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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2013,11:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 26 2013,06:28) He is not ruling but sitting; until God make his enemies his footstool.
Then what do you make of 1 Cor 15:25, Wakeup? That one says he is reigning right now, right?I understand it as Jesus will reign from the right hand of his God until His God places all his enemies at his feet and he destroys them.
The LAST enemy to be destroyed is death, at which time Jesus will hand the reigns back over to his Father and God.
But who is to say there aren't other enemies being either destroyed or “put in their places” right now – and up until the time the LAST enemy is destroyed?
Tell me about 1 Cor 15:25. The Greek word is “basileuo”, and means “to be king, to exercise kingly power, to reign”.
Mike B.Then what do you make of 1 Cor 15:25, Wakeup? That one says he is reigning right now, right?
COR.15:25.
FOR HE MUST REIGN,*TILL* HE HAS PUT *ALL* ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.*PROPHESYING THE FUTURE*.
CHRIST IS NOT REIGNING IN PAULS TIME, NOR TODAY.
INSTEAD;SATAN AND HIS ANGELS ARE PUT HERE.26. THE LAST ENEMY THAT SHALL BE DESTROYED IS DEATH(SATAN).
SATAN AND ALL HIS ANGELS ARE NOW ON EARTH.
*WOE* TO THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH;FOR THE DEVIL HAS COME TO YOU.WHY SHOULD GOD BRING HIS ENEMIES IN HIS KINGDOM?
THEY HAVE TO BRING EVIL TO THE *FULL* BEFORE EVIL WILL BE DESTROYED.THIS IS THE REASON WHY THEY WERE NOT DESTROYED DURING THE WAR IN HEAVEN;
AND AT THE SECOND COMING.THEIR EVIL WORK IS NOT DONE YET,UNTILL THE LAST WAR,WHICH IS THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG.AT THE MOMENT,THE LAND IS DESOLATE,MEANING THERE IS NO KNOWLEDGE IN THE LAND OF THE SO CALLED CHRISTIANS.
ONLY THE TRUE FOLLOWERS ARE UNDER CHRIST RULE,BUT HIS *KINGDOM* IS NOT HERE YET.I understand it as Jesus will reign from the right hand of his God until His God places all his enemies at his feet and he destroys them.
YES; GOD IS WORKING OUT TO BRING THEM ALL TO THE ONE PLACE (MEGIDDO); THEN THEY WILL BE DESTROYED.
AND CHRIST WILL START RULING WITH HIS SAINTS,UNTILL DEATH IS CONQUERED.The LAST enemy to be destroyed is death, at which time Jesus will hand the reigns back over to his Father and God.
AGREE. SATAN AND HIS ANGELS WILL BE CAST IN THE FIRE AFTER THE WAR OF GOG AND MAGOG.THEN THE WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT.
But who is to say there aren't other enemies being either destroyed or “put in their places” right now – and up until the time the LAST enemy is destroyed?
THERE ARE NO ENEMIES BEING DESTROYED RIGHT NOW,BECAUSE EVIL *MUST* COME TO THE FULL.
ONE OR MORE PERSONS *TRULY* ACCEPTING CHRIST,IS NOT SEEN AS CONQUERRING THE ENEMY.Tell me about 1 Cor 15:25. The Greek word is “basileuo”, and means “to be king, to exercise kingly power, to reign”.
YOU SAID WORDS; *TO BE* KING.
CHRIST KINGDOM WILL START AFTER THE CITIES OF THE *NATIONS* FELL.(REV.16:19).
NO EVIL CAN ENTER IN THE KINGDOM.
A KINGDOM OF 2240KM LENGTH,WIDTH; HIGHT.
WITH NO WALLS.wakeup.
Quote (abe @ Aug. 27 2013,17:30) Hi Wakeup, (Quote)
AT THE MOMENT,JESUS IS SITTING NEXT TO HIS FATHER.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE 12TRIBES OF ISRAEL IS NOT JUDGED YET.THIS WILL BE AT JUDGEMENT DAY.AT THE MOMENT,JESUS IS SITTING NEXT TO HIS FATHER.
Acts7:54 54Now when they heard this, they were cut to the quick, and they [began] gnashing their teeth at him(Stephen).
55 But being Full of the Holy Spirit, he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus *standing* at the right hand of God;
and Jesus *Standing* at the right hand of God;
Scripture says standing.
Peace..
Abe.Acts7:54 54Now when they heard this, they were cut to the quick, and they [began] gnashing their teeth at him(Stephen).
THEY; ARE THE JEW KILLERS.
55 But being Full of the Holy Spirit, he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus *standing* at the right hand of God;
STEPHEN SAW A VISION JESUS STANDING NEXT TO GOD.
DOES IT SEEM STRANGE TO YOU THAT HE IS STANDING? SHOULD HE JUST SIT, AND SIT, AT ALL TIMES?and Jesus *Standing* at the right hand of God;
NOT ONLY CAN JESUS STAND;BUT ALSO MOVE AROUND
IN HEAVEN.Scripture says standing.
I AGREE.wakeup.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,03:26) (1555.7) 139:4.14 “When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing. It is preserved in only fragmentary and adulterated form.” Urantia revelation 1955 Colter
The Xurantia Revelation 2014 says that the Urantia revelation is wrong and incomplete.Watch for the Xurantia Revelation in all fine book stores next year. Copies can be ordered now though. Let me know below how many copies you would like.
Xuruman
Quote (abe @ Aug. 27 2013,18:33) Hi Wakeup, Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2013,06:09)
Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory, ye also *shall* sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Jesus did not rule in his throne the minute satan was thrown down to earth.
For God said: Sit thou on my right hand ;*UNTILL* I make your enemies your footstool.I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,
in the ** regeneration**
Tit.3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, [and] hating one another.
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man Appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of *Regeneration*, and Renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.The *Regeneration* is Past.
Peace………………..
Abe.I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,
Jesus speaking to his followers with him at that time.
The renewing of minds is still going on today,but at a very slow pace. Because the spirit of babylon is working
double time; to tempt them with all the leisure of the world. We need to come out of babylon.What is your question?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 27 2013,02:30) Quote (abe @ Aug. 27 2013,18:33) Hi Wakeup, Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2013,06:09)
Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory, ye also *shall* sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Jesus did not rule in his throne the minute satan was thrown down to earth.
For God said: Sit thou on my right hand ;*UNTILL* I make your enemies your footstool.I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,
in the ** regeneration**
Tit.3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, [and] hating one another.
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man Appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of *Regeneration*, and Renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.The *Regeneration* is Past.
Peace………………..
Abe.I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,
Jesus speaking to his followers with him at that time.
The renewing of minds is still going on today,but at a very slow pace. Because the spirit of babylon is working
double time; to tempt them with all the leisure of the world. We need to come out of babylon.What is your question?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,(Quote)
The renewing of minds is still going on today,but at a very slow pace. Because the spirit of babylon is working
double time; to tempt them with all the leisure of the world. We need to come out of babylon.spirit of babylon?
Do you have Scripture for this?
Peace……..
Quote (abe @ Aug. 28 2013,03:37) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 27 2013,02:30) Quote (abe @ Aug. 27 2013,18:33) Hi Wakeup, Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2013,06:09)
Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory, ye also *shall* sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Jesus did not rule in his throne the minute satan was thrown down to earth.
For God said: Sit thou on my right hand ;*UNTILL* I make your enemies your footstool.I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,
in the ** regeneration**
Tit.3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, [and] hating one another.
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man Appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of *Regeneration*, and Renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.The *Regeneration* is Past.
Peace………………..
Abe.I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, **in the ** regeneration** **when** the Son of man *shall* sit in the throne of his glory,
Jesus speaking to his followers with him at that time.
The renewing of minds is still going on today,but at a very slow pace. Because the spirit of babylon is working
double time; to tempt them with all the leisure of the world. We need to come out of babylon.What is your question?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,(Quote)
The renewing of minds is still going on today,but at a very slow pace. Because the spirit of babylon is working
double time; to tempt them with all the leisure of the world. We need to come out of babylon.spirit of babylon?
Do you have Scripture for this?
Peace……..
Abe.The spirit of babylon is also the spirit of this world.
If you love the things of the world,you have the spirit of the world in you. Your mind set is of the world.
If you love righteousness ;you have the spirit of God.
Then you are not *of* the world but of zion.I can only show you this one.
Eph.2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the **course of this world**,according to the prince of the power of the air,the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobenience.The *course of this world* or the *spirit of this world*or the *mind set of this world*.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
Do you believe Jesus is NOW the King of kings? Or do you believe that he will someday BE the King of kings?
Because kings rule, right?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2013,13:00) Wakeup, Do you believe Jesus is NOW the King of kings? Or do you believe that he will someday BE the King of kings?
Because kings rule, right?
MokeB.Thats a very tricky question,but not hard to answer.
We as of today call him Lord,or Jesus.
He only will be called Lord of lords in truth, when he has conquered all those so called lords and kings.He is not king of kings,untill he has conquered
all those kings.He is just next to God at the moment,untill his hour has come.Rev 19. He will come as Lord of lords,and King of kings.
Babylon, and all the kings and lords, will be destroyed in ONE DAY.He is our Lord,and King,because we have spiritually conquered babylon,by not conforming to babylon.
We are spiritually in zion;holy Jerusalem,the holy city of God.The great city babylon is the sanctuarry,of blasphemers,
and God haters; ruled by kings,and lords;still.wakeup.
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