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- October 27, 2014 at 1:22 pm#781167WakeupParticipant
GOD SPOKE HIS WORD WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURE,AND NONE SHOULD TRY TO CORRECT.
Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: AND MY GLORY WILL I NOT GIVE IT TO ANOTHER., neither my praise to graven images.
Isaiah 43:11 I,EVEN I, AM THE LORD; AND BESIDE ME THERE IS NO SAVIOUR.Isaiah 43:12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, THAT I AM GOD.
Isaiah 43:13 YEA, BEFORE THE DAY WAS,I AM HE; AND THERE IS NONE that can deliver out of my hand: I WILL WORK, and who shall let it?
Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD THE KING OF ISRAEL, AND HIS REDEEMER THE LORD OF HOST; I AM THE FIRST, AND I AM THE LAST; AND BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD. (!!!).
Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? YE ARE MY WITNESSES. IS THERE A GOD BESIDE ME? YEA, THERE IS NO GOD; I KNOW NOT ANY. (!!!)
Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I AM THE LORD THAT MAKETH ALL THINGS; THAT STRETCHET FORTH THE HEAVENS **ALONE**; THAT SPREADETH ABROAD THE EARTH **BY MYSELF**; (!!!)
Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and THERE IS NONE ELSE, THERE IS NO GOD BESIDE ME: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that THERE IS NONE BESIDE ME. I am the LORD, and THERE IS NONE ELSE. (!!!).
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS.
Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I AM GOD, AND THERE IS NONE ELSE; I AM GOD, AND THERE IS NONE ELSE LIKE ME. (!!!).
IF GOD IS ALONE; AND THERE IS NONE ELSE. THEN WHO IS THIS?
Revelation 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they **WHICH ARE CALLED UNTO THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB**. And he saith unto me, ***THESE ARE THE TRUE SAYINGS OF GOD***.
Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I WILL SHOW THEE THE BRIDE, THE LAMB’S WIFE. (WHAT)??
Revelation 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles OF THE LAMB.(WHAT)??
Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: **FOR THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB ARE THE TEMPLE OF IT**
(WHAT)??Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: FOR THE GLORY OF GOD DID LIGHTEN IT, AND THE LAMB IS THE LIGHT THEREOF.(WHAT)??
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written IN THE LAMB’S BOOK OF LIFE. (WHAT)??
Revelation 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne **OF GOD AND OF THE LAMB**. (WHAT)??
Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of **GOD AND OF THE LAMB** shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: (WHAT)??
ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED, WITH HONESTY; WITHOUT ANY CHARMING COLOURFUL WORDS.
Shalom.
wakeup.October 28, 2014 at 4:42 am#781197GeneBalthropParticipantWakeup …You said, “then what does this mean”, well what ever it means, it can not contradict what God himself said about himself in Isaiah, now can it? Paul said the BEREANS were more noble then those in Thesolonica because they searched the scriptures to see if what they were being told were true or not.
What scriptures was he talking about?, Was it not the old testament because the new testament had not even been written at that time, so we should favor the old testement as most accurate also. Now if you truly do that then you will know that there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD. IMO, know matter what false teachers say.
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
October 28, 2014 at 9:25 pm#781222WakeupParticipantHi Gene.
You are not the only one to believe in one God; many do.
But the knowledge stops there.
Many can not understand why God said he is alone, and created all things by Him self; and for himself
Then sais all things were created by His Son; and for his son, and who is the Son?
I am waiting for anyone to explain. So far none has come forward.
They have discussed God and his Son with no end. Still going on now. still no true answer. Still digging into many books.
Shalom.
wakeup.
October 28, 2014 at 10:31 pm#781223Ed JParticipantThen sais all things were created by His Son; and for his son, and who is the Son?
Where does it say that?
October 30, 2014 at 2:58 am#781281journey42ParticipantEd
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
October 30, 2014 at 5:35 am#781286Ed JParticipantHi Journey42,
Sorry, but that verse is about God, not Jesus.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODOctober 30, 2014 at 5:38 am#781287Ed JParticipantCompare Col.1:16 with Rev 4:11
“Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. (Rev 4:11)
October 30, 2014 at 9:20 am#781289kerwinParticipantWakeup,
I have no idea what your point is.
October 30, 2014 at 12:19 pm#781292WakeupParticipantHi Kerwin.
I know, and you are not alone.
wakeup.
October 30, 2014 at 1:10 pm#781295Ed JParticipantHi Kerwin,
I guess his point is: Wakeup sees giving us his views as an explanation rather than a correction of Scripture.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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”Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” – JEHOVAH GODOctober 30, 2014 at 8:29 pm#781310carmelParticipantONLY ONE TRUE GOD.
Gene,
THE FACT IS THAT SCRIPTURES NEVER GAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION OF:
GOD, AND WHAT GOD IS? EXCEPT THAT HE IS A UNIQUE SPIRIT!
AND HE SENT DOWN HIS SON, ON EARTH, TO ESTABLISH HIM AS:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
SO NOT JUST GOD!
SINCE HE WAS AS SUCH FOR NO USE!
CONFIRMED HEREUNDER:
Ezekiel 37:27 And I will make a covenant of peace with them, THROUGH JESUS CHRIST it shall be an everlasting covenant with them : and I will establish them, CHRISTIANS and will multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for ever. “THE WORD” IN CHRISTIAN’S SOULS27And my tabernacle “THE WORD” shall be with them: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jeremiah:32:27 Behold I am the Lord the God of all flesh: IN JESUS CHRIST shall any thing be hard for me?
41And I will rejoice over them, when I shall do them good: and I will plant them in this land in truth,
with my whole heart, and with all my soul.
BOTH IN JESUS CHRIST
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
October 30, 2014 at 8:34 pm#781311journey42ParticipantHi Journey42,
Sorry, but that verse is about God, not Jesus.
It’s speaking of Jesus here Ed, he is the image of God. The Word that was made flesh. Jesus has the preeminence over everything.
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Colossians 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;Ephesians 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
October 30, 2014 at 8:37 pm#781312journey42ParticipantI’m understanding now why Wakeup doesn’t answer most of the time.
He is extremely flabberghasted with some replies.October 30, 2014 at 9:52 pm#781316kerwinParticipantWakeup,
I am not sure what you mean by written in stone. The sum of God’s Law is love your neighbor as yourself and that never changes.
Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: AND MY GLORY WILL I NOT GIVE IT TO ANOTHER., neither my praise to graven images.
Maybe trinitarians find a different interpretation than this than I do but that testifies to either the different spirits we listen to or that God has a different message to pass on to us.
Since you choose not to make yourself understood there is other conversations for me to join.
November 1, 2014 at 9:26 am#781356carmelParticipantIt’s speaking of Jesus here Ed, he is the image of God. The Word that was made flesh. Jesus has the preeminence over everything.
Journey42,
WELL SAID!
PERMIT ME TO ADD MORE TRUTH: BUT NOT FOR THE BLIND!
Hebrews: 1:8 In these days hath spoken to us by his Son,
whom he hath appointed heir of all things, Jesus Christ inherited the title of: THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, HE ESTABLISHED IT THROUGH HIS OWN BLOOD, AND IN DOING SO HE RECREATED ALL THE ENTIRE CREATION AND BECAME:
THE FATHER OF IT, THEREFORE THE ENTIRE CREATION ,FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME, BECAME OFFICIALLY:CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH GOD ETERNALLY!
CONFIRMED IN: ISAIAH 9:6 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, OK? NOT A SON IS BORN TO US BUT A CHILD, INCORPORATED BOTH MALE AND FEMALE!
and a son is given to us,
OBVIOUS GOD NEVER HAD DAUGHTERS YET, ONLY THROUGH JESUS HE OWNS OFFICIALLY FEMALES, THE FIRST ONE MARY
and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty,
the Father of the world to come,……
THE FATHER OF THE PURIFIED SOULS’ PROCESS THROUGH THE WORLD
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
November 1, 2014 at 9:46 am#781358carmelParticipantJourney42,
MORE ON HEBREWS :
by whom also he made the world. BY “THE WORD” THE TRIUNE MEDIATOR CREATOR GOD! Rev.13:8………. slain from the beginning of the world.
3Who being the brightness of his glory, THE BRIGHTNESS OF
THE FATHER!
and
the figure of his substance THE FATHER’S SUBSTANCE!,
THE SON
and
upholding all things by the word of his power, UPHOLDING ALL BY THE POWER OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT
making purgation of sins, sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high.
MANIFESTING FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME ALL OVER THE UNIVERSES THAT HE IS:
THE ONLY TANGIBLE TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST! ETERNALLY!
But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity:
therefore God, thy God,
hath anointed GLORIFIED thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
10 And: Thou in the beginning,GENESIS 1:1 O Lord, didst found the earth: and the works of thy hands are the heavens.
11 They shall perish, but thou shalt continue: NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT HE DIED and they shall all grow old as a garment.
12 And as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: ON THE CROSS THROUGH HIS BLOOD but thou art the selfsame, and thy years shall not fail. NEVER LOST GOD’S DIVINITY, EVEN IN HIS TOMB, HE CONTINUED HIS SPIRITUAL DIVINE PROCESS!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
November 1, 2014 at 2:18 pm#781380journey42ParticipantCarmel
THE SON
and
upholding all things by the word of his power, UPHOLDING ALL BY THE POWER OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT
All things were upheld by “The Word” would be more accurate.
Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
The emphasis, is always on the Word, not the holy spirit.
The Word,
The Word,
The Word.God created everything through “his Word”. He made the world through “his Word”,
he speaks, and it is done through “his Word”,
He sent “his Word” into the world, and that same “Word” that made everything, became flesh.
That same “Word” gives life
because we come to him by “his Word”
Jesus gave light through “The Word”
Jesus was that light, he was “The Word”
Truth is in “The Word”
“The Word” cannot be broken, it is recorded for us now, as solid proof.
We have to read “his Word”, believe in “his Word”, learn by his “Word”,
eat “his Word”, have “his Word” inside us.
so meditate on “his Word”, because “his Word” teaches us,
not someone else’s word,
In “his Word” is life, “his Word” guides us, reproves us, changes us, will resurrect us.
So become one with “his Word” because the holy spirit is “in the Word”, the spirit of truth.
Focus on “The Word”, because where ever the Word is, the holy spirit is present, not only to guide, but to testify if we are in agreeance, or against.Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God , so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Now the body of Christ is framed by that “same Word”, that framed the worlds,….and individually our spirit is built upon “the Word”, and “The Word” is the foundation of everything.
November 1, 2014 at 8:34 pm#781387carmelParticipantAll things were upheld by “The Word” would be more accurate.
Journey42,
SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR:upholding all things by the word of his power,
NOT BY THE POWER OF HIS WORD!
BY THE WORD OF HIS POWER! OBVIOUS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
BY THE WORD OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE FATHER’S SPIRIT!
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE POWER OF GOD
THE WORD IS THE WISDOM OF GOD! THE SON!
PAUL CONFIRMED THIS IN:
Corinthians 1:1:23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness: 24But unto them that are called, both Jews and Greeks,
Christ the power of God, THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS’SOUL
and the wisdom of God. THE WORD, WHICH WAS MADE FLESH, THE FLESH BODY OF JESUS
SO SINCE PAUL CONFIRMED THAT JESUS, IS:
BOTH THE POWER AND WISDOM OF GOD,
IT IS DECLARED IN THE TRUTH THAT JESUS’FLESH BODY AND HIS SOUL, THE HOLY SPIRIT,
WHO CONCEIVED HIM, BUILT HIM, IN MARY’S WOMB AS A SPIRIT FIRST, THEN CAME OUT IN FLESH AND BLOOD,!
AFTER RESURRECTION BECAME ONE DIVINE BEING, WALKED ON EARTH FOR FORTY DAYS, AND MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS:
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST FOR THE GLORY OF THE FATHER!
SO GOD ALMIGHTY WALKED ON EARTH AS A HUMAN BEING IN:
JESUS CHRIST
CONFIRMED IN JOHN 17:3
Now this is eternal life That they may know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
OK?
SO I REPEAT:
JESUS CHRIST , NOT JESUS ONLY, LIKE HE WALKED ON EARTH AS A CARRIER BEFORE HIS DEATH! OK?
WALKED ON EARTH TO RESPECT THE ABOVE SCRIPTURES, AND MANIFESTED IT!
IN THE TRUTH
THAT’S WHY
THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST
FOR THE SIMPLE FACT REASON THAT HE ONLY HE PROVED THAT HE WAS GODMAN GOD IN FLESH!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
November 1, 2014 at 9:04 pm#781388carmelParticipantJourney 42,
“THE WORD” THE SON, WAS IN FULL POWER OF GOD!
SO
“THE WORD” WAS FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD
” THE WORD” ON ITS OWN WAS NOT SUFFICIENT!
IT HAD TO HAVE THE FULL POWER
Hebrews 4:For the word of God is living and effectual, and more piercing than any two edged sword; and reaching unto the division of the
soul and the spirit, THE ELEMENTS RELATED TO THE HOLY SPIRIT THE WORK DONE BY THE HOLY SPIRIT!
of the joints also and the marrow, THE ELEMENTS RELATED TO THE FLESH THE WORD THE WORK DONE BY THE SON! THE FIGURE OF THE SUBSTANCE OF THE FATHER’S HE DIED AND POURED HIS BLOOD ON EARTH! HE IS THE SACRIFICE!
THE REASON THAT THE FATHER ANOINTED HIM AND UNITED HIM WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, HIS SOUL!
WHEN JESUS WAS BORN, WITHIN HIM HE HAD THE HOLY SPIRIT IN FULL, SINCE HE BUILT HIM! THEREFORE HE BECAME HIS SOUL THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT, THROUGH JESUS’ LIFE ON EARTH IN FLESH AND BLOOD,
WOULD ACQUIRE ALL HUMAN SANCTIFIED ATTRIBUTES AND EVENTUALLY PASSED THEM ONTO THE FATHER WHEN JESUS CHRIST WENT TO THE FATHER, AND THEN THE FATHER SENT THE HOLY SPIRIT IN THE GLORY OF JESUS CHRIST ONTO THE APOSTLES,
THIS IS ALSO CONFIRMED BY JESUS CHRIST WHEN HE HIMSELF PASSED ONTO THEM THE HOLY SPIRIT HIS OWN, SINCE THEN, HE WAS JUST BEING UNIFIED, AND BECAME ONE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHEN HE ENTERED IN THE LOCKED ROOM!
Jesus also made it clear that he, THE WORD, is not alone in the process in:
John 4:And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life everlasting: that both he that soweth, and he that reapeth, may rejoice together. 37For in this is the saying true: That it is one man that soweth, and it is another that reapeth.
THE ABOVE IS A REFERENCE TO BOTH THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HIMSELF! “THE WORD”
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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