Is The Earth really going to be destroyed? Understand what the 'rudiments' are!

[Ed J]

Is The Earth really going to be destroyed? Understand what the ‘rudiments’ are!

Miia said:
“Ed, you are like the mockers in Noah’s day, saying “God will not destroy the earth!”, and “where is the promise of his coming”. “but they ignore this fact …. that the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.” “Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn!” ” – taken from …[b](HERE)[/b]

Hi Miia,

What you are now doing is twisting what I said in an
attempt to make what I’m telling you appear to be wrong

“where is the promise of his coming” – as I have told you repeatedly BEFORE
that this occurred on “PENTECOST”

SO ALL THINGS “DO NOT”
”continue as they were from the beginning of the creation” (2 Peter 3:4)

You are bearing false witness against me, because
you can clearly see that verse DOES NOT apply to me.
Now please continue with the focus of God’s thought here: (ref. Isaiah 55:7-9)

“the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire
against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.” (2 Peter 3:7)
”and THE WORKS that are therein shall be burned up” (2 Peter 3:10)

It is NOT the world that burns up, but the works (rudiments) of the wicked are burned up in the fire of God.
“If any MAN’S WORK shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” (1 Cor 3:15)

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Hi Miia,

You are confusing ‘the carnal mind’ (which enmity against God) (Romans 8:7)
with God’s “Physical Creation” (which he hath established for ever) (Psalms 78:69)
It is the rudiments, the works of the carnal mind that’s going to burn with fervent heat.

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God bless
Ed J

[Miia]

Yes Ed, the world is going to be destroyed with fire whether you, or anyone like it or not. It is GOD’S CREATION, and he can choose whatever he wants to do.

Check the verses and read them with wisdom.

scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming?

they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God

the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished.

But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day (watch that that day does not creep up on you like a thief in the night) of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.

waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn.

Spiritualise the words of Peter all away, Ed, because it is distasteful to you, and because YOU say Jesus and the fiery day of the Lord has already come, (IT HAS NOT).

[Miia]

“where is the promise of his coming” – as I have told you repeatedly BEFORE
that this occurred on “PENTECOST”

So do you believe Jesus is the Holy Spirit?

It is the rudiments, the works of the carnal mind that’s going to burn with fervent heat.

What do you mean?

[Miia]

Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. (Revelation 20.11)

Of old You founded the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands. “Even they will perish, but You endure; And all of them will wear out like a garment; Like clothing You will change them and they will be changed. (Pslam 102.25)

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! (2nd Peter 3.10)

Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. (1 Thess 4.17)

Jesus said “Heaven and earth will pass away” (Matthew 24:35 and Mark 13:31).

In My Father’s house are many dwelling places, if it were not so, I would have told you, for I go to prepare a place for you. If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. (John 14.2)

[Ed J]

Hi Miia,

“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers,
walking after their own lusts, 4: And saying, Where is the promise of his coming?
for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. (2 Peter 3:3-4)

I DON’T SAY: “Where is the promise of his coming?” (2 Peter 3:4)
For the promise of his coming occurred at Pentecost

AND I DO NOT SAY:
“all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation” (2 Peter 3:3-4)
Because Pentecost has changed everything

Will you now admit that 2Peter 3:4 CANNOT POSSIBLY APPLY TO ME?
If you cannot at least admit this, you’re in your own delusion.

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

It is the rudiments, the works of the carnal mind that’s going to burn with fervent heat.

What do you mean?

Hi Miia,

That’s what this thread is about, explaining to you what is going to burn with fervent heat.

[Miia]

Are you calling Jesus and Peter ‘in their own delusion’? It seems you are. Because Ed J is right. Ok, in the end we will see.

[Ed J]

“where is the promise of his coming” – as I have told you repeatedly BEFORE
that this occurred on “PENTECOST”

So do you believe Jesus is the Holy Spirit?

Hi Miia,

No

“we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
if so be that (1)the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not (2)the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)

1. HolySpirit (Father)
2. Spirit of Christ (Son)

“we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

[Ed J]

Are you calling Jesus and Peter ‘in their own delusion’?

Hi Miia, Please just answer my question, OK?

I DON’T SAY: “Where is the promise of his coming?” (2 Peter 3:4)
For the promise of his coming occurred at Pentecost

AND I DO NOT SAY:
“all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation” (2 Peter 3:3-4)
Because Pentecost has changed everything

Will you now admit that 2Peter 3:4 CANNOT POSSIBLY APPLY TO ME?

Please just answer my question, OK?

[Miia]

Ed, the Spirit of God IS the Spirit of Christ.

There is but one spirit, (Ephesians 4 and 1 Cor 12).

[Ed J]

Ed, the Spirit of God IS the Spirit of Christ.

There is but one spirit, (Ephesians 4 and 1 Cor 12).

“we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

Who is this “WE” Jesus is speaking of?

[Miia]

Ed, the ‘promise of His coming’ is the same day as ‘the day of God’, and is the same day as ‘the day of destruction’. NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED YET.

Could you address these scriptures:

Is The Earth really going to be destroyed? Understand what the 'rudiments' are!

Thanks.

[Ed J]

Ed, the Spirit of God IS the Spirit of Christ.

Hi Miia,

Are you saying that Jesus’ spirit is “God”?

[Miia]

Hi Ed. God is Spirit. According to Paul there is ”only” one Spirit of God working with a Christian (Ephesians 4 and 1 Cor 12). The Spirit is God’s presence on earth (Psalm 139.7). The Spirit is not a separate person, but is a part of God himself as 1st Corinthian shows:

“For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit ”within him”? So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.“

[Ed J]

Hi Miia,

As usual there are three questions that I asked you that you haven’t answered

[Ed J]

Ed, the Spirit of God IS the Spirit of Christ.

1) Are you saying that Jesus’ spirit is God? …”Yes” or “No”?

[Ed J]

Ed, the Spirit of God IS the Spirit of Christ.

There is but one spirit, (Ephesians 4 and 1 Cor 12).

“we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)
.
2) Who is this “WE” Jesus is speaking of?

[Ed J]

Are you calling Jesus and Peter ‘in their own delusion’?

Hi Miia,

Your question is obviously “No!
Now please answer my question, OK?
.
I DON’T SAY: “Where is the promise of his coming?” (2 Peter 3:4)
For the promise of his coming occurred at Pentecost
.
AND I DO NOT SAY:
“all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation” (2 Peter 3:4)
Because Pentecost has changed everything
.
3) Will you now admit that 2Peter 3:4 CANNOT POSSIBLY APPLY TO ME?

I have asked you three questions – and you have yet to answer them

[Ed J]

Ed, the ‘promise of His coming’ is the same day as ‘the day of God’, and is the same day as ‘the day of destruction’. NONE OF THAT HAS HAPPENED YET.

“Where is the promise of his coming?” (2 Peter 3:4)
(You are the one essentially saying this, BECAUSE you
are saying that the promise of his coming hasn’t happened)
.
Are you also saying? …
“all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation”
“Pentecost“ changed everything – yet you appear to be in denial

And you certainly appear to be scoffing; should I claim that 2Peter 3:3-4 applies to you?
Now please admit that 2Peter 3:4 DOES NOT APPLY to me either and “WE” can move on, OK?

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