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    kerwin
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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2013,08:48)

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    Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

    The answer is in the question though no one in this hypothetical conversation  saw it.

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    Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill

    Bad things proof the hearts of men.

    God is striving to heal the ill spirits of man.


    K

    you miss understood the story ,I guess

    read it again


    T and all,

    The hypothetical seems to be designed to advance the cause of blind faith.

    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    My soul knows God exists and is Loving and instructs and orders me to be Loving.  I was created knowing them though they were concealed by my corrupt spirit and required God to refine me to obtain.

    This is a conversation about God and not about me.


    K

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    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    could explain this to me ,???


    T,

    1) The evidence supporting inspired faith is the inspiration of God.

    2) The evidence supporting blind faith is none.

    In the second case you do not test the spirit of what you believe and teach.
    In the first case you are compelled to until you get fed.

    #335652
    kerwin
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    Quote (david @ Feb. 14 2013,09:01)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2013,12:48)

    Quote (david @ Feb. 13 2013,17:27)
    If you are trying to reveal a great truth, you should not base it on a lie.  

    (Every time I've heard this story, the person passing it on believed it was Einstein.  It doesn't help credibility if you just accept what you want to be true and repeat it without question)


    Sure it doesn't help david, but men tend to judge by the outward appearance while God looks at the heart. How many were able to read that and see the truth in the words, and how many jumped on the fact that Einstein didn't write it and thus debunked what was written. My guess is that most do the latter.

    As I said before, even if Ed J wrote that, I would respect it just for the message alone.


    No one!!!  No one!!!!   Virtually no one ever does.   I've heard this story a few times.   People don't question it because they want it to be Einstein.   We could probably discuss this on here for a year and no one would question it except for stu.  (And me, because it doesn't make sense and seems to good to be true)

    The first couple times I heard it, even I didn't think about Einstein being questionable.


    David,

    I had doubts about it immediately as who was there to dictate the conversation.

    I like to check claims like that up but you did that for me.

    It is a conversation starter.

    #335675
    theodorej
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    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2013,19:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2013,08:48)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2013,01:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 13 2013,21:29)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 13 2013,11:28)
    To  all,

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    Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

    The answer is in the question though no one in this hypothetical conversation  saw it.

    Quote
    Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill

    Bad things proof the hearts of men.

    God is striving to heal the ill spirits of man.


    K

    you miss understood the story ,I guess

    read it again


    T and all,

    The hypothetical seems to be designed to advance the cause of blind faith.

    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    My soul knows God exists and is Loving and instructs and orders me to be Loving.  I was created knowing them though they were concealed by my corrupt spirit and required God to refine me to obtain.

    This is a conversation about God and not about me.


    K

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    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    could explain this to me ,???


    T,

    1) The evidence supporting inspired faith is the inspiration of God.

    2) The evidence supporting blind faith is none.

    In the second case you do not test the spirit of what you believe and teach.
    In the first case you are compelled to until you get fed.


    Kerwin …. Belief in things unseen with the hope for things to come… sounds pretty blind to me…

    #335688
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2013,14:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2013,08:48)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2013,01:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 13 2013,21:29)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 13 2013,11:28)
    To  all,

    Quote
    Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

    The answer is in the question though no one in this hypothetical conversation  saw it.

    Quote
    Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill

    Bad things proof the hearts of men.

    God is striving to heal the ill spirits of man.


    K

    you miss understood the story ,I guess

    read it again


    T and all,

    The hypothetical seems to be designed to advance the cause of blind faith.

    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    My soul knows God exists and is Loving and instructs and orders me to be Loving.  I was created knowing them though they were concealed by my corrupt spirit and required God to refine me to obtain.

    This is a conversation about God and not about me.


    K

    Quote
    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    could explain this to me ,???


    T,

    1) The evidence supporting inspired faith is the inspiration of God.

    2) The evidence supporting blind faith is none.

    In the second case you do not test the spirit of what you believe and teach.
    In the first case you are compelled to until you get fed.


    K

    so what you are saying is that you need knowledge of the one you serve right ???

    #335805
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2013,23:48)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2013,14:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2013,08:48)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2013,01:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 13 2013,21:29)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 13 2013,11:28)
    To  all,

    Quote
    Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

    The answer is in the question though no one in this hypothetical conversation  saw it.

    Quote
    Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill

    Bad things proof the hearts of men.

    God is striving to heal the ill spirits of man.


    K

    you miss understood the story ,I guess

    read it again


    T and all,

    The hypothetical seems to be designed to advance the cause of blind faith.

    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    My soul knows God exists and is Loving and instructs and orders me to be Loving.  I was created knowing them though they were concealed by my corrupt spirit and required God to refine me to obtain.

    This is a conversation about God and not about me.


    K

    Quote
    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    could explain this to me ,???


    T,

    1) The evidence supporting inspired faith is the inspiration of God.

    2) The evidence supporting blind faith is none.

    In the second case you do not test the spirit of what you believe and teach.
    In the first case you are compelled to until you get fed.


    K

    so what you are saying is that you need knowledge of the one you serve right ???


    T,

    Yes!

    #335806
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ Feb. 14 2013,20:31)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2013,19:58)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 14 2013,08:48)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 14 2013,01:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 13 2013,21:29)

    Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 13 2013,11:28)
    To  all,

    Quote
    Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

    The answer is in the question though no one in this hypothetical conversation  saw it.

    Quote
    Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill

    Bad things proof the hearts of men.

    God is striving to heal the ill spirits of man.


    K

    you miss understood the story ,I guess

    read it again


    T and all,

    The hypothetical seems to be designed to advance the cause of blind faith.

    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    My soul knows God exists and is Loving and instructs and orders me to be Loving.  I was created knowing them though they were concealed by my corrupt spirit and required God to refine me to obtain.

    This is a conversation about God and not about me.


    K

    Quote
    I instead believe in inspired faith.

    could explain this to me ,???


    T,

    1) The evidence supporting inspired faith is the inspiration of God.

    2) The evidence supporting blind faith is none.

    In the second case you do not test the spirit of what you believe and teach.
    In the first case you are compelled to until you get fed.


    Kerwin …. Belief in things unseen with the hope for things to come… sounds pretty blind to me…


    theodorej,

    Timothy was instructed to watch his life and doctrine.

    The Bereans were commented for testing the spirit of Paul's words.

    These are not the actions of those whose faith is blind even though they believe in things unseen and hope for things to come.

    The pharisees had blind faith.

    #335812
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ Feb. 15 2013,04:31)
    Kerwin …. Belief in things unseen with the hope for things to come… sounds pretty blind to me…


    Sight happens in the mind. The eyes take in certain wavelengths and the brain process it into an image for your mind to comprehend. Thus it is really the mind that sees.

    And other forms of sight from the mind are insight, hindsight, and foresight.

    It is the mind that either sees or is blind.

    Just because you cannot see something doesn't mean you are blind. Even a physically blind person can have foresight and he can still navigate his way down the street with the help of a stick.

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