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- December 24, 2017 at 10:27 am#820308NickHassanParticipant
Hi Gene,
Jn 15.3 and Eph 5.26 show that the Word also has the power to cleanse.
God seemed to show that Cornelius and friends in Acts 10 has been made clean enough for His Spirit.
Yet Peter ordered them to be water baptised as well to show both baptisms are required to fulfill all righteousness.
December 25, 2017 at 4:46 am#820318GeneBalthropParticipantNick…..Please don’t think i am against water baptizm into the name of Jesus, becaue i am not. I was just showing the difference between them. The apostles were all baptized way before they recieved the holy spirit but none of that prevented them from denying Jesus, or even betraying him as Judas did, and they all heard the word of God from scriptures as well as Jesus himself, but none of that caused them to overcome anything, but on the first pentocost after the death of Jesus when they recieved the holy spirit they begain to be truly taught by GOD.
Water Baptizm “alone” does nothing but get you wet, millions have done that and have not the holy spirit just like JOHN SAID , ‘I COME BAPTIZM WITH WATER BUT There IS ONE ANONG YOU WHO WILL BAPTIZE YOU WITH SPIRIT AND FIRE.
Again i say, we should be baptized with water, as well as RECIEVE the baptizm of JESUS given by GOD the Father , SPIRIT AND FIRE. This is the baptizm from God the Father it changes our hearts and minds and is our true teacher.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
December 25, 2017 at 6:59 am#820319NickHassanParticipantHi Gene,
There is no record of the apostles being baptised.
Perhaps they were or perhaps they were washed by the Word.
But do not mock or diminish the ways of God.
December 25, 2017 at 8:21 am#820320NickHassanParticipantHi,
Man is a vessel designed to house the Spirit.
Instead, since Adam’s rebellion and idolatry of the god of this world, he has housed sin in the flesh.
He must be forgiven and made clean and baptism is a plea for that to happen.
December 25, 2017 at 10:55 am#820323Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
Merry Christmas!
December 25, 2017 at 2:23 pm#820334NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
blessings to you.
But the traditional stuff does not fit with the bible.
Most have nothing to celebrate because the judge of men has come and they have yet to find the way of salvation.
December 25, 2017 at 2:28 pm#820335Ed JParticipantOK, have it your way.
Did you visit with family?
December 25, 2017 at 3:00 pm#820340ProclaimerParticipantYou can’t be saved if you live in the desert, unless you live near a spring. Neither is any man saved before John. LOL.
December 25, 2017 at 3:02 pm#820341Ed JParticipantHi Nick,
“he that believeth in me, though he were dead (symbolizing water baptized), yet shall he live:
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die (symbolizing no water baptism).
{John 11:25-26)____________
God bless
Ed JDecember 25, 2017 at 7:47 pm#820345NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Would you mock the plan of God?
Would you imagine stumbling blocks before those called and chosen?
Was God not capable of anticipating and providing for the baptismal needs of the Eunuch or the jailer?
Think again.
December 25, 2017 at 8:06 pm#820346NickHassanParticipantHi T8,
Before the law sin was not ascribed.
When the Law was given the Jewish people could be made clean by observance of the Law. Jesus is living proof.
God, Who knows all hearts, also made exceptions for those gentiles who lived according to the precepts of the Law as Rom 2 makes plain.
The Law and the prophets were in force until the time of John.Lk 16.16
Those who refused the baptism of John rejected the purpose of God for themselves. Lk 7.29-30
December 26, 2017 at 8:26 am#820386NickHassanParticipantHi,
Acts 2.41
So then those who had received his word were baptised, and that day there were about added three thousand souls.
December 26, 2017 at 10:18 am#820388NickHassanParticipantHi,
Gal.3.27
For all of you who were baptised into Christ were clothed with Christ.
Matt 22.11
But when the king came in to look over the wedding guests, he saw a man who was not dressed in wedding clothes…
December 26, 2017 at 11:27 am#820392NickHassanParticipantHi,
Rev19.8
It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.
So we must produce a profit on the investment God has made in us.
Fruit.
December 26, 2017 at 12:28 pm#820399GeneBalthropParticipantNick….can it read , “for all of you who were baptized into the anointing were colthed with the anointing” . The word Christ may not always mean the man Jesus. Notice the word Jesus does not appear in the text. Many get the “man” Jesus mixed up with the word anointing spirit, as if the “man” jesus himself was the anointing spirit he was anointed with. The common denominator is the anointing spirit of GOD. WE are spritually connected with JESUS, HAVING THE SAME SPIRIT IN US AS IN HIM, EVEN GOD.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
December 26, 2017 at 12:32 pm#820402NickHassanParticipantHi,
Lk 6.46
Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord’ and do not do what I say?
December 26, 2017 at 12:37 pm#820404GeneBalthropParticipantNick…..as you quoted, 1 Cor 12:13, “for by one spirit we are baptized into one body”. Whether we be Jew’s or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have all been made to drink into one spirit.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
December 26, 2017 at 12:59 pm#820405NickHassanParticipantHi Gene,
Yes the cleansed can share the eternal Spirit.
December 26, 2017 at 1:48 pm#820406NickHassanParticipantHi,
Col 2.12
having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were raised up with him through faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.
December 26, 2017 at 2:18 pm#820409NickHassanParticipantHi,
Jn 3
Truly, Truly I say unto you.
Unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God
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