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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,06:29) What happened at “Pentecost”… Acts 4:31 …THEY were all filled with the HolySpirit, and they spake The Word of God with boldness.
Acts 10:44 …yet spake these words, the HolySpirit fell on all THEM which heard The Word.
Rom. 10:17 So then FAITH cometh BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY “THE WORD” of GOD.
Hey EdWhat happened, did you change your mind? I thought you said that Pentecost was the return of Jesus Christ?
Georg
Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 07 2010,16:49) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,06:29) What happened at “Pentecost”… Acts 4:31 …THEY were all filled with the HolySpirit, and they spake The Word of God with boldness.
Acts 10:44 …yet spake these words, the HolySpirit fell on all THEM which heard The Word.
Rom. 10:17 So then FAITH cometh BY HEARING, AND HEARING BY “THE WORD” of GOD.
Hey EdWhat happened, did you change your mind? I thought you said that Pentecost was the return of Jesus Christ?
Georg
Hi Georg,What inconsistency do you see; Georg?
Luke 9:27: But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here,
which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Matt. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here,
which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.“Pentecost” brings “the Kingdom's God”
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will
love him, and “WE“(Jesus' Father + Jesus) will come unto him(the believer), AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
[Isaiah 64:4-5 + Heb.9:28=John 14:23]Isaiah 64:4-5 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither hath the eye seen, O God(HolySpirit), beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
Thou(HolySpirit + Jesus: A Personal “Pentecost”) meetest him(the Believer) that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those
that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.Heb. 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (“The Passover“);
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (“Pentecost“) without sin unto salvation.
The Savior=117 is “GOD The Father”=117 [117=יהוה האלהים] (JEHOVAH GOD) (Isaiah 43:11)Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD The Father”=117;
Geometry and Gematria can CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE this FACT (Jesus at The Father's right hand)!
“The Large Box”=117 represents “GOD The Father”=117, “The Box”=74 inside represents “Jesus”=74!
Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
Like Isaac and Jacob some with Jesus at that time are alive in the eyes of God.[lk20]
Those alive in God's Spirit never suffer the second death.[rev21]
They have passed over from death to life.]Jn5]Irene……….look up the word (HE) and you will find it can equally mean (IT) a Word is not a HE it is the expression of the Person and relates to the Person Himself GOD can not be separated from his words no more than you from your words. If we have his word in Us then His spirit is (IN) Us . How do you think the FATHER was IN Jesus, By His Words Just as what is in you is your words , Word ARE Spirit (intellects) in you rather of GOD or the WORLD. God and His Word are one in the same and who ever has the words of GOd (IN) the has GOD (IN) them and they are ONE with GOD even as Jesus and the FATHER ARE ONE. IMO
peace and love to you and Georg…………………….gene
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,11:18) Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock,
over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God,
which he(HolySpirit) hath purchased with his(HolySpirit's) own
Hi Ed,Quote Revelation 5:9 NIV
And they sang a new song: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.Quote Acts 20:28 NIV
Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. [ Traditionally bishops] Be shepherds of the church of God, [ Many manuscripts of the Lord] which he bought with his own blood.I think you are misreading the spirit of the text. God didn't buy men with His own blood. It is God's church. God made Jesus the head of it. God purchased men with the blood of Christ.
You said:
Quote The Bible teaches: There No forgiveness for rejecting HolySpirit as GOD. Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:
but unto him that blasphemeth(speaketh) against the HolySpirit, it shall not be forgiven him;
neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Mathew 12:32)You didn't answer the question: If Jesus (the Son of man) IS the Holy Spirit of God, why will speaking a word against him be forgiven when the next part clearly says blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not.
Quote Luke 10:21 NIV
At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth,Ed, if Jesus IS the Holy Spirit, how can he be “full of joy through the Holy Spirit?
peace and love,
mikeHi ED,
Feeding on the words of God by those reborn from above will lead to the Spirit of Christ manifesting in them.[1Peter1, rev21]
But the Spirit is more than the word being wisdom and knowledge and grace and power.Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,02:16) Heb. 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (“The Passover”);
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (“Pentecost”) without sin unto salvation.
The Savior=117 is “GOD The Father”=117 [117=יהוה האלהים] (JEHOVAH GOD) (Isaiah 43:11)
EdThe scripture you quote and inject “Penticost” in, cannot be true because Penticost happened around 30-35 AD.
The book of Hebrews was written around AD 63 or 64, some 30 years later.
So your misquote, “unto them that look for him SHALL HE APPEAR THE SECOND TIME (“Pentecost”) without sin unto salvation.” cannot be refering to his comming!
The author of the book of Hebrew was not talking about “Penticost”!
WJ
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was with God; He was in the beginning with God. In verse 14 that Word became flesh. The only one that came from Heaven is Christ.
John 6:38 For I have come down from Heaven not to do my will, but the will of Him who send Me. This scripture could not be any clearer. He is the only one that has come from Heaven, except Lucifer and the fallen Angels.
Rev. 19:13 He is clothed with a rob dipped in Blood and His name is the Word of God. Is that any cleared also?
The Holy Spirit is God the Fathers Spirit and not a Person or Jesus. The Holy Spirit of the Father is essence of God the Father, like patience, love, hope etc,
Jesus is the Spoken Word of God…
John 8:58 And Jesus said to them:”Most assuredly I say to you, before Abraham I was.”
John 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Peace and Love IreneQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2010,02:52) Hi Ed, You said:
Quote The Bible teaches: There No forgiveness for rejecting HolySpirit as GOD. Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:
but unto him that blasphemeth(speaketh) against the HolySpirit, it shall not be forgiven him;
neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Mathew 12:32)1) You didn't answer the question: If Jesus (the Son of man) IS the Holy Spirit of God,
2) why will speaking a word against him be forgiven when the next part clearly says blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not.
Quote Luke 10:21 NIV
At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit, said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth,3) Ed, if Jesus IS the Holy Spirit, how can he be “full of joy through the Holy Spirit?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,1) I said the HolySpirit is Jesus' Father.
Why are you saying Jesus is the HolySpirit?
Are you your father?2) Since the “HolySpirit” is the “ONE GOD”,
that's why rejecting him is unforgivable.3) Your now embellishing on something I didn't even say?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
The Holy Spirit is OF GOD.
The finger of God.[Lk11/Mt12]If I hit your finger I would be hitting you.
Your finger cannot see or hear or think though it can feel and touch which are vital things too.
You could lose that finger and life would continue with some limitations but the loss of other more important organs would kill you.
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 08 2010,09:28) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,02:16) Heb. 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (“The Passover”);
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (“Pentecost”) without sin unto salvation.
The Savior=117 is “GOD The Father”=117 [117=יהוה האלהים] (JEHOVAH GOD) (Isaiah 43:11)
Ed1) The scripture you quote and inject “Penticost” in, cannot be true because Penticost happened around 30-35 AD.
2) The book of Hebrews was written around AD 63 or 64, some 30 years later.
WJ
Hi WJ,1) The Scripture I quoted is very true, that's exactly what happened to believers at “Pentecost”! (John 14:23)
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.And that's what happened to the “First” 120 believers on Pentecost day. (Acts 1:15 / Acts 2:4)
The “Kingdom of God“=120 arrived to indwell inside of man as it says in Luke 17:21…
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.2) Hebrews (9:28) was written some (30) years “Later” to other believers so that they too
may have their own personal “Pentecost”; this is also true for believers today as well!Jesus now (in Spirit Form) sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD The Father”=117;
Geometry and Gematria can CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE this FACT (Jesus at The Father's right hand)!
“The Large Box”=117 represents “GOD The Father”=117, “The Box”=74 inside represents “Jesus”=74! Psalm 110:1-2 The LORD (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),
Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength (“HolySpirit“)
out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2010,05:46) Hi ED,
Feeding on the words of God by those reborn from above will lead to the Spirit of Christ manifesting in them.[1Peter1, rev21]
But the Spirit is more than the word being wisdom and knowledge and grace and power.
Hi Nick,How true!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd said:
Quote Hi Mike, 1) I said the HolySpirit is Jesus' Father.
Why are you saying Jesus is the HolySpirit?
Are you your father?2) Since the “HolySpirit” is the “ONE GOD”,
that's why rejecting him is unforgivable.3) Your now embellishing on something I didn't even say?
God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
I'm sorry. When I first posted my two cents on this topic (page 4), I voiced that if the Word was the Holy Spirit, then Jesus was the Holy Spirit.
In my second post (also page 4), I asked you point blank in bold letters:
Quote Do you think Jesus was the Holy Spirit in the flesh? You never answered me in plain English until now. I told you before that your multi-colored numbers jumble up what could otherwise be a coherent answer from you.
So now I understand you to mean the Word=the Holy Spirit=Jesus' Father. And Jesus' Father became flesh in the form of Jesus and prayed to Himself while on earth. Is that about right?
peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2010,13:46) Hi Ed, 1) So now I understand you to mean the Word=the Holy Spirit=Jesus' Father and Jesus' Father became flesh ..inside of Jesus..
2) and prayed to Himself while on earth. Is that about right?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,1) Yes, after I adjusted it; check the wording difference.
He becomes flesh in us as well! (Romans 12:1-2 / Eph.4:23-24 / Col.3:10)2) Jesus Prayed to his father, who was inside of him.
We pray to God in the same way, certain he hears us!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
Jesus prayed to his Father in heaven with the help of the Spirit of God within him.Jesus is not of our condemned flesh.
Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 04 2010,07:09) WJ Ed suggesting that the Holy spirit is still growing?
Georg
Hi Georg,Has the “HolySpirit” stopped growing in you?
Ed J
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,14:42) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 08 2010,13:46) Hi Ed, 1) So now I understand you to mean the Word=the Holy Spirit=Jesus' Father and Jesus' Father became flesh ..inside of Jesus..
2) and prayed to Himself while on earth. Is that about right?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,1) Yes, after I adjusted it; check the wording difference.
He becomes flesh in us as well! (Romans 12:1-2 / Eph.4:23-24 / Col.3:10)2) Jesus Prayed to his father, who was inside of him.
We pray to God in the same way, certain he hears us!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjJas 4:3 When you do ask for something, you don’t receive it. Why? Because you ask for the wrong reason. You want to spend your money on your sinful pleasures.
Jas 4:4 You are not faithful to God. Don’t you know that to be a friend of the world is to hate God? Anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
Jas 4:5 Don’t you know what Scripture says? The spirit that God caused to live in us wants us to belong only to God. Don’t you think Scripture has a reason for saying that?
Jas 4:6 God continues to give us more grace. That’s why Scripture says,
“God opposes those who are proud.
But he gives grace to those who are not.” (Proverbs 3:34)
Jas 4:7 So obey God. Stand up to the devil. He will run away from you.
Jas 4:8 Come near to God, and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners. Make your hearts pure, you who can’t make up your minds.
Jas 4:9 Be full of sorrow. Cry and sob. Change your laughter to crying. Change your joy to sadness.Jas 1:6 But when you ask, you must believe. You must not doubt. People who doubt are like waves of the sea. The wind blows and tosses them around.
Jas 1:7 A man like that shouldn’t expect to receive anything from the Lord.
Jas 1:8 He can’t make up his mind. He can never decide what to do.man ,this is a new doctrine a new gospel ,we can trow the bible away ,because of those explanation the scriptures become void.
is it not edj ??
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