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  • #235282
    Ed J
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 03 2011,15:06)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 03 2011,08:18)
    Hi Gene,

    The Google translation (of the Greek) is a bit more accurate; ain't it?

                   Through Jesus' [†] crucifixion
    The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. (Rev.13:8)


    Hey Ed,

    Google translate Rev 13:8 just for kicks.  I uninstalled Chrome, and with it my translator.  :)

    Btw, did you ever check out the NETNotes on Rev 13:8?

    mike


    Hi Mike,

    Explain why would I want to check out what “the NETNotes” says about anything?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #235283
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2011,04:50)
    edj

    what is your religion ??

    Pierre


    Hi Pierre,

    What do you mean by 'religion'?

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus!
    eD j (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #235284
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2011,04:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,11:24)

    Hi Gene,

    The bible indicates we all pre-existed.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    were is that statement written in the scriptures ??

    i know it is in EDJ TRANSLATION,right ?

    Pierre


    Hi Pierre,

    Thank you very much for your concern in this matter!
    2Tm.1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling,
    not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace,
    which was given [[[us]]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)

               “The Word”(HolySpirit) in us! (Eph.4:4-6)

    John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness (by the HolySpirit),
    because [[[ye]]] have been with me from the beginning.
    Acts 12:24 But “The word” of God grew and multiplied.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    PS> All Scripture references are the “AKJV Bible”(74); unless otherwise stated.

    #235285
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 04 2011,07:47)
    Ed!

    I also want to know why go to goggle?  Is the Bible all of a sudden not good enough?  That makes me rather sad.  

    Peace Irene


    Hi Irene,

                 The Bible(63)AKJV Bible(74)

    What makes you sad; my rejecting of man's bias?
    The newer translations are littered with man's bias,
    And Google translates The Bible without bias by man.
    That's why I Post Google instead of other translations.

                              God's Signature

    יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
    YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
    Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
    HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
    God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)                  

                                 YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org   …(Eccl.9:12-16)

    #235288
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,13:24)
    Hi Mike,

    Explain why would I want to check out what “the NETNotes” says about anything?


    Bye Ed.

    #235289
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,14:00)

    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 04 2011,07:47)
    Ed!

    I also want to know why go to goggle?  Is the Bible all of a sudden not good enough?  That makes me rather sad.  

    Peace Irene


    Hi Irene,

                 The Bible(63)AKJV Bible(74)

    What makes you sad; my rejecting of man's bias?
    The newer translations are littered with man's bias,
    And Google translates The Bible without bias by man.
    That's why I Post Google instead of other translations.

                              God's Signature

    יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
    YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
    Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
    HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
    God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)                  

                                 YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org   …(Eccl.9:12-16)


    Ed What makes me sad that you believe we all preexisted, with no Scripture showing that it is true…..I don't go by mans of anything, and don't misrepresent me…..I go by Scriptures not what you say or google or any men….I don't care either what you believe….What I do care about is the truth……Peace Irene

    #235296
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,20:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2011,04:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,11:24)

    Hi Gene,

    The bible indicates we all pre-existed.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    were is that statement written in the scriptures ??

    i know it is in EDJ TRANSLATION,right ?

    Pierre


    Hi Pierre,

    Thank you very much for your concern in this matter!
    2Tm.1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling,
    not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace,
    which was given [[[us]]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)

               “The Word”(HolySpirit) in us! (Eph.4:4-6)

    John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness (by the HolySpirit),
    because [[[ye]]] have been with me from the beginning.
    Acts 12:24 But “The word” of God grew and multiplied.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    PS> All Scripture references are the “AKJV Bible”(74); unless otherwise stated.


    edj

    do you read the scriptures you post to others??

    2Ti 1:9 who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,

    this is Paul explanation to and for the heavenly call (144k)and who ever believed ,

    that it was plan by God to go the way it went to reconciliate all things trough Christ by grace ,God s plan is were you should look ,

    this would help you if you research it like gold,

    Pierre

    #235297
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,21:00)

    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 04 2011,07:47)
    Ed!

    I also want to know why go to goggle?  Is the Bible all of a sudden not good enough?  That makes me rather sad.  

    Peace Irene


    Hi Irene,

                 The Bible(63)AKJV Bible(74)

    What makes you sad; my rejecting of man's bias?
    The newer translations are littered with man's bias,
    And Google translates The Bible without bias by man.
    That's why I Post Google instead of other translations.

                              God's Signature

    יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
    YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
    Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
    HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
    God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)                  

                                 YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org   …(Eccl.9:12-16)


    edj

    you know you are on a trip were no one understand you,

    Pierre

    #235307
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 04 2011,14:14)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,13:24)
    Hi Mike,

    Explain why would I want to check out what “the NETNotes” says about anything?


    Bye Ed.


    Hello Mike.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #235308
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 04 2011,14:15)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,14:00)

    Quote (Baker @ Feb. 04 2011,07:47)
    Ed!

    I also want to know why go to goggle?  Is the Bible all of a sudden not good enough?  That makes me rather sad.  

    Peace Irene


    Hi Irene,

                 The Bible(63)AKJV Bible(74)

    What makes you sad; my rejecting of man's bias?
    The newer translations are littered with man's bias,
    And Google translates The Bible without bias by man.
    That's why I Post Google instead of other translations.

                              God's Signature

    יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
    YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
    Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
    HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
    God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)                  

                                 YHVH is GOD=117
    PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
    the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org   …(Eccl.9:12-16)


    Ed  What makes me sad that you believe we all preexisted, with no Scripture showing that it is true…..I don't go by mans of anything, and don't misrepresent me…..I go by Scriptures not what you say or google or any men….I don't care either what you believe….What I do care about is the truth……Peace Irene


    Hi Irene,

    2Tm.1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling,
    not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace,
    which was given [[[us]]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)

               “The Word”(HolySpirit) in us! (Eph.4:4-6)

    John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness (by the HolySpirit),
    because [[[ye]]] have been with me from the beginning.
    Acts 12:24 But “The word” of God grew and multiplied.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #235309
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2011,15:16)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,20:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 04 2011,04:52)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,11:24)

    Hi Gene,

    The bible indicates we all pre-existed.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    were is that statement written in the scriptures ??

    i know it is in EDJ TRANSLATION,right ?

    Pierre


    Hi Pierre,

    Thank you very much for your concern in this matter!
    2Tm.1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling,
    not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace,
    which was given [[[us]]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)

               “The Word”(HolySpirit) in us! (Eph.4:4-6)

    John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness (by the HolySpirit),
    because [[[ye]]] have been with me from the beginning.
    Acts 12:24 But “The word” of God grew and multiplied.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    PS> All Scripture references are the “AKJV Bible”(74); unless otherwise stated.


    edj

    do you read the scriptures you post to others??

    2Ti 1:9 who has saved us and called us to a holy life—not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time,

    this is Paul explanation to and for the heavenly call (144k)and who ever believed ,

    that it was plan by God to go the way it went to reconciliate all things trough Christ by grace ,God s plan is were you should look ,

    this would help you if you research it like gold,

    Pierre


    Hi Pierre,

    Rev.7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed:
    and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four
    thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

                AKJV Bible(74)  =  The Key(74)

    (Rev.7:4) “An hundred and forty and four thousand”=373(74th Prime number). (Click Here / And Here)
             1Thess.5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

                            God's Signature

    יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)   …(Rev.3:7) [37+26=74]
    YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
    Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
    HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
    God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)
                   

    God bless
    eD J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #235336
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    EDJ……….WE existed in the Plan and Will of GOD before the foundations of the earth Just as Jesus also existed in that plan and will of GOD before the foundation of the earth also. THEY SIMPLE CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT EDJ. Every thing was in the plan and foreknowledge of GOD, He knows the end from the beginning. We and Jesus are the outcome of GOD fore knowledge. I tell you there is a blindness here where some can't even understand simple things, but are caught up in MYSTERY RELIGION and can't seem to shake it off. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………….gene

    #235344
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 05 2011,09:27)
    EDJ……….WE existed in the Plan and Will of GOD before the foundations of the earth Just as Jesus also existed in that plan and will of GOD before the foundation of the earth also. THEY SIMPLE CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT EDJ. Every thing was in the plan and foreknowledge of GOD, He knows the end from the beginning. We and Jesus are the outcome of GOD fore  knowledge. I tell you there is a blindness here where some can't even understand simple things, but are caught up in MYSTERY RELIGION and can't seem to shake it off. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………….gene


    gene and edj

    you both have no idea of Gods plan,

    you just bla,bla,

    tell us what the plan was ,his,and will be???

    let see your bible true spirit gift.

    Pierre

    #235390
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,13:24)

    Hi Mike,

    Explain why would I want to check out what “the NETNotes” says about anything?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Revelation 13:8 NET ©
    and all those who live on the earth will worship the beast, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the book of life belonging to the Lamb who was killed.

    Footnote #2:
    Rev 13:82tn The prepositional phrase “since the foundation of the world” is traditionally translated as a modifier of the immediately preceding phrase in the Greek text, “the Lamb who was killed” (so also G. B. Caird, Revelation [HNTC], 168), but it is more likely that the phrase “since the foundation of the world” modifies the verb “written” (as translated above). Confirmation of this can be found in Rev 17:8 where the phrase “written in the book of life since the foundation of the world” occurs with no ambiguity.

    Ed, just read 17:8 and see if what they say is right.  Then ask yourself which translation makes more sense.

    mike

    #235392
    terraricca
    Participant

    Mike

    think about it why would God have all name written in a book ??

    or is it only the class of those who will be saved,what make more sense,right.

    because otherwise why is it that the grace is given??

    if the names where written then why not killing the rest and done with it ;but then all the kill ones soul would say God you did not give me a chance,right

    and the saved ones would say we are special we have been saved and inflate there mind like Satan.

    so Gods plan is more like wen he give the law to moses and tolled the Israelites obey and live.

    and this is the grace of God but with Christ sacrifice this is now possible and not before.

    so who are the ones that will be saved ;THE ONES THAT OBEY GOD S WAY TROUGH CHRIST AND HIS WORD.

    it is that simple.but not that simple to do.is it ??

    Pierre

    #235397
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Hi Pierre,

    God has written in His book only the names of the ones who WILL get everlasting life.  Some others who WERE written in that book have since been blotted out of it. (Psalm 69:28, Revelation 3:5)

    Revelation 20:15 NIV
    Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

    mike

    #235403
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2011,20:59)
    Hi Pierre,

    God has written in His book only the names of the ones who WILL get everlasting life.  Some others who WERE written in that book have since been blotted out of it. (Psalm 69:28, Revelation 3:5)

    Revelation 20:15 NIV
    Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

    mike


    Mike

    the only place in the bible there is mention of the book of live is in Revelation;;
    Rev 17:8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the( book of life) from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.
    Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the( book of life). The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
    Rev 20:15 If anyone’s name was not found written in the (book of life), he was thrown into the lake of fire.
    Rev 21:27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s (book of life.)

    so read this very carefully and understand it ,when,were,why,how.

    but this i leave for you now.

    Pierre

    #235405
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Psalm 69:28 NIV
    May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.

    #235410
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2011,21:17)
    Psalm 69:28 NIV
    May they be blotted out of the book of life and not be listed with the righteous.


    Mike

    yes you are right i mis that one ,

    but read it again,and answer ;why,were,when .
    this is part of Gods plan trough Christ……….

    Pierre

    #235412
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2011,13:34)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 04 2011,13:24)

    Hi Mike,

    Explain why would I want to check out what “the NETNotes” says about anything?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Revelation 13:8 NET ©
    and all those who live on the earth will worship the beast, everyone whose name has not been written since the foundation of the world in the book of life belonging to the Lamb who was killed.

    Footnote #2:
    Rev 13:82tn The prepositional phrase “since the foundation of the world” is traditionally translated as a modifier of the immediately preceding phrase in the Greek text, “the Lamb who was killed” (so also G. B. Caird, Revelation [HNTC], 168), but it is more likely that the phrase “since the foundation of the world” modifies the verb “written” (as translated above). Confirmation of this can be found in Rev 17:8 where the phrase “written in the book of life since the foundation of the world” occurs with no ambiguity.

    Ed, just read 17:8 and see if what they say is right.  Then ask yourself which translation makes more sense.

    mike


    Hi Mike,

    Not sure what point your trying to make? But here are the “FACTS”… (perhaps you could elaborate?)

    (Rev.13:8) whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world

    (Google) whose name is written in his book He was in the life of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world

    (Rev.17:8) whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world

    (Google) whom is written in my name on the book of life from all eternity

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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