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What now? Is a benefit to have this believers Haven set away from the fatherless, that believers also are possibly seduced into worshiping Balam
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 23 2008,12:09) hmm,
You can lead a fish to water but you can't make him swim??
So In the same manner you can command outward baptism, yet it is all with the heart man.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 23 2008,12:09) hmm,
You can lead a fish to water but you can't make him swim??
So In the same manner you can command outward baptism, yet it is all with the heart man.Hi charity,
John passed on the message from Jesus, from God.
It is a plea for the inner washing of the grubby heart by the shed blood of the lamb.Hi charity,
John passed on the message from Jesus, from God.
It is a plea for the inner washing of the grubby heart by the shed blood of the lamb.Nick…..the grubby heart is not washed by the shed blood of the lamb. We are washed by the Holy Spirit through the SPIRITUAL BAPTISM Given us by GOD the FATHER, Jesus' shed blood brought us the forgiveness of our sins by way of his payment through the effectual working of GOD'S Spirit in him, That same Spirit is what changes our thinking and cleanses us by transforming of our minds and hearts. Nick why do you have such a hard understanding the salvation process?.
Nick…..the grubby heart is not washed by the shed blood of the lamb. We are washed by the Holy Spirit through the SPIRITUAL BAPTISM Given us by GOD the FATHER, Jesus' shed blood brought us the forgiveness of our sins by way of his payment through the effectual working of GOD'S Spirit in him, That same Spirit is what changes our thinking and cleanses us by transforming of our minds and hearts. Nick why do you have such a hard understanding the salvation process?.
GB,
Scripture speaks of washing with water and the Word.
But the Spirit ?
Eph 5
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,GB,
Scripture speaks of washing with water and the Word.
But the Spirit ?
Eph 5
26That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,Nick….washing of water (BY) the word. Now what did Jesus say the words were, they (ARE SPIRIT) the washing here is the washing by the Spirit. John said for I indeed do baptize with water, (BUT) Jesus would Baptize withe (SPIRIT) and (FIRE) . even John new there was a difference. Water is symbolically referencing SPIRIT used for cleansing a persons mind and heart.
Nick….washing of water (BY) the word. Now what did Jesus say the words were, they (ARE SPIRIT) the washing here is the washing by the Spirit. John said for I indeed do baptize with water, (BUT) Jesus would Baptize withe (SPIRIT) and (FIRE) . even John new there was a difference. Water is symbolically referencing SPIRIT used for cleansing a persons mind and heart.
GB,
You are not allowed to adjust scripture by adding your two pence worth.
Jesus is our teacher and he does not need your help.GB,
You are not allowed to adjust scripture by adding your two pence worth.
Jesus is our teacher and he does not need your help.Nick….If Jesus was your teacher then you would understand what i wrote , but it is obvious you can comprehend it. If you believe water really cleanses you from sin then you not only don't understand Jesus but you despise his words, and are still Carnal minded. IMO
Nick….If Jesus was your teacher then you would understand what i wrote , but it is obvious you can comprehend it. If you believe water really cleanses you from sin then you not only don't understand Jesus but you despise his words, and are still Carnal minded. IMO
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