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Quote (Wakeup @ April 02 2014,00:28) J42. This is a total new teaching,they have never heard before
and it's kind of a shock.
Resistance is expected;some will put on great resistance.
The truth does hurts,so be gentle;give a little solid food at the time.They may get choked.
Conscience will speak loud.You are doing a good job.
wakeup.
Thanks Wakeup.All I can see is that we are throwing our pearls away,
for men to trample on.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,04:41) Hi,
In the dogmas of the worldly
opinion is king
Darkness
Hi Nick1 Timothy 6:20 …avoiding profane and vain babblings,
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,13:47) Hi J42,
Accuser of the brethren?
My fault is to ask for alignment with scripture?
NickYou are too busy criticising everyone,
no time to seek the truth and find out if things are so.
If you are not doing this, then feel free to call me a liar.Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2014,02:59) Wakeup, Quote Kerwin. It is not a new teaching,but it has been misunderstood for thousands of Years.
One that is born again is spirit;not flesh.
The resurrection is when Mother Zion gives birth to all her children at once.
She is spirit; and all born of the spirit will be born spirit.All born of water is flesh.
wakeup.
I can see the argument that flesh birth is a water birth, even though amniotic fluid is not literally water. Our culture has called it water though I do not know if the Jewish culture of the First Century did.
I do know they taught of a new spirit when getting immersed as that is one reason they immersed themselves in water. John seemed to have a variation where he immersed those who pledged a clear conscious before God instead of them immersing themselves but the basic forms were the same as mentioned in the Law. Getting a new spirit is rebirth in spirit.
Kerwin.Tell me:
When the apostles were baptised in water;
did they receive the Holy Spirit?wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,16:51) Hi WU,
Not known but they were washed in the wordJn 15.3
NickIt is known. It's in the scriptures.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,18:17) Hi WU,
When were the apostles baptised in water?
Nick.When the river was wet, with water.
The water is wet.wakeup.
Quote (journey42 @ April 01 2014,23:32) Nick The garden of Eden was paradise. Yes.
That's where it all started.
That's where the tree of life was.
Not many people realise that the tree of life was in Jerusalem.The tree of Life was Christ,
and he will return to Jerusalem.
Jerusalem will be like Eden was again.
In the millennium.
Jerusalem is paradise,
that is the physical kingdom area with boundaries,
where all who dwell in there will be safe.
All living outside the kingdom area travelling to visit, will be safe also.
but before Jerusalem gets restored to paradise again, it will suffer complete desolation.Ezekiel 36:35 And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
Now you have heard something new you didn't know.
Lets see if you will trample this also?
Journey………..You and wakeup making a lot of assumptions , but where is your scripture back up that clearly says what you guys post> I can't find them , i see only you guys putting them together that are not always written clearly, or soundly either. Nick just asks you for your specific scriptures backing up your words, but what you produce some times is not specifically written.So I would not get upset with Nick for asking for Specific Scripture TRUTH, this is what a good seeker of the truth should do right? IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 03 2014,02:00) Quote (journey42 @ April 01 2014,23:32) Nick The garden of Eden was paradise. Yes.
That's where it all started.
That's where the tree of life was.
Not many people realise that the tree of life was in Jerusalem.The tree of Life was Christ,
and he will return to Jerusalem.
Jerusalem will be like Eden was again.
In the millennium.
Jerusalem is paradise,
that is the physical kingdom area with boundaries,
where all who dwell in there will be safe.
All living outside the kingdom area travelling to visit, will be safe also.
but before Jerusalem gets restored to paradise again, it will suffer complete desolation.Ezekiel 36:35 And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
Now you have heard something new you didn't know.
Lets see if you will trample this also?
Journey………..You and wakeup making a lot of assumptions , but where is your scripture back up that clearly says what you guys post> I can't find them , i see only you guys putting them together that are not always written clearly, or soundly either. Nick just asks you for your specific scriptures backing up your words, but what you produce some times is not specifically written.So I would not get upset with Nick for asking for Specific Scripture TRUTH, this is what a good seeker of the truth should do right? IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
GeneB.Be humble enough to ask,and it shall be given.
For there are many many scriptures.If you consider yourself an all knowing teacher;it is hard to ask.Asking makes one feel less knowing.Oh no;cant do that.
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,16:51) Hi WU,
Not known but they were washed in the wordJn 15.3
Nick.Not known to you.
I know that they only received the HS at pantecost.
Not at baptism.wakeup.
Hi WU,
Yes there is no record of the apostles being baptised.
Neither did those who had been baptised by Philip receive the Holy Spirit till hands were laid on them later.Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,11:33) Hi WU,
Yes there is no record of the apostles being baptised.
Neither did those who had been baptised by Philip receive the Holy Spirit till hands were laid on them later.
My thanks to you.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,12:33) Hi WU,
But they obeyed the master baptising all who repented.
Nick.I agree, but they are not born again untill they come out of Mother Zions belly.
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2014,12:38) Hi WU,
You speak about those 144000 of Zion
Nick.They(the 144000), will be taken up first.
The rest must go through the fire(tribulation) first.
And then reborn in spirit form.wakeup.
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