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- August 25, 2020 at 4:13 pm#865656ProclaimerParticipant
People deny the divinity of Jesus Christ because they ignore that he emptied himself and became a man. They read only the parts where he was a man. So partial ignorance but perhaps serious because the Antichrist spirit denies that Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
As for the flat earth, that is almost total ignorance, but is not Antichrist, just extremely foolish.
August 26, 2020 at 2:22 am#865657GeneBalthropParticipantProclaimer……Saying Jesus came in the flesh, does not mean nor say he preexisted in any way at all, just if you make an “assumption” that it is saying that. Saying he came in the flesh was Johns way of say that he was a 100% flesh born human being. That was John’s argument against the Gonistic’s, who believed as you people do, that Jesus was only desguised as a human being but was actually a preexisting being “morphed” into a human body. how many time have I ask you people to produce a single scripture that says he “preexisted” and produce any proof of it, by showing “any activity” of his preexistence.
Taking a scripture and forcing a conclusion that is not “specificely” stated is hardly any proof . Not to even mention if what you say is true which it is not, what point would that prove about, human perfection, in the plan and will of God, it would prove nothing to take an already “perfect” being and desguise him as a human man , and have him not sin, that like a shell game a trick of somekind, why would God do that in the first place if he were wanting to demonstrate to his human creation how to exist without sin and become perfect . Common sense 101.
Proclaimer you need to investigate the teaching of the Gnostic’s, at the time of the apostle John, and better see what he was dealing with and maybe that will help you better understand.
Your teaching of God taking an a ready preexisting being and wiping out all his memory and starting him out as a human baby is pure foolishness. Why would he even think to do that, what would that add or prove to his human creation. “nothing”!
And by the way, aren’t you really denying Jesus came into his “only” true “existence” as a flesh human being, by saying he was a “preexisting” devine being of “somekind”, which you never have said what that is by the way. At least Berean says he was a God, and if that were true then he indeed would have been “devine”, but his problem is, that Jesus told us there was “only” one true God”, so it couldn’t be him, and the Jw’s say he was an Angel, but you say nothing, and yet maintain his preexistence. Which as I have just said would have proved “nothing” to mankind even if it were true. You way under estimate human beings with the Spirit of God “in” them. Jesus a real human being , second Adam showed us what GOD THE FATHER can do “in” any human being, by demonstrating it to us a a “real” human being, comming into his “only” existence “exactly as we do, if he existed as a devine being , it would have completely altered what God the Father was doing in his human creation. Again common sense 101.
Proclaimer Satan always works to make Jesus appear different then the rest of his human brothers and sisters, who side are you on?
Peace and love to you and. ……….gene
August 26, 2020 at 2:50 am#865658GeneBalthropParticipantDig4truth. …..You produce a video that BY THE WAY can be proven wrong, while thousands if not millions of proofs show the earth is round, WHICH BY THE WAY YOU HAVEN’T PROVED WRONG. go and view the pictures 24/ 7 comming from the space station. It is really true Dig4truth those are true pictures comming from it .
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
August 26, 2020 at 4:10 am#865661Dig4truthParticipantWell then Gene all you need to do is prove it wrong.
lets see it!
August 26, 2020 at 4:28 am#865662BereanParticipantGene
You
“At least Berean he was a God, and if that were true then he indeed would have been “devine”, but his problem is, that Jesus told us there was “only” one true God”, so it couldn’t be him, …”
Me
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Whithout HIM
HIM = JESUS CHRIST NAMED BY JOHN
“THE WORD” IN REVELATION “THE WORD OF GOD”
August 27, 2020 at 11:31 pm#865677Dig4truthParticipantJohn 17:4 I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
Isa 42:8 I am the Lord, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another, Nor My praise to graven images.
August 28, 2020 at 10:58 pm#865691Dig4truthParticipantGene, still waiting on that “proof”.
September 4, 2020 at 9:56 am#865778Dig4truthParticipantGene? T8? What’s up guys?
September 6, 2020 at 6:55 pm#865822ProclaimerParticipantScience
September 6, 2020 at 9:34 pm#865824ProclaimerParticipantDiggles. You need to at least try and disprove your own theory if you are serious about believing and teaching the truth. If you do not do that, you will deceive yourself.
September 7, 2020 at 1:18 am#865839Dig4truthParticipantFunny how YOU haven’t tried to disprove it! Still waiting though.
September 7, 2020 at 11:42 am#865851ProclaimerParticipantFunny how YOU haven’t put up the stats and tried to disprove it too! Still waiting though.
You also need to help yourself in order to be helped.
We can work on that video together.
Being lazy doesn’t help or encourage investigation.
September 7, 2020 at 7:20 pm#865861ProclaimerParticipantFlat Mars
I wonder if there are any flat earthers on that planet arguing that it is a flat disk. I mean look at that distant mountain that would be impossible to see on a globe right.
September 7, 2020 at 7:23 pm#865862ProclaimerParticipantFor Dig.
Is Mars flat?
September 7, 2020 at 9:10 pm#865864ProclaimerParticipantSatellites exist
Flatties of course deny the existence of satellites.
Anyway, while observing the centre of the Milky Way and a lone satellite tonight, all of a sudden Starlink appeared and crossed the night sky. I had enough time to go back into the house and get my wife and child to come out and observe it too. I got my video camera after that, but it was over by the time I turned the camera on. So I found this footage instead.
September 7, 2020 at 11:29 pm#865866Dig4truthParticipantT8, you’re all over the board except for one important thing, you haven’t tried to debunk the video.
You have tried to get me to argue with myself, something that still doesn’t make sense to me. If I didn’t think the video has validity I wouldn’t have posted it. Then you bring up any wild accusation that you think can help you stall so you don’t have to address the video. But what is probably the most cringe worthy part of this is that you believe that no one notices. THEY DO!
So time is up, either you keep your word like any believer in Messiah should or you can figure out the alternative. I have seen plenty of other posts you have made elsewhere so I know you have time to play around so therefore you have time for this video as well and I suspect you have more than plenty of time. So what’s the deal? Why won’t you keep your word and address the video?
September 8, 2020 at 8:27 am#865886ProclaimerParticipantI want you to participate in the investigation. You can start by telling me the stats.
Easy come easy go is what I have observed here. If you put in some work, then I know your serious.
If you are not interested in challenging yourself, then you do not deserve the truth on a plate.
Seek and you will find was written for a reason. God does not give pearls to swine right?
Do not reply solely on others to search for truth.
September 8, 2020 at 10:03 am#865890Dig4truthParticipantFor the last time I’m not doing your job for you. Are you lazy or what? It’s an 11 min. video that is nothing but the stats. What part of this aren’t you getting?
I have participated, I offered a video to discuss and you agreed to discuss it. Now you are going back on your word. Is that clear enough? Stop being a child about this and admit defeat! Otherwise you wouldn’t be resisting so hard! Last chance before I write you off as someone that doesn’t tell the truth and then I’m done with you.
September 8, 2020 at 1:23 pm#865891ProclaimerParticipantIt’s an 11 min. video that is nothing but the stats. What part of this aren’t you getting?
Your’e not giving me the stats. If it is nothing but stats, then what are the basic stats? You don’t have to give me all the stats. Just the distance, height, and height of observer with say the most compelling example.
September 8, 2020 at 1:29 pm#865892ProclaimerParticipantT8, you’re all over the board except for one important thing, you haven’t tried to debunk the video.
Important? Lol. No it isn’t important. It is as important as the Hollow Earth or lizard shape shifters. Really. That is how important.
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