WITHIN IT.

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CAHRLES

Hi Charles,

What does any of that have to do with: you saying the number is actual?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 25, 2012 at 5:37 pm#294890

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Quote (Ed J @ April 25 2012,21:13)

Pierre,

What is that going to accomplish for you to tell Nick
his understanding is different that yours and wrong?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

for me nothing but for Nick that is for Nick to figure out

April 25, 2012 at 7:12 pm#294900

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Hi T,
yap yap.

April 25, 2012 at 7:31 pm#294903