Isaiah 14:19-20

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  • #292982
    terraricca
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    Quote (carmel @ April 18 2012,10:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 17 2012,08:02)
    charles

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    Teraricca,

    WITH EVERY RESPECT:

    All that has nothing to do with Matthew 13:44 .

    :D :D :D you are funny, show me in scriptures that ALL THAT(my scriptures) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MATH 13;44 ????

    IF YOU CAN NOT  that will make a ??????????????????????????l…


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    you are funny, show me in scriptures that ALL THAT(my scriptures) HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MATH 13;44 ????

    Teraricca

    read again!

    As a context all what you posted is only a fraction of what Matthew 13:44 is referring to.

    Matthew 13:44 is the whole process of the entire creation symbolized in THE MAN, ( GOD)THE TREASURE, (HIS SON)AND THE FIELD.(CREATION)

    WHAT ABOUT THIS WHICH I WROTE UNDER IT,ISN'T IT CLEAR ENOUGH??

    It is ONLY part and the conclusion of Matthew 13:44

    Which is this:

    and for joy there of GOETH AND SELLETH  ALL THAT HE HATH, and buyeth that field.( this is our creation,and redemption through the ransom of Jesus death)

     So I  DID EXPLAIN WHAT I MEANT, SO TO ME YOU ARE SO EAGER TO CONFRONT ME, IN WHATEVER I SAY,THAT YOU ASKED A QUESTION WHICH ALREADY HAVE AN ANSWER TO IT.

    Now contradict me on the rest, and not on one sentence which I explained immediately under it how,which with every respect,you EITHER didn't understand, OR SIMPLY WANTED TO CONFRONT ME!!!

    SO READ AGAIN AND CONTRADICT ME WORD BY WORD OR ELSE SAY I DON'T AGREE, AND I RESPECT YOUR INTELIGENCE

    Our world is the Kingdom of darkness and we are in it waring with darkness.

    NOW READ HERE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEANT.THE CONTEXT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT,

    And all what you posted is supposed to be our work within this world of darkness.

    So the Kingdom of God is still in progress in this world of darkness,through Jesus' work and death.

    The Kingdom of God is not our world.

    We must leave this world to enter  the Kingdom of God.

    We still have to be judged to enter the Kingdom of God.

    The Kingdom of God has no end.

    This world will end. And a new world will be established, and that would be the Kingdom of God.

    MT 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach and say, “ Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

    Notice He said the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, so it came from heaven .

    Therefore The Kingdom of God came from heaven to the world through Jesus Christ.  Matthew 13:44

    The Kingdom of God commenced in heaven,and is still in progress in our world only through us Christians???Matthew 13:44

    The Kingdom of God will end when all the enemies of God locked in this world will eventually return to the Father.Matthew 13:44

    SO THERE ARE A KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WHICH IS GOD'S:   SPIRITUAL

                     
    A KINGDOM OF THE WORLD  WHICH IS SATAN'S: CARNAL

    BUT SINCE JESUS DIED, HE IS IN COMMAND OF BOTH  HEAVEN'S AND WORLD'S KINGDOMS.

    BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH BECAUSE HE UNITED THEM IN HIS BODY. HE RECONCILED ALL ONTO HIMSELF FOR THE FATHER.

    BUT THE WORLD IS NOT YET HIS.

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES


    charles

    understand that scriptures do not say the the Kingdom does not exist or as to be yet come;

    Christ his the king and so all he said was regarding to that kingdom ,

    so think it over again

    #292985
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,05:38)
    Charles

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    As a context all what you posted is only a fraction of what Matthew 13:44 is referring to.

    Matthew 13:44 is the whole process of the entire creation symbolized in THE MAN, ( GOD)THE TREASURE, (HIS SON)AND THE FIELD.(CREATION)


    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view


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    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view

    You keep on repeating the same thing.

    Unless you pick a sentence and contradict me through scripture it's useless.

    I have quoted scripture. I proved through it,My understanding.

    You must do the same thing but otherwise or else admit you are not in the position to contradict me.

    Galatians 1:10 10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ

    Matthew 10:But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #292986
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,
    You say
    “I have quoted scripture. I proved through it,My understanding.”

    But your understanding is not able to prove anything from scripture.
    Scripture proves scripture.

    human understanding is largely vanity.

    #292990
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 18 2012,13:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,05:38)
    Charles

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    As a context all what you posted is only a fraction of what Matthew 13:44 is referring to.

    Matthew 13:44 is the whole process of the entire creation symbolized in THE MAN, ( GOD)THE TREASURE, (HIS SON)AND THE FIELD.(CREATION)


    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view


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    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view

    You keep on repeating the same thing.

    Unless you pick a sentence and contradict me through scripture it's useless.

    I have quoted scripture. I proved through it,My understanding.

    You must do the same thing but otherwise or else admit you are not in the position to contradict me.

    Galatians 1:10 10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ

    Matthew 10:But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    charles

    but i pick a phrase and a scripture were you fill in what is not teach in scriptures ,then you call me of not doing what really do

    ??? ??? :D :D

    #293231
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2012,06:12)
    Hi C,
    You say
    “I have quoted scripture. I proved through it,My understanding.”

    But your understanding is not able to prove anything from scripture.
    Scripture proves scripture.
     
    human understanding is largely vanity.


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    But your understanding is not able to prove anything from scripture.
    Scripture proves scripture.

    Nick,

    Again: Be specific.

    #293232
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,06:44)

    Quote (carmel @ April 18 2012,13:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,05:38)
    Charles

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    As a context all what you posted is only a fraction of what Matthew 13:44 is referring to.

    Matthew 13:44 is the whole process of the entire creation symbolized in THE MAN, ( GOD)THE TREASURE, (HIS SON)AND THE FIELD.(CREATION)


    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view


    Quote
    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view

    You keep on repeating the same thing.

    Unless you pick a sentence and contradict me through scripture it's useless.

    I have quoted scripture. I proved through it,My understanding.

    You must do the same thing but otherwise or else admit you are not in the position to contradict me.

    Galatians 1:10 10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ

    Matthew 10:But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    charles

    but i pick a phrase and a scripture were you fill in what is not teach in scriptures ,then you call me of not doing what really do

    ???  ???  :D  :D


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    but i pick a phrase and a scripture were you fill in what is not teach in scriptures ,then you call me of not doing what really do

    Teraricca<

    Again: BE SPECIFIC.

    #293233
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,
    Why?
    If you do not understand that scripture proves scripture what else can you learn?

    #293239
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 18 2012,13:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,05:38)
    Charles

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    As a context all what you posted is only a fraction of what Matthew 13:44 is referring to.

    Matthew 13:44 is the whole process of the entire creation symbolized in THE MAN, ( GOD)THE TREASURE, (HIS SON)AND THE FIELD.(CREATION)


    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view


    Quote
    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view

    You keep on repeating the same thing.

    Unless you pick a sentence and contradict me through scripture it's useless.

    I have quoted scripture. I proved through it,My understanding.

    You must do the same thing but otherwise or else admit you are not in the position to contradict me.

    Galatians 1:10 10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ

    Matthew 10:But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    charles

    you skipping Math 13;44

    look the interpretation you add to it ,to make it some thing else of what it means .

    #293502
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 19 2012,08:53)

    Quote (carmel @ April 18 2012,13:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 18 2012,05:38)
    Charles

    Quote
    As a context all what you posted is only a fraction of what Matthew 13:44 is referring to.

    Matthew 13:44 is the whole process of the entire creation symbolized in THE MAN, ( GOD)THE TREASURE, (HIS SON)AND THE FIELD.(CREATION)


    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view


    Quote
    you are assuming that what you add to scriptures is true ,but it is not ,you are twisting scriptures and so try to make them bend to your understanding ,very wrong to do

    so you have no truth in scriptures to present except your deceitful view

    You keep on repeating the same thing.

    Unless you pick a sentence and contradict me through scripture it's useless.

    I have quoted scripture. I proved through it,My understanding.

    You must do the same thing but otherwise or else admit you are not in the position to contradict me.

    Galatians 1:10 10For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

    11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ

    Matthew 10:But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    charles

    you skipping Math 13;44

    look the interpretation you add to it ,to make it some thing else of what it means .


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    look the interpretation you add to it ,to make it some thing else of what it means .

    Teraricca,

    That's my point!

    You tell me then WHAT IT MEANS!!!

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    #293506
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Carmel,
    Search the scriptures.
    Look for witnesses not the opinions of others

    #293535
    terraricca
    Participant

    charles and Nick

    you two guys are the same ,no difference ,like twin brothers ,lost short meaning NO TRUTH , long speech,very little ,meaning and truth ,in understanding you both have ,zero,none ,always begging to receive more ,but have none to share,

    always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

    and even then it is not always true the ways you guy's presenting your personal religion views.

    so for all it is worth ,you are useless to anyone that looking for Gods truth, AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF QUOTES TO PROVE IT .

    #293691
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 20 2012,09:54)
    charles and Nick

    you two guys are the same ,no difference ,like twin brothers ,lost short meaning NO TRUTH , long speech,very little ,meaning and truth ,in understanding you both have ,zero,none ,always begging to receive more ,but have none to share,

    always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

    and even then it is not always true the ways you guy's presenting your personal religion views.

    so for all it is worth ,you are useless to anyone that looking for Gods truth, AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF QUOTES TO PROVE IT .


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     always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

       

    Teraricca,

    Quit talking nonsense,

    since you are on meat,and I am on milk !!!

    tell me then so I can learn

    WHAT Math 13;44 MEAN!!!

    #293699
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 21 2012,01:13)
    WHAT Math 13;44 MEAN!!!


    Hi Charles, perhaps you wanted Pierre to answer, but here is the answer nonetheless…

    “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found,
    he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.” (Matt 13:44)

    “But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss
    for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss
    of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ” (Phil 3:7-8)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #293705
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 21 2012,08:13)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 20 2012,09:54)
    charles and Nick

    you two guys are the same ,no difference ,like twin brothers ,lost short meaning NO TRUTH , long speech,very little ,meaning and truth ,in understanding you both have ,zero,none ,always begging to receive more ,but have none to share,

    always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

    and even then it is not always true the ways you guy's presenting your personal religion views.

    so for all it is worth ,you are useless to anyone that looking for Gods truth, AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF QUOTES TO PROVE IT .


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     always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

       

    Teraricca,

    Quit talking nonsense,

    since you are on meat,and I am on milk !!!

    tell me then so I can learn

    WHAT Math 13;44 MEAN!!!


    charles

    Math 13;44

    Mt 13:44 “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.
    Mt 13:45 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls.
    Mt 13:46 When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.

    what Christ pointing out is for those, who ,the kingdom is the most important thing in their lives so that they would sell all what they have to exchange it for the kingdom of heaven,those are the true sons of the kingdom (144K)

    #293707
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ April 20 2012,09:54)
    charles and Nick

    you two guys are the same ,no difference ,like twin brothers ,lost short meaning NO TRUTH , long speech,very little ,meaning and truth ,in understanding you both have ,zero,none ,always begging to receive more ,but have none to share,

    always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

    and even then it is not always true the ways you guy's presenting your personal religion views.

    so for all it is worth ,you are useless to anyone that looking for Gods truth, AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF QUOTES TO PROVE IT .


    Hi T,
    It is useless for you because your negativity has stopped you from learning.

    #293714
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2012,13:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ April 20 2012,09:54)
    charles and Nick

    you two guys are the same ,no difference ,like twin brothers ,lost short meaning NO TRUTH , long speech,very little ,meaning and truth ,in understanding you both have ,zero,none ,always begging to receive more ,but have none to share,

    always learning but never progress to maturity ,always defending the bases of faith and so stay on milk,

    and even then it is not always true the ways you guy's presenting your personal religion views.

    so for all it is worth ,you are useless to anyone that looking for Gods truth, AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF QUOTES TO PROVE IT .


    Hi T,
    It is useless for you because your negativity has stopped you from learning.


    N

    like not believing in scriptures you don't ,and so drag me astray ??? form truth in scriptures ??? and accept Nick version over Gods word ???? :D :D :D

    NO THANKS

    #293717
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Fire away.
    But you may come to regret some of what you say later.

    #293748
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2012,14:50)
    Hi T,
    Fire away.
    But you may come to regret some of what you say later.


    N

    think it over your comment can go the other way ,so that it is I who is right and serve God the way he want us to do it ,

    #294434
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 21 2012,02:21)

    Quote (carmel @ April 21 2012,01:13)
    WHAT Math 13;44 MEAN!!!


    Hi Charles, perhaps you wanted Pierre to answer, but here is the answer nonetheless…

    “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found,
    he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.” (Matt 13:44)

    “But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss
    for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss
    of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ” (Phil 3:7-8)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


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    for whom I have suffered the loss
    of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ”

    OK Edj,

    What did Paul refer to by:

    for whom I have suffered the loss
    of all things, and do count them but dung,

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #294435
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 24 2012,07:56)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 21 2012,02:21)

    Quote (carmel @ April 21 2012,01:13)
    WHAT Math 13;44 MEAN!!!


    Hi Charles, perhaps you wanted Pierre to answer, but here is the answer nonetheless…

    “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found,
    he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.” (Matt 13:44)

    “But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss
    for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss
    of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ” (Phil 3:7-8)

    God bless
    Ed J


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    for whom I have suffered the loss
    of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ”

    OK Edj,

    What  did Paul refer to by:

    for whom I have suffered the loss
    of all things, and do count them but dung,

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    He suffered the loss of all things 'physical'
    to gain that which is “Spiritual”, Christ our Lord.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

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