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Hi WU,
God decides who is clean enough for His Spirit to abide in.
For those since Jesus water baptism is commandedQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2014,09:57) Hi WU,
God decides who is clean enough for His Spirit to abide in.
For those since Jesus water baptism is commanded
Nick.You can not tell me who baptised John the baptist?
Was He baptised with water or not?
He was killed soon after.
He had the Hs since his conception.wakeup.
Hi WU,
1.Matthew 11:11
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.He was not baptised into Christ so that is why mt 11 says this.
But he was saved by his obedience to God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2014,10:19) Hi WU,
Would you think a Spirit filled clean prophet of the OT needs baptism?
Nick.Why was Jesus baptised with water?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ April 18 2013,10:54) What does water babtism serve? If one decides to change his life according to christ,
he /she has to come forward and to be seen of witnesses.
That he has promised the Lord to live according to christ.The water symbolises the washing of the *PREVIOUS* sins.
This does not guarantee everlasting life.
For many have broken that promise by living a sinful life again;just as it was before.
He has *UNBABTIZED HIMSELF*.This is worse in my opinion,because he has promised the Lord ,and then broken that promise.
Does he need to be babtized again? And again? To wash away the sins?
Was Judas iscariot not babtized? That baptism has not done a thing for him,does it? If one is dying in the desert and he repented for his sins,how can he be babtised, with no water around? Is he lost because of no water?An unbabtized person living a christlike life will be saved;
rather than a babtized person living a worldly life.
Anyone one disagree with this, is because he has been moulded by the churches according to their faulty doctrines.Be babtized with water thats very good;but then,the proof is in the pudding. Many babtized christians have gone back to the spirit of babylon.The washed away sins, has reappeared
double.Many unbabtized with water christians, has come out of babylon,because the father has drawn them,and given them babtism of the Holy spirit.The spirit of Christ dwells in them.
Why are some not babtized with water?
It is because they can not find anyone worthy of babtizing;
they all are of the world.
I will not have the pope babtize me,or some other preacher.
The proof in the pudding is what counts.And that is, to come out of babylon,and dwell in the city of peace;Zion, and receive mercy.
Call upon the name of the Lord daily,and ask for mercy,and he will hear. Dont touch the unclean thing,and be holy.Many also are babtized with water and the Holy spirit.
Be babtized with water ,and keep yourself clean.
Forbid not to babtize. Dont judge by babtism,but by the fruits.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup:You are baptized in water because you have believed the word of God with a repentant heart, and it is a public profession that you are united with Christ in his death, burial and resurrection.
The scriptures state that it was done by immersion, and so, that is the way it should be done.
It is not about someone being worthy to baptize you in water. The Lord knows what you are professing. It is your faith that saves you not the preacher's.
And no, you cannot come be back to be baptized again, if in fact you have been born again. If you go back into the world and start practicing sin willfully again, you can come back and confess your sins, and ask the Lord to take you back, and he will either accept you back or not depending on the circumstances. But if you ask to be baptized again, you will be crucifying the Lord anew, and putting him to an open shame, as the scriptures state.
This is what the Word of God states relative to Esau:
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Heb 12:14Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
Heb 12:15
Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
Heb 12:16
Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
Heb 12:17
For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears
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Heb 6:4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Love in Christ,
MartyHi 94,
But if you are baptised in the wrong name- John, trinity or as an unknowing infant or the name of a church you should be done in the name of Jesus ChristActs 19
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2014,12:36) Hi 94,
But if you are baptised in the wrong name- John, trinity or as an unknowing infant or the name of a church you should be done in the name of Jesus ChristActs 19
Hi Nick:You should be baptized in the name of Jesus. There is no other name under heaven whereby man can be saved.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Wakeup @ April 24 2014,04:37) Quote (kerwin @ April 24 2014,01:37) To whomever it may concern, Is one part of a key the key?
Getting immersed in water is one part of the gospel.
Kerwin.One can be baptised with water ten times,but if he is not given the HS; is because something is not right in the eyes of God.
Man can baptise anyone with water;but Jesus does not baptise just anyone with the HS.Paul was given the HS before he was baptised with water in Christ.
wakeup.
Wakeup,As I said it is just part of the gospel. It is foolish to add or subtract from the gospel.
Quote (kerwin @ April 24 2014,16:04) Quote (Wakeup @ April 24 2014,04:37) Quote (kerwin @ April 24 2014,01:37) To whomever it may concern, Is one part of a key the key?
Getting immersed in water is one part of the gospel.
Kerwin.One can be baptised with water ten times,but if he is not given the HS; is because something is not right in the eyes of God.
Man can baptise anyone with water;but Jesus does not baptise just anyone with the HS.Paul was given the HS before he was baptised with water in Christ.
wakeup.
Wakeup,As I said it is just part of the gospel. It is foolish to add or subtract from the gospel.
Kerwin.Circumcision of the flesh is done away with;because it is of the flesh. Circumcision of the heart is desired by God.
Baptism in water is not done away with; but it's just the washing of the flesh.
What God wants is the washing of the heart.
The inside of the cup.Many are like white washed graves on the outside,but not on the inside: is full of dead mans bones.
An unwashed beggar will not be rejected by God;because He is dirty and smelly.
wakeup.
Wakeup
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Quote Circumcision of the flesh is done away with;because it is of the flesh. Circumcision of the heart is desired by God. I am Gentile and circumcised, though not for religious reasons, Circumcision of the flesh is not done away for my people since it is not a Gentile teaching and never requirement for them.
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Quote Baptism in water is not done away with; but it's just the washing of the flesh. What God wants is the washing of the heart.
The inside of the cup.Even under the old covenant humans were credited with washing the inside of the cup. Immersion was a symbolic washing. In the new covenant it became more as by it a believer signs the new covenant with God.
Quote (kerwin @ April 25 2014,04:59) Wakeup 1)
Quote Circumcision of the flesh is done away with;because it is of the flesh. Circumcision of the heart is desired by God. I am Gentile and circumcised, though not for religious reasons, Circumcision of the flesh is not done away for my people since it is not a Gentile teaching and never requirement for them.
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Quote Baptism in water is not done away with; but it's just the washing of the flesh. What God wants is the washing of the heart.
The inside of the cup.Even under the old covenant humans were credited with washing the inside of the cup. Immersion was a symbolic washing. In the new covenant it became more as by it a believer signs the new covenant with God.
Kerwin.The washing of the heart is truly living in Christ;
as much as can do. Some are stronger than others.Depending on the foundation his faith is build on.
The more knowledge;the stronger the foundation.
The tougher to beat.wakeup.
Hi WU,
Faith is far more useful than knowledge and so is wisdom.
Wisdom is justified by her childrenQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2014,16:22) Hi WU,
Faith is far more useful than knowledge and so is wisdom.
Wisdom is justified by her children
NickWisdom is justified by her children;
what this mean
Quote (terraricca @ April 27 2014,07:42) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2014,16:22) Hi WU,
Faith is far more useful than knowledge and so is wisdom.
Wisdom is justified by her children
NickWisdom is justified by her children;
what this mean
T.Nick is definitely not seeking after knowldge.
Just going around passing time, and stirring up.wakeup.
Terricca………..Wisdom another words is Justified by what it Produces. Wisdom is the wise use of our knowledge which God has given us. Wisdom is how we put our knowledge to work , we can use it foolishly or wisely. A fool uses his knowledge foolishly and a wise person uses it wisely.
peace and love to you and your………………….gene
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