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Dk……..the Spirit of God both defends us and accuses us. Thats how we grow to understand spiritual truths.
peace………..gene
Quote (gollamudi @ June 30 2008,23:36) Hi SuperGeek,
Welcome, your birth day shows you are only 14 is it correct?
Yes That is correct. Why do you ask?Quote (gollamudi @ June 30 2008,23:36) Hi SuperGeek,
Welcome, your birth day shows you are only 14 is it correct?
Yes That is correct. Why do you ask?Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2008,14:00) Nick….i just showed you, you just don't get it. Water baptism does NOT put you to death with Jesus it's is just symbolic of Spiritual Baptism, cant you see that.
Rom. 6:3 Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?Gal. 3:7 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ did put on Christ.
Maybe those verses will help you.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2008,14:00) Nick….i just showed you, you just don't get it. Water baptism does NOT put you to death with Jesus it's is just symbolic of Spiritual Baptism, cant you see that.
Rom. 6:3 Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?Gal. 3:7 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ did put on Christ.
Maybe those verses will help you.
Supergeek,
I see you are an Administrator over at another site, as well you have taken a poll there regarding baptism and is it essential for salvation. The poll percentage reflects the same here as there. Have you changed your view at all because of this showing?
Also, may I say that I am encouraged that you are studying the Word at such a young age. By the time your my age (40), you should know all the answers!
Take care Adam (yet another “Adam” here),
MandySupergeek,
I see you are an Administrator over at another site, as well you have taken a poll there regarding baptism and is it essential for salvation. The poll percentage reflects the same here as there. Have you changed your view at all because of this showing? Also, may I say that I am encouraged that you are studying the Word at such a young age. By the time your my age (40), you should know all the answers!
Take care Adam (yet another “Adam” here),
MandyQuote (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,07:50) Supergeek,
I see you are an Administrator over at another site, as well you have taken a poll there regarding baptism and is it essential for salvation. The poll percentage reflects the same here as there. Have you changed your view at all because of this showing? Also, may I say that I am encouraged that you are studying the Word at such a young age. By the time your my age (40), you should know all the answers!
Take care Adam (yet another “Adam” here),
Mandy
This is the 3rd poll with the same results. But it is still that no one has been able to prove to me that it isn't.Quote (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,07:50) Supergeek,
I see you are an Administrator over at another site, as well you have taken a poll there regarding baptism and is it essential for salvation. The poll percentage reflects the same here as there. Have you changed your view at all because of this showing? Also, may I say that I am encouraged that you are studying the Word at such a young age. By the time your my age (40), you should know all the answers!
Take care Adam (yet another “Adam” here),
Mandy
This is the 3rd poll with the same results. But it is still that no one has been able to prove to me that it isn't.Supergeek,
It sure sounds like an aweful lot of evidence out there…… You may want to look at it with an open mind. Do you know what is helpful for me, and what a professor in college once made a class of mind do? Pick a topic that you feel very strongly about, and are convinced of it's merit or rightful position, THEN write a paper on why it is the opposite.
So for you, write a paper on why baptism is not necessary for salvation (showing all scriptures that seem to say such). You may be surprised.
Supergeek,
It sure sounds like an aweful lot of evidence out there…… You may want to look at it with an open mind. Do you know what is helpful for me, and what a professor in college once made a class of mind do? Pick a topic that you feel very strongly about, and are convinced of it's merit or rightful position, THEN write a paper on why it is the opposite.
So for you, write a paper on why baptism is not necessary for salvation (showing all scriptures that seem to say such). You may be surprised.
Quote (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:00) Supergeek, It sure sounds like an aweful lot of evidence out there…… You may want to look at it with an open mind. Do you know what is helpful for me, and what a professor in college once made a class of mind do? Pick a topic that you feel very strongly about, and are convinced of it's merit or rightful position, THEN write a paper on why it is the opposite.
So for you, write a paper on why baptism is not necessary for salvation (showing all scriptures that seem to say such). You may be surprised.
I have heard of that before. But to do that would be hypocritical to my belief.And we all know what Jesus said about hypocrites.
And even if I was to I have not seen on passage that says it isn't needed…
Quote (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:00) Supergeek, It sure sounds like an aweful lot of evidence out there…… You may want to look at it with an open mind. Do you know what is helpful for me, and what a professor in college once made a class of mind do? Pick a topic that you feel very strongly about, and are convinced of it's merit or rightful position, THEN write a paper on why it is the opposite.
So for you, write a paper on why baptism is not necessary for salvation (showing all scriptures that seem to say such). You may be surprised.
I have heard of that before. But to do that would be hypocritical to my belief.And we all know what Jesus said about hypocrites.
And even if I was to I have not seen on passage that says it isn't needed…
OK, Supergeek, whatever you say. But it is helpful to broaden your view on things and the world. You don't have to buy what you are writing and proving, but it would help you to see another side of the issue. So many times that is exactly what is lacking in folks who will not budge from a belief – even if the belief can be proven wrong. Good luck and again, I'm so encouraged by your zeal for the Lord.
MandyOK, Supergeek, whatever you say. But it is helpful to broaden your view on things and the world. You don't have to buy what you are writing and proving, but it would help you to see another side of the issue. So many times that is exactly what is lacking in folks who will not budge from a belief – even if the belief can be proven wrong. Good luck and again, I'm so encouraged by your zeal for the Lord.
MandyQuote (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:10) OK, Supergeek, whatever you say. But it is helpful to broaden your view on things and the world. You don't have to buy what you are writing and proving, but it would help you to see another side of the issue. So many times that is exactly what is lacking in folks who will not budge from a belief – even if the belief can be proven wrong. Good luck and again, I'm so encouraged by your zeal for the Lord.
Mandy
Mandy,If someone could prove me wrong I would change but since no one has yet to do this I have no reason to change. Perhaps you know a verse or two that says baptism isn't needed for salvation. If so I would be glad to see them.
May GOD be with you,
AdamQuote (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:10) OK, Supergeek, whatever you say. But it is helpful to broaden your view on things and the world. You don't have to buy what you are writing and proving, but it would help you to see another side of the issue. So many times that is exactly what is lacking in folks who will not budge from a belief – even if the belief can be proven wrong. Good luck and again, I'm so encouraged by your zeal for the Lord.
Mandy
Mandy,If someone could prove me wrong I would change but since no one has yet to do this I have no reason to change. Perhaps you know a verse or two that says baptism isn't needed for salvation. If so I would be glad to see them.
May GOD be with you,
AdamQuote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2008,16:22) Dk……..the Spirit of God both defends us and accuses us. Thats how we grow to understand spiritual truths. peace………..gene
Gen. Did you not tell me before that you were in the W.W.Church of God? If so were you not Baptized? As a member all do get Baptized in time. And I can say that after I was Baptized things happened with me, which before did not. I believe that we receive the Holy Spirit and then can understand the things of God. Before I believe God gives us enough to come out of the world, but when the Minister lays hands on you, it makes a difference.
So don't you believe that most do get Baptized?
Irene
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