Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #96353
    NickHassan
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    Hi GM,
    Your openmindedness is refreshing.
    You could be very useful in the service of our God.
    Keep feeding on scripture and God will build your awareness of the traps of false doctrine.[Pr 8.13]

    #96355
    gollamudi
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    Thanks brother, but be patient with our brother Gene, he is a senior brother and God has kept many things in him let us encourage him also.
    Blessings
    Adam

    #96357
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,
    I would love to be able to build with him but we must find a mutual base of truth.

    #96407
    gollamudi
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    I think you must have meant it for me. Isn't it?

    #96418
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Adam…..the spirit does give you the ability to spot the snakes those are the ones you need to watch out for. They want to appear like they know what they are talking abut, but in truth are lairs and deceivers. They appear to quote know scripture but in fact have no depth of Spiritual understanding in them. I have told you before will tell you again beware of them, continue to pray and trust God He will show you the right way. Don't believe me or any one here but try everything by the Spirit i (Know) God Has given you . You have no need of a man to teach you anything because the Spirit lets you understand and you know the sound of the Spirit, I am sure of that.

    Love to you and your family, give them a hug for me…………gene

    #96456
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,
    Who are these people with the great depth of Spiritual understanding?
    If you mean yourself why do you not abide in the Word?

    #96518
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…I was not addressing you , but the way i see it if anyone is not abiding in the word with understanding it would be you. I know you like to present yourself as if you are but it is oblivious to me and others your not, the only one that can't see that seems to be you.

    If you don't believe God gives understand to his elect then thats just another then you don't or should i say cant see.

    #96524
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2008,03:40)
    Adam…..the spirit does give you the ability to spot the snakes those are the ones you need to watch out for. They want to appear like they know what they are talking abut, but in truth are lairs and deceivers. They appear to quote know scripture but in fact have no depth of Spiritual understanding in them. I have told you before will tell you again beware of them, continue to pray and trust God He will show you the right way. Don't believe me or any one here but try everything  by the Spirit i (Know) God Has given you . You have no need of a man to teach you anything because the Spirit lets you understand and you know the sound of the Spirit, I am sure of that.

    Love to you and your family, give them a hug for me…………gene


    Hi brother Gene, thanks again for your kind words to me. I know our God the Father is in full control of lives through His Spirit. So no harm can be done by any false preacher or false spirit because the the one who is in us is greater than the one who is in the world.
    Thanks and peace to you
    Adam

    #96546
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,
    So it is not you who has all knowledge?
    It has not been revealed and you tried to pick for yourself a meaning for baptism.

    #96549
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..again you lie, when did i ever say i had all knowledge? Baptism has been revealed to me by scripture, it's you who can read scripture and get the meaning not me. I understand it fine.

    Please show us were i said i have all Knowledge let's be specific and let everyone see what a big lier you really are. My words to you are you are a false accuser, and do the works of your father the devil, for he was a lier from the beginning and abode not in the truth because the true was not IN HIM> So put your word where you mouth is show us.
    were waiting. you made the statement now prove it .

    #96553
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2008,03:40)
    Adam…..the spirit does give you the ability to spot the snakes those are the ones you need to watch out for. They want to appear like they know what they are talking abut, but in truth are lairs and deceivers. They appear to quote know scripture but in fact have no depth of Spiritual understanding in them. I have told you before will tell you again beware of them, continue to pray and trust God He will show you the right way. Don't believe me or any one here but try everything  by the Spirit i (Know) God Has given you . You have no need of a man to teach you anything because the Spirit lets you understand and you know the sound of the Spirit, I am sure of that.

    Love to you and your family, give them a hug for me…………gene


    Hi GB,
    So someone must have the deep understanding you speak of.
    If it is not you then who? If it is you why would you boast?

    Baptism is just baptism unless scripture tells you differently.

    #96556
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..your getting dumber by the day, Scripture does tell us there are different types of baptisms, but the one that really counts is the baptism of the spirit. if you so stupid you don't know that then there is no point of discussion this with you. you have been give all kinds of scripture and proof no point of rehashing it again.

    #96564
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,
    Where does scripture say the one that counts is that of the Spirit?

    #96566
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,
    The closest you could find is in Rom8 but the point is God does not ask us to make a choice.
    That was never the point of the scripture in Ephesians.
    The point was unity.

    #97260

    Baptism is an important symbol that you are saved through Jesus Christ the master redeemer. It is by no means required but is still important. The classical way of baptism and by the roots of the word baptism, it should be done by immersion and in front of your church and be baptized by an already baptized person. It is not required for salvation though.

    #97290
    gollamudi
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    Quote (Theologian-and-Apologist @ July 14 2008,12:37)
    Baptism is an important symbol that you are saved through Jesus Christ the master redeemer. It is by no means required but is still important. The classical way of baptism and by the roots of the word baptism, it should be done by immersion and in front of your church and be baptized by an already baptized person. It is not required for salvation though.


    Amen to that post, I agree with you brother.

    #97320
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Tand A….> i agree with you, but there is a baptism that does save, it's the baptism of the Spirit and that baptism does indeed save.

    peace to you and yours………..gene

    #97329
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,
    Is this written?
    You should not teach what is not written.

    #97369
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick…..Yes it is written anyone with the Spirit of truth in them could easily see it, some have eyes to see and ears to hear other don't. Your welcome to believe its water baptism that save you all you want, I believe it the Baptism of Christ that saves Us. Believe what ever you want it a free Internet.

    #97401
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GB,
    Once again you answer by claiming greater spiritual abilities. Should you?
    The washing by the blood, or the Word, of the lamb is what makes us clean and the Spirit equips and uses us.

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