Is baptism needed for salvation?

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 27 2014,12:22)

Quote (terraricca @ April 27 2014,07:42) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2014,16:22) Hi WU, Faith is far more useful than knowledge and so is wisdom. Wisdom is justified by her children Nick Wisdom is justified by her children; what this mean T. Nick is definitely not seeking after knowldge. Just going around passing time, and stirring up. wakeup.

Wakeup……….You would do well to listen to what Nick says IMO.

peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 27 2014,19:11)

Terricca………..Wisdom another words is Justified by what it Produces. Wisdom is the wise use of our knowledge which God has given us. Wisdom is how we put our knowledge to work , we can use it foolishly or wisely. A fool uses his knowledge foolishly and a wise person uses it wisely. peace and love to you and your………………….gene

GENE

THIS DOES NOT EVEN MAKE SENS ,WHAT YOU SAY

[kerwin]

T,

Gene had a bad English moment. I think I can figure out what he is saying but it is for him to correct his own errors.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
A man of knowledge may be aware of the necessity to be baptised in water in the name of Jesus Christ
A man of wisdom immediately acts on that information.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2014,00:43)

Hi, A man of knowledge may be aware of the necessity to be baptised in water in the name of Jesus Christ A man of wisdom immediately acts on that information.

nick

knowledge is of God ,and the wisdom is of the knowledge of God ,

so a wise men is someone that as combine the knowledge and wisdom of God in one single understanding ,and

wait for God to help

Pr 9:10 “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom,
and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

Pr 8:32 “Now then, my sons, listen to me;
blessed are those who keep my ways.
Pr 8:33 Listen to my instruction and be wise;
do not ignore it.
Pr 8:34 Blessed is the man who listens to me,
watching daily at my doors,
waiting at my doorway.
Pr 8:35 For whoever finds me finds life
and receives favor from the LORD

Pr 8:32 “Now then, my sons, listen to me;
blessed are those who keep my ways.
Pr 8:33 Listen to my instruction and be wise;
do not ignore it.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
If you want to teach you must first see the kingdom.
You cannot see the kingdom until you are reborn from above.[jn3]

[terraricca]

Nick

if you are blessed by God ,you are seeing the kingdom and he is first in your life

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
Where does it say the 144000 of flesh are taken up??

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Water baptism is in the name of Jesus Christ. acts

[Wakeup]

Even the word baptism is not fully understood
amongst christians.
It is always understood as water.
But this is not the case.
It is not always related to water.
One can be baptised with the HS also,
and with other kinds of baptism.
Can anyone explain?

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Baptism in water is the type
Other baptisms are specified.

Do you still not respect the HOLY SPIRIT?

[NickHassan]

Hi,
But all need to repent and be baptised in water and the Spirit

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,08:59)

Hi, But all need to repent and be baptised in water and the Spirit

Nick.

President Bush was baptised by the baptist church.
Klinton was baptised catholic.
Many misguided false prophets are baptised.
Mormons do baptise.
Jw's do baptise.
The sda do baptise.
The church of scientology do baptise.(i am not sure).
Jim Jones does baptise.

Meaning; anyone can be baptised.
Baptism is just the beginning of a long christian, journey.
Many have fallen short by being of Babylon.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
All must repent
False baptisms abound.
Acts 19 shows which is required.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,23:49)

Hi WU, All must repent False baptisms abound. Acts 19 shows which is required.

Nick.

It's good to be baptised,but its not good to
slide back to babylon,in our spirit and mind and deeds.
This is the reason why the angel is calling christians to come out of babylon. Baptised christians mind you.
Baptised or not;if you are of babylon; you will receive the wrath of God.

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, *Come out of her*, **my people**, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

So dont feel so secure because you are baptised with water.
Incase you dont know: her=babylon the great.

wakeup.

wakeup

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
true

[NickHassan]

Hi,
1 Peter 3
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

[NickHassan]

Hi,
In whose name were you baptised paul asked in Acts 19.
Many false baptisms of infants and in other names blind the deceived

[terraricca]

N

the circumcision of the heart as been around sins the foundation of Israel,

baptism in Moses is similar to the baptism in Christ ,not with water but with faith in his name ,as the true prophet of God and only begotten son of God

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Baptism in water is the new circumcision
col 2.11-13

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