Is this proof that Jesus IS the Word?

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:55)

Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?   Please, this really does deserve an honest answer. You really need to give an alternate explanation, rather then just say as Pierre does…   'it doesn't mean that'     Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

Do you know that scriptures also says that their is no one that serve God not even one ,and yet Abraham was called a righteous man,so was Daniel,Joseph,Abel,,,'and many others

Pierre

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:55)

Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?   Please, this really does deserve an honest answer. You really need to give an alternate explanation, rather then just say as Pierre does…   'it doesn't mean that'     Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

The answer to-your question , read the scripture you quoting in Rev 19 :12

Pay attention ,it says NO MAN KNEW , why ? Because it is understood by the spirit and so it can not be understood by carnal thinking,then it says HIS IS THE WORD OF GOD,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:44)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:55) Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?   Please, this really does deserve an honest answer. You really need to give an alternate explanation, rather then just say as Pierre does…   'it doesn't mean that'     Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Do you know that scriptures also says that their is no one that serve God not even one ,and yet Abraham was called a righteous man,so was Daniel,Joseph,Abel,,,'and many others Pierre

Hi Pierre,

Are you implying that the bible (according to Pierre)
sometimes doesn't mean what it says?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:52)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:44) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:55) Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?   Please, this really does deserve an honest answer. You really need to give an alternate explanation, rather then just say as Pierre does…   'it doesn't mean that'     Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Do you know that scriptures also says that their is no one that serve God not even one ,and yet Abraham was called a righteous man,so was Daniel,Joseph,Abel,,,'and many others Pierre Hi Pierre, Are you implying that the bible (according to Pierre) sometimes doesn't mean what it says? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

No, this is not what I say ,this is to be understood by the whole scriptures,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:57)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:52) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:44) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:55) Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?  Please, this really does deserve an honest answer. You really need to give an alternate explanation, rather then just say as Pierre does…   'it doesn't mean that'     Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Do you know that scriptures also says that their is no one that serve God not even one ,and yet Abraham was called a righteous man,so was Daniel,Joseph,Abel,,,'and many others Pierre Hi Pierre, Are you implying that the bible (according to Pierre) sometimes doesn't mean what it says? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ No, this is not what I say ,this is to be understood by the whole scriptures, Pierre

Hi Pierre,

OK, so back to the topic. Can you answer my question?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,02:12)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:57) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:52) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:44) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:55) Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?  Please, this really does deserve an honest answer. You really need to give an alternate explanation, rather then just say as Pierre does…   'it doesn't mean that'     Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Do you know that scriptures also says that their is no one that serve God not even one ,and yet Abraham was called a righteous man,so was Daniel,Joseph,Abel,,,'and many others Pierre Hi Pierre, Are you implying that the bible (according to Pierre) sometimes doesn't mean what it says? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ No, this is not what I say ,this is to be understood by the whole scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, OK, so back to the topic. Can you answer my question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

I have answer you that the name of Christ is THE WORD OF GOD ,

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How is it that this does not disqualify him?

THIS QUESTION I DO NOT UNDERSTAND what is ;THIS; ??

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:50)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,02:12) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:57) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:52) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:44) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:55) Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?  Please, this really does deserve an honest answer. You really need to give an alternate explanation, rather then just say as Pierre does…   'it doesn't mean that'     Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Do you know that scriptures also says that their is no one that serve God not even one ,and yet Abraham was called a righteous man,so was Daniel,Joseph,Abel,,,'and many others Pierre Hi Pierre, Are you implying that the bible (according to Pierre) sometimes doesn't mean what it says? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ No, this is not what I say ,this is to be understood by the whole scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, OK, so back to the topic. Can you answer my question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj I have answer you that the name of Christ is THE WORD OF GOD , Quote How is it that this does not disqualify him? THIS QUESTION I DO NOT UNDERSTAND  what is ;THIS; ?? Pierre

PIERRE,

You know the name Christ and you know the name Jesus,
do you not understant what the word “disqualify” means?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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edj

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How is it that this does not disqualify him?

i do understand the words but not the question as a whole ,may be rephrase it

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,05:08)

edj Quote How is it that this does not disqualify him?   i do understand the words but not the question as a whole ,may be rephrase it Pierre

PIERRE,

You know the name Jesus Christ, so this should be very clear now…

HE had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself” (Rev.19:12)

How is it that this does not disqualify him according to your understanding?  

Will you please answer my question now that you fully understant it; Pierre?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,13:13)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,05:08) edj Quote How is it that this does not disqualify him?   i do understand the words but not the question as a whole ,may be rephrase it Pierre PIERRE, You know the name Jesus Christ, so this should be very clear now… HE had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself” (Rev.19:12) How is it that this does not disqualify him according to your understanding?   Will you please answer my question now that you fully understant it; Pierre? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

I have answered you on that ,but it seems you over looked it go back in time and see ,

It was yesterday ,

Pierre

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EDJ

And one more thing ,Christ name on earth was Jesus,and in heaven he is called THE WORD OF GOD,

So my answer I have given you will cover this view

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,19:50)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,02:12) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:57) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,01:52) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 06 2011,18:44) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,00:55) Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?  Please, this really does deserve an honest answer. You really need to give an alternate explanation, rather then just say as Pierre does…   'it doesn't mean that'     Your brother in Christ, Jesus. Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ Do you know that scriptures also says that their is no one that serve God not even one ,and yet Abraham was called a righteous man,so was Daniel,Joseph,Abel,,,'and many others Pierre Hi Pierre, Are you implying that the bible (according to Pierre) sometimes doesn't mean what it says? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ No, this is not what I say ,this is to be understood by the whole scriptures, Pierre Hi Pierre, OK, so back to the topic. Can you answer my question? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org edj I have answer you that the name of Christ is THE WORD OF GOD , Quote How is it that this does not disqualify him? THIS QUESTION I DO NOT UNDERSTAND  what is ;THIS; ?? Pierre

Hi Pierre,

This does not sound like an answer to me?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:17)

EDJ And one more thing ,Christ name on earth was Jesus,and in heaven he is called THE WORD OF GOD, So my answer I have given you will cover this view Pierre

Hi Pierre,

So you're saying that the name that “The Word” of God had
that no-one knew was “The Word” of God? Is this your premise?

Mike, what say you?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 06 2011,00:55)

Hi Mike, “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Do you know the name Jesus? How is it that this does not disqualify him?   Please, this really does deserve an honest answer.

What is it you want to know, Ed?  Jesus has many names:  Faithful and True, Son of Man, Son of God, Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus the Christ, The Word of God, Lord of lords and King of kings……………..shall I go on?

So what if he also has a new name that God has given him?  A name that only he and God know for the time being?

I guess I don't get your point. Are you saying that because we don't know ONE of Jesus' names, Rev 19:13 can't be referring to Jesus?

[Ed J]

Hi Mike,

What I HAVE said is that you do know Jesus name, and the verse says…
“and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12)

Now, since it is a FACT that you do know the name Jesus,
has this not DISQUALIFIED him form being “The Word”?  
…if not, why not? Please give us an explanation?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,14:34)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2011,07:17) EDJ And one more thing ,Christ name on earth was Jesus,and in heaven he is called THE WORD OF GOD, So my answer I have given you will cover this view Pierre Hi Pierre, So you're saying that the name that “The Word” of God had that no-one knew was “The Word” of God? Is this your premise? Mike, what say you? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

EDJ

The answer to-your question , read the scripture you quoting in Rev 19 :12

Pay attention ,it says NO MAN KNEW , why ? Because it is understood by the spirit and so it can not be understood by carnal thinking,then it says HIS NAME IS “THE WORD OF GOD”,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,11:13)

Hi Mike, What I HAVE said is that you do know Jesus name, and the verse says… “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Now, since it is a FACT that you do know the name Jesus, has this not DISQUALIFIED him form being “The Word”?   …if not, why not? Please give us an explanation? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Pierre, let me see if I get what you're saying that means.

What your saying it means then is: if you have spiritual thinking,
like you do, then you understand that his name is the word of God.
But if not, like any and all who disagree with your premise, you won't.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,21:38)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 07 2011,11:13) Hi Mike, What I HAVE said is that you do know Jesus name, and the verse says… “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Now, since it is a FACT that you do know the name Jesus, has this not DISQUALIFIED him form being “The Word”?   …if not, why not? Please give us an explanation? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Pierre, let me see if I get what you're saying that means. What your saying it means then is: if you have spiritual thinking, like you do, then you understand that his name is the word of God. But if not, like any and all who disagree with your premise, you won't. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

NO,that is not what I meant,you have to think harder and not in a carnal way ,but a Godly way ,if you can,

like I say I am not the owner of the word of God (scriptures)

Pierre

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Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 06 2011,18:13)

Hi Mike, What I HAVE said is that you do know Jesus name, and the verse says… “and he had a name written, that no man knew,” (Rev 19:12) Now, since it is a FACT that you do know the name Jesus, has this not DISQUALIFIED him form being “The Word”?   …if not, why not? Please give us an explanation? God bless Ed J

Think it out, Ed.  You think the Word in Rev 19:13 is the Holy Spirit.  And you think God's Holy Spirit is actually God Himself.

So if the one with the name nobody knows was “God”, then I could offer you the same argument you're offering me.  I could say, “Well, we already KNOW God's name, YHWH, so “God” is DISQUALIFIED from that scripture.”

Hebrews 1:4
So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.

Revelation 3:12
Him who overcomes…………. I will also write on him my new name.

Ed, Jesus has inherited a NEW name – one that no one knows except for him.

So, does the fact that that he has his unknown new name written on him exclude the rider from being Jesus?

If so, please explain why.

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Revelation 14
11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war.

Who will rule in justice?  (Psalm  45:6, Hebrews 1:8)
Who has been appointed as judge?  (John 5:22, 27)
Who will go to war?  (1 Corinthians 15:24-25, Revelation 17:14)

12 His eyes are like blazing fire……….

Whose eyes are like blazing fire?  (Revelation 1:14, 2:18)

15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”

Who has a sword coming out of his mouth?  (Revelation 1:16, 2:16)
Who will rule with an iron scepter?  (Psalm 2:9)

16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
  KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Who is the King of kings and Lord of lords?  (Revelation 17:14)

Ed, all of these things describe “the Word of God” in Revelation 19.  If you cannot see that these things describe Jesus, then I fear that you are trying very hard to not see it.

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