Is baptism needed for salvation?

[NickHassan]

Quote (terraricca @ April 27 2010,08:29)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,07:00) G, Why do you cast scripture aside to develop your theories and yet your faith must stand on it? Freedom in the Spirit does not include freedom from scriptural teaching. nick it is understanding the spirit of Christ ,that is lock up in scriptures that we have to learn to understand, some people can quote all scriptures but do not understand the message in it. what that does??

Hi T,
Indeed the Spirit of Christ will open up the truths already written.

But those who wander beyond those truths into speculation are not helping themselves or others.

Such is gnosticism.

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,07:00)

G, Why do you cast scripture aside to develop your theories and yet your faith must stand on it? Freedom in the Spirit does not include freedom from scriptural teaching.

Nick………Show me where i cast any scripture aside as you say. Post it, or are you also a false accuser of the brethren. And why say Freedom in the SPIRIT and you don't yet even know what Spirit IS? You would be far better of to lose the trash mouth and just engage the dialog and show you scriptural proofs, instead of just trash talking so much. IMO

peave and love……………….gene

[NickHassan]

GB,
You only believe of it what agrees with your intellect/determinism/universalism theories.
But it was the beginning of your walk and offers your hoped for inheritance.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,09:14)

Quote (terraricca @ April 27 2010,08:29) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,07:00) G, Why do you cast scripture aside to develop your theories and yet your faith must stand on it? Freedom in the Spirit does not include freedom from scriptural teaching. nick it is understanding the spirit of Christ ,that is lock up in scriptures that we have to learn to understand, some people can quote all scriptures but do not understand the message in it. what that does?? Hi T, Indeed the Spirit of Christ will open up the truths already written. But those who wander beyond those truths into speculation are not helping themselves or others. Such is gnosticism.

nick

i have a son in law
who is gnostic, but he does not want to talk to me about God,so i only can talk to him about computers and that staf.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
It was one of the original errors that plagued the apostles.
Men made alive in the Spirit that assume whatever they say is anointed.

Scripture imposes rather strict limits on what is truth.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
So to follow the teaching of scripture all should repent and seek water baptism in the name of Jesus and baptism in the Spirit. To see the kingdom you need to obey and be reborn of water and the Spirit.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,11:17)

Hi, So to follow the teaching of scripture all should repent and seek water baptism in the name of Jesus and baptism in the Spirit. To see the kingdom you need to obey and be reborn of water and the Spirit.

nick
you first have to answer my question;which church can we pick ?

which individual can we go to ?

or that it matter provide we plunged in water and someone says in the name of Christ??

what is the meaning of baptism in water??repentance or symbolise the dead of Christ for us and his resurrection??

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The body of Christ is the true church.
Seek

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

I think those who have obeyed are the ones to seek baptism through.
Human denominations are irrelevant
Acts 2.38
Rom6
1Peter3

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,15:15)

Hi T, I think those who have obeyed are the ones to seek baptism through. Human denominations are irrelevant Acts 2.38 Rom6 1Peter3

nick

like always you say nothing,and let all people in the dark.

human denomination are irrelevant ,so you say ,what does it mean??

is it that it is ok to be baptized into any denomination provided it is by immersion???

even trinitarian??

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
To be baptised into the body of Christ is the aim.
Seek those with only one master.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,15:34)

Hi T, To be baptised into the body of Christ is the aim. Seek those with only one master.

nick

i have only one master,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Denominations have at least two.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,16:20)

Hi T, Denominations have at least two.

nick

ok 1) ?
2) ?

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Denominations press their own set of rules on members and disagreement is discouraged.
They sell their own denomination ahead of God's eternal kingdom.
They offer their own teachings and traditions

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,16:29)

Hi T, Denominations press their own set of rules on members and disagreement is discouraged. They sell their own denomination ahead of God's eternal kingdom. They offer their own teachings and traditions

nick

we are back to square one.

there is no one ,because many are saying they have one master but it takes time and have to know them to see that what they say is what they are

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Seek the body of Christ.
Pray about it.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Prov3 5-6

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,16:45)

Hi T, Seek the body of Christ. Pray about it.

nick

i have been baptized many times and my last i meant it to for God will in me.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2010,16:46)

Hi T, Prov3 5-6

nick

what you think i am be doing for the past 50 years.

Pr 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
Pr 3:6 in all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will make your paths straight.

Pr 3:7 Do not be wise in your own eyes;
fear the LORD and shun evil.
Pr 3:8 This will bring health to your body
and nourishment to your bones.

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