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T8……. If you ignore the words of GOD HIMSELF,AND JESUS, you could draw that conclusion, but when you have very specifi statements in scriptures then you must conform you thinking to those scriptures, especially if the one saying them is GOD HIMSELF,AND JESUS.
1 Cor 8:5-6…..> For though there be that are called God’s, whether in heaven or in earth , (as there God’s many,and lords many) the parentheses part was add to the text it is not in the original text. Verse 6,….> but unto us there is “ONE GOD”, the Father, of whom are “ALL” things, and we are in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by or for whom are all things, and we by him.
T8 having atributes of God, as all creation has his atributes, but none of the makes another God ,big or little. The word God is not does not describe an atribute, it describes a relationship with something. And unto “us” true believers, there is “ONLY ONE TRUE GOD” and if we along with JESUS SAY THAT, then there can be “NO” other God’s big or little.
Jesus is not a God, never was nor ever will be either. Making exceptions to this! is a false teaching nearly all christianity has done this, they have bought into the biggest lie ever told. A lie which Jesus himself will abolish when he returns, it will be one of the first things he will do. All who believe in other God’s big or little are not of the truth , GOD HAS SENT UNTO THEM A DELUDING SPIRIT , 2 Ths 2. In order for them to believe “A LIE”. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene
@t8,
It may be that angels are called gods because they are a little higher than humans. It may also because they are godly. The correct meaning of a word in Hebrew seems to often be dependent on context. I have heard that both it and Koine Greek are more dependent on context than English. That can make it hard for us to understand.
Gene,
Is scripture from God? I would assume that you would be like me in believing that it is. If it is and it is written in Psalms 82 “you are gods, and all sons of the Most High” and “the god of this age (devil) has blinded the minds of unbelievers…” then are you saying God was wrong in having these things written as they were? Now I know there is only one God Yehowah Almighty, and there are none that are a god in compared to him but then why would the devil be said to be a god if he wasn’t in some capacity? It is in that way that we know there are varying definitions and degrees of “god” from the Almighty where there is but One, to angels who are gods in a different way. So if kerwin or T8 are wrong, why does the bible describe those who are not God as gods if there was not a different degree to the word god?
To any,
We can make anything our so called god. Those things have to exist either in fact or in our mind for them to become our so called god. The word god exists……and even men can be so called gods, but for the Christian there is only one true God over all those so called gods. Other so called gods do exist but only one is the true God. (One, not two or three true Gods).
Amen, miia
I think most here would totally agree to what you have said but are rather arguing about the details… whether that is edifying is another matter
Anastas,
Is scripture from God? I would assume that you would be like me in believing that it is. If it is and it is written in Psalms 82 “you are gods, and all sons of the Most High” and “the god of this age (devil) has blinded the minds of unbelievers…” then are you saying God was wrong in having these things written as they were
I do not know what you are getting at here and so can not be enlightened by the words you are sharing. Could you please rewrite them so your idea is made more clear. Thank you,
To all…….God THE FATHER plainly said, he “alone” was God, and that there were “no” other Gods, but him. He also commanded us not to make any other Gods or images of GOD’S, besides him. SO I WILL TRUST HIM AND HIS WORDS AND ALSO THE WORDS OF Jesus who in prayer said, “FOR THOU ART THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD. ” SO IF YOU BELIEVE JESUS AND GOD THE FATHER, IT SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER TO EVERYONE, THAT IS, WHO BELIEVE GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS, AND WHAT I AM, AND HAVE SAID.
THE DEVIL WANTS PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN MORE THEN ONE GOD AND IT APPEARS to have worked here.IMO
peace and love to you all and yours……………….gene
whether that is edifying is another matter
I was trying to find an old thread titled “Does it really Matter” but can’t find it…..never mind (:
Kerwin,
In short I was merely agreeing to what you had said. I wanted to show that if if the word of God describes some as gods, then they are to some capacity. We know there is only one true God so then the word god used to describe some in the bible is an example of different degrees and meanings to the word god
Gene, your understanding is no different than ours, you just choose to not even believe other ‘so called’ gods exist even if just in ones mind. In order for us to have idols or other gods, they must exist, not as real gods but as man created gods…..do you understand that? Whether we make these so called gods our own god is another thing. But ‘The Lord your God is God of gods’….
From what I understand the word god has more than one meaning.
Kerwin, yes like money can be a god, but it’s just paper.
you said:
To all…….God THE FATHER plainly said, he “alone” was God, and that there were “no” other Gods, but him. He also commanded us not to make any other Gods or images of GOD’S, besides him. SO I WILL TRUST HIM AND HIS WORDS AND ALSO THE WORDS OF Jesus who in prayer said, “FOR THOU ART THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD. ” SO IF YOU BELIEVE JESUS AND GOD THE FATHER, IT SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER TO EVERYONE, THAT IS, WHO BELIEVE GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS, AND WHAT I AM, AND HAVE SAID.
THE DEVIL WANTS PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN MORE THEN ONE GOD AND IT APPEARS to have worked here.IMO
peace and love to you all and yours……………….gene
Jehovah alone is God…Jehovah is the God of gods AND the Lord of lords. For us, there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is identified as the Lord of lords. Jehovah is both God AND Lord…not just God as you have come to believe.
The presence of Jehovah is in heaven as the God of gods, the Father, and in the Lord of lords, the Son who is seated at the Father’s right hand and the Holy Spirit who seals all believers with the promise of salvation, and is in them.
all
anything that has power OVER YOU he’s your god ; the funny thing of it , is that we make it up for ourselves
@terraricca
you said:anything that has power OVER YOU he’s your god ; the funny thing of it , is that we make it up for ourselves
Does Jesus have power OVER YOU? If so, according to what you wrote, then He is your god. Why not just admit it. Or would you say that Jesus does not have power over you. Do you have power over Jesus???
miiq,
That would be idolatry and we know God does not say his human kind is a little lower than idols. Instead he is saying that humankind is a little lower than the angels. He uses the word god to mean angels. He is not calling angels false gods.
I could say Jimmy Hendrix is a guitar god and all it means is that he is a superior player.
Anastas,
In short I was merely agreeing to what you had said. I wanted to show that if if the word of God describes some as gods, then they are to some capacity. We know there is only one true God so then the word god used to describe some in the bible is an example of different degrees and meanings to the word god
Thank you for making that clear for me.
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