Isaiah 14:19-20

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
Knowledge can just lead to boasting.

It puffeth up and distracts from the need to serve the truth

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,14:32)

Hi Ed, Knowledge can just lead to boasting. It puffeth up and distracts from the need to serve the truth

Hi Nick,

As a servant of “The LORD”, my Job is
to provide the knowledge I possess
at the rate that YOU can absorb.        (Matt.10:44)

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
But you do not JUST offer scripture but similarities bolstered by opinion.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,18:20)

Hi ED, But you do not JUST offer scripture but similarities bolstered by opinion.

Hi Nick,

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:
for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak:
…for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.” (John 16:13…14)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
So you cannot be wrong in your opinion?

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,19:51)

Hi ED, So you cannot be wrong in your opinion?

Hi Nick,

Do you have a better explanation?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
I am sure you have not finished learning yet.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 01 2012,20:30)

Hi ED, I am sure you have not finished learning yet.

Hi Nick,

No one has my friend!

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
The path you have taken has led to some dead ends such as men pre existing and angels becoming men so why would anyone accept your teachings as valid?

[Ed J]

What dead ends?

[carmel]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2012,09:37)

Hi Ed, you said “I believe Isa.14:19-20 proves conclusively that 'Lucifer' is indeed the 'son of perdition', and seek to prove it to you and everyone here as well! (1Thess.5:21)” No true evidence for this so far from what you have presented as the witnesses seem only weakly inferential. The son of perdition in Jn 17.12 seems likely to be Judas Iscariot

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“I believe Isa.14:19-20 proves conclusively that 'Lucifer' is indeed the 'son of perdition', and seek to prove it to you and everyone here as well! (1Thess.5:21)”

Nick,

To humbly clarify:

Lucifer was an angel, and when he was so there wasn't any evil yet.So he cannot be A SON OF ANY PERDITION.

Lucifer HIMSELF INTRODUCED and became evil, rebelled, and  he was sent to the world as one entity, A SPIRIT BEING ONLY. HE LOST HIS BODY SUBSTANCE, AND BECAME SATAN.HE IS STILL SEARCHING A WAY TO BECOME A FLESH BEING, SINCE HE LOST THE FIRST EVER OPPORTUNITY AGAINST JESUS.This is a proof that the world existed prior to the rebel, therefore the world had creatures but non mortal, since death entered through the sin of Adam MILLIONS OF YEARS after the rebel, and also due to the rebel itself.

Lucifer therefore cannot be THE SON OF PERDITION. since he didn’t exist
any more after the rebel.

Judas is the son of perdition, for the simple reason that Satan used his body, so in a way he was Satan’s son. PERDITION IS A REFERENCE TO SATAN.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Above is a reference to Satan's man of sin as the antichrist who would come desguised as God. SO THE SON OF PERDITION IS THE ANTICHRIST,but also all those who work for Satan.

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[NickHassan]

Hi Charles,
What are your sources?
Not scripture

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
False teachings.

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

Are you accusing me of teaching false teachings?

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
Of course.
You frequently espouse and promote falsehoods.

Angels become men, all men pre exist, water baptism is unnecessary etc.

Salt water should not be mixed with the pure[Jas]

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

Did Jesus ever say we must be water baptized?  

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

Does the bible say we didn't preexist?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

If the answer to these is “No”,
then why do you accuse?

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
There are lots of things the bible does not say.
To propound such things as truth is unwise.

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
If the apostles baptised in water in the name of Jesus Christ why would you say it was not necessary?

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