Is baptism needed for salvation?

[NickHassan]

GB,
If you want these answers then search the scriptures.

[gollamudi]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 01 2008,08:01)

Nick…i never said there was not water baptism, what i said is the there is only one baptism the saves a person and it is not water baptism, but baptism of the spirit, sure there were different baptisms bit only one that really counted and that was the baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT and scripture has shown people recieve it even before they were water baptized,  But Paul finally reached the conclusion that there is only one true baptism that counts , even though there are many baptisms , Just like there are more then one circumcisions, but only one that counts, there are many gods, but only One that counts, there are many administrations but only one that counts , the administration of the Spirit. One GOD IN ALL AND THROUGH ALL, by HIS SPIRIT, which is the BAPTISM OF CHRIST. that is all anyone need to be saved it's the baptism of Christ. Nick…explain to us why JOHN said He had need to be BAPTIZED BY JESUS , what did he mean by that?

Wonderful post brother Gene,
I think brother Nick should end this endless debate on Baptism that saves.

May God bless you with more and more revelations
Adam

[gollamudi]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 01 2008,08:01)

Nick…i never said there was not water baptism, what i said is the there is only one baptism the saves a person and it is not water baptism, but baptism of the spirit, sure there were different baptisms bit only one that really counted and that was the baptism of the HOLY SPIRIT and scripture has shown people recieve it even before they were water baptized,  But Paul finally reached the conclusion that there is only one true baptism that counts , even though there are many baptisms , Just like there are more then one circumcisions, but only one that counts, there are many gods, but only One that counts, there are many administrations but only one that counts , the administration of the Spirit. One GOD IN ALL AND THROUGH ALL, by HIS SPIRIT, which is the BAPTISM OF CHRIST. that is all anyone need to be saved it's the baptism of Christ. Nick…explain to us why JOHN said He had need to be BAPTIZED BY JESUS , what did he mean by that?

Wonderful post brother Gene,
I think brother Nick should end this endless debate on Baptism that saves.

May God bless you with more and more revelations
Adam

[gollamudi]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 02 2008,18:14)

GB, Explain? Not our job. We just show and suggest obedience

Hi brother Nick,
Probably at least one time you may explain since you never do that.

[gollamudi]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 02 2008,18:14)

GB, Explain? Not our job. We just show and suggest obedience

Hi brother Nick,
Probably at least one time you may explain since you never do that.

[charity]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 03 2008,03:31)

Nick…if you going to preach something you really should be able to explain what it means, right?

depends on your perception of faith, apparently the faith most subscribe to, dose not require understanding, just repeat the sentence over and over again.

So Gene….. What? ….you have tiles galore?

[charity]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 03 2008,03:31)

Nick…if you going to preach something you really should be able to explain what it means, right?

depends on your perception of faith, apparently the faith most subscribe to, dose not require understanding, just repeat the sentence over and over again.

So Gene….. What? ….you have tiles galore?

[TimothyVI]

Quote (charity @ Oct. 08 2008,19:45)

So Gene….. What?   ….you have tiles galore?

I missed something. Where did all those tiles come from?
I hope that Gene does not get banned from posting.

Tim

[TimothyVI]

Quote (charity @ Oct. 08 2008,19:45)

So Gene….. What?   ….you have tiles galore?

I missed something. Where did all those tiles come from?
I hope that Gene does not get banned from posting.

Tim

[Tiffany]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 08 2008,23:56)

Quote (charity @ Oct. 08 2008,19:45) So Gene….. What?   ….you have tiles galore? I missed something. Where did all those tiles come from? I hope that Gene does not get banned from posting.   Tim

Yes, what did you do? Huh did you do something hidden somewhere?
When Ken got all those tiles, He got banned and could not post no more.
Peace and Love Irene

[Tiffany]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 08 2008,23:56)

Quote (charity @ Oct. 08 2008,19:45) So Gene….. What?   ….you have tiles galore? I missed something. Where did all those tiles come from? I hope that Gene does not get banned from posting.   Tim

Yes, what did you do? Huh did you do something hidden somewhere?
When Ken got all those tiles, He got banned and could not post no more.
Peace and Love Irene

[charity]

Quote (Tiffany @ Oct. 09 2008,01:31)

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 08 2008,23:56) Quote (charity @ Oct. 08 2008,19:45) So Gene….. What?   ….you have tiles galore? I missed something. Where did all those tiles come from? I hope that Gene does not get banned from posting.   Tim Yes, what did you do? Huh did you do something hidden somewhere? When Ken got all those tiles, He got banned and could not post no more. Peace and Love Irene

o well he could just as make a new handle, and still use his plane aviactor?

Mrs

[charity]

Quote (Tiffany @ Oct. 09 2008,01:31)

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 08 2008,23:56) Quote (charity @ Oct. 08 2008,19:45) So Gene….. What?   ….you have tiles galore? I missed something. Where did all those tiles come from? I hope that Gene does not get banned from posting.   Tim Yes, what did you do? Huh did you do something hidden somewhere? When Ken got all those tiles, He got banned and could not post no more. Peace and Love Irene

o well he could just as make a new handle, and still use his plane aviactor?

Mrs

[gollamudi]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 08 2008,23:56)

Quote (charity @ Oct. 08 2008,19:45) So Gene….. What?   ….you have tiles galore? I missed something. Where did all those tiles come from? I hope that Gene does not get banned from posting.   Tim

So what do you mean brother, Tim by this ?
Whether our brother Gene has been barred from posting in this forum, if so why ?

I really feel bad about this attitude of Heavennet, I request brother T8 to look into this matter and intervene and allow our senior brother Gene to post and encourage many in this forum.

Thanks and peace to you
Adam

[gollamudi]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 08 2008,23:56)

Quote (charity @ Oct. 08 2008,19:45) So Gene….. What?   ….you have tiles galore? I missed something. Where did all those tiles come from? I hope that Gene does not get banned from posting.   Tim

So what do you mean brother, Tim by this ?
Whether our brother Gene has been barred from posting in this forum, if so why ?

I really feel bad about this attitude of Heavennet, I request brother T8 to look into this matter and intervene and allow our senior brother Gene to post and encourage many in this forum.

Thanks and peace to you
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Some think God has changed his mind and the water baptisms shown in Acts at salvation are now unnecessary.
You may be right but only if God has decided you fit this category

Jn15
3Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

That would be a brave assumption.

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick………Nothing brave about it just simple belief in what is written.

love and peace to you and yours……………………gene

[NickHassan]

GB,
Where is it written?

[kerwin]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 14 2008,21:01)

Nick…..Yes it is written anyone with the Spirit of truth in them could easily see it, some have eyes to see and ears to hear other don't. Your welcome to believe its water baptism that save you all you want, I believe it the Baptism of Christ that saves Us. Believe what ever you want it a free Internet.

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John 9:6-7(NIV) 6Having said this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes. 7″Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam” (this word means Sent). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing.

So what cured this man. Was it “immersing” himself in the pool of Siloam or was it obeying Jesus and thus proving his faith?

If he chose not to “immerse” himself in the pool would he have been healed?

[KangarooJack]

Nick said:

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Some think God has changed his mind and the water baptisms shown in Acts at salvation are now unnecessary.

Nick,
Remember to include the author to the Hebrews among those who have discarded baptism (6:1-2). We have been over this already and it would serve you better if you replied specifically to challenges given to you.  

thinker

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